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Question of the Day: What Are Your TWO Favorite Pistol Calibers?

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“A gun that fits the hand and the biggest caliber that the shooter can manage are what matters, not the brand or caliber chosen,” NRA Instructor Don McDougall concludes in his ammoland.com article  First Time Gun Owners Guide to Choosing a Pistol Caliber. Good advice! I reckon new shooters should start with .22, move on to 9mm, then figure out what gun and caliber they prefer. My favorite caliber is . . .

9mm, for its controllability, price and youcanloadloadsability. After that I love me some .45, for the way the big boy bullet feels when you shoot it and its ability to drop an NFL linebacker mid-charge (metaphorically speaking and not during the national anthem). What are your TWO favorite pistol calibers and why?

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. Gad, that U. of Houston public media article was stupid. Broken from the very start.

    Relying entirely on a coroner’s reports… The coroner only sees the dead, not the living. If you want to know how many people were killed and by what means, sure, talk to the coroner. It seems that law-abiding citizens don’t often kill people (surprise!…not).

    But how the hell would the coroner know how many people were NOT killed because they had a gun?

    Judging only by the words on the page, I’m not sure if the writer was an idiot or just presenting pseudo-factual drivel to a readership he presumes is too stupid to think for itself.

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    • The only way to know how many people were NOT killed because they had a gun would be to review the reports of persons treated for gunshot woulds who didn’t die, who shot them, why they were shot, and whether or not they were prosecuted and CONVICTED of a crime after the shooting.

      And even that leaves out all the incidents where simply producing the weapon without firing resolved the situation.

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        • I call it Seriously Compensating.
          If my .44 magnum Vaquero can’t solve my handgun needs then I should have brought a rifle.
          I’m right there with you with the .327 – I really hope it takes off… lots of potential there.
          🤠

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        • Yea, I’ve said for a long time that if a .44 won’t do the job you need a butt stock.

          That doesn’t keep an X frame off my wish list though. Gotta be one Smith on the list.

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  2. 45 Auto and 357 Magnum. Thank goodness for two choices, cause I can only decide which one I like more when I’m shooting or reloading it.

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    • Couldn’t have said it better. Love .45 and 10mm (I wonder if anyone makes dastardly .10mm, the smallest, most lethal cartridge around) and long to try a .9mm…

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  3. I like .22 LR and 9 mm but I’m thinking about switching to .9 mm for concealability and inexpensive reloading. Anybody know where I can find used .9 mm brass? And I’m having trouble locating primers.

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    • ” Anybody know where I can find used .9 mm brass?”

      At most pistol ranges.

      Bring a Hasting’s triplet jewler’s loupe to find it…

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  4. .45 ACP, 9mm, and .45 Colt.
    9mm great for plinking and the wife’s carry piece.
    .45 ACP cause screw those damn japs and krauts! Also for those strange bumps in the night.
    .45 Colt cause Sam Colt said so! Also just in case those damn Cherokee get any funny ideas.

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  5. I can’t rightly say. I love .22, 5.7, .40, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and 45 Long Colt. It’d be like asking which of my children I want to keep. Not fair!

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  6. “Question of the Day: What Are Your TWO Favorite Pistol Calibers?”

    .45ACP and .357 Magnum…
    1) Both readily available in a variety of loads…
    2) Both heavy hitters…
    3) I carry both(at the same time)…

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  7. I’m late to this thread, but here’s my relatively recent history/impression with both Marlin and Henry…..

    Almost exactly a year ago (on 12/15/16, to be exact), I took delivery of a brand new Marlin 336BL. This rifle has a laminate stock, an 18.5” barrel with a 6 round magazine tube, and a big loop lever. Purpose: general use truck gun/hunting rifle when some future politician gets a wild hair up his/her ass, and .308 Winchester to feed my two .308 bolt guns and my SCAR 17S gets hard to find again. (I have since rectified the problem my throwing dollars at bulk buys, and I have enough .308 to last me for a considerable while now.)

    During the last such .308 famine, I saw lots and lots of .30/30 ammunition sitting on store shelves all by its lonesome. Obviously, most “contemporary” Americans have forgotten that .30/30 is a great cartridge that falls ballisticaly somewhere between .308 and 7.62×39, and it is a viable choice for either general purpose/hunting use, or even as a “something arises” cartridge. It has probably killed more white tails than either .30-‘06 or .308. It has taken black/brown bear, elk, and almost any size game you care to mention less fearsome than an Alaskan Brown or Polar Bear. Additionally (concerning “something arises”), although it is a myth that the .30-30 design started life as a black powder cartridge, it can be used with black powder if necessary, unlike most more modern bottleneck cased cartridges, while still retaining sufficient lethality. So I thought it would be good to pick me up a .30-30 lever action rifle.

    I chose the BL model because I wanted the 18” barrel and the big loop. I wanted the big loop to make the rifle easier to use with gloves on. Yes, you can add a big loop yourself, but probably not as cheaply as the factory can. I wanted the 18” barrel because I wanted to keep the rifle ‘handy’, without too much loss of muzzle velocity and a consequent losss of terminal ballistics.

    The wood is crap. It is basically just laminated plywood. The shape and the strength are OK, but the fit and finish are substandard. The edges of the wood where it joins the receiver are not fit well, the gaps are uneven and sometimes one stands a little proud of the other. It could probably be rectified with some elbow grease, but then I’d have to refinish the stock. This rifle was bought with “rough use” in mind. I know that, over the years, the stock is going to get dinged up and the bluing will lose its depth or come off entirely in spots. I don’t care, so it isn’t worth the effort to me to make it look like a presentation rifle….. which I would then worry about getting dinged up.

    Other problems……. There is a tenon called the “magazine tube stud” (part #53 in the diagram image linked below) that rides in the dovetail under the barrel at the muzzle end, to which the magazine tube is screwed and held in place by tension against that stud, was not properly centered; and so the magazine tube was quite noticeably misaligned with the barrel. We (my gunsmith son and I) removed the fore-end wood, loosened the screw at the stud, aligned the tube with the barrel, and then retightened the screw to put proper tension on the stud, to keep the tube properly aligned. But when we did that, the fore-end wood would no longer easily reattach.

    The problem there was that the fore-end wood is attached to the barrel by means of another tenon called the Fore-End Tip Tenon (part #26 on the attached image link) which rides in a second dovetail underneath the barrel. That tenon has drilled and tapped holes on either side of it, to which the fore-end tip (part #26 on the attached image link) is attached by means of a screw on either side. With the magazine tube properly aligned to the barrel, the screw holes in the tenon were no longer at right angles to their corresponding holes in the fore-end tip. So when those screws are threaded in all the way, they *look* cross-threaded, although they are not.

    And to add insult to injury, the loading gate on the 336 is so stiff, that it is difficult for my 65 year old hands to stuff cartridges into it. At the range, I just gave up and started manually loading one at a time through the ejection port. There is a remedy for this, but it involves taking a stone to the loading gate spring and removing metal until the tension suits you – which of course will void the warranty and make the part more likely to break. How hard can it be to make a slightly more pliant spring? Older Marlin’s I’ve handled were not nearly so stiff at the loading gate.

    http://marlinspares.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/18952.bmp

    This is simply crappy attention to detail. When I contacted Remington directly by email with the serial number of my rifle to find out its date of manufacture – suspecting that it was an early “Remlin” – I was assured that my rifle was manufactured in late 2016…….. SIX YEARS AFTER Remington moved the Marlin plant to its new facility, and TWO YEARS after Remington announced that they had gotten their QC problems under control with the new dimensional drawings and had begun re-releasing other older models.

    I own a Remington 700 VSF in .308 that was manufactured in 2007, just before FG took them over. It is a GREAT rifle, and an absolute tack driver….. a consistent sub-MOA performer. It came with a jeweled bolt, 26” heavy profile fluted and floated 1:10 barrel with target crown, bedded in a tan HS-Precision varmint profile stock. So far, using off the shelf Black Hills 175 grain SMKs, I’ve been able to hit clay pigeons on the berm at 800 yards with it. Like I said, it’s a tack driver, and a very well-made rifle. But ever since 2007, Remington has not only gone downhill on its own brand, but FG has ruined everything else they’ve touched.

    Example: I also own an AAC suppressor. Their QC on muzzle devices to mount their own suppressor sucks…… one out of three of their flashhiders I purchased was so out of spec that you couldn’t get the suppressor onto the rifle. Their CS sucks even worse. When I contacted AAC about their 7.62 flashhider not fitting into one of their 7.62 cans, the guy basically didn’t believe me. He didn’t care that I had that flashhider on two other rifles and they fit just fine. I wanted to send the out-of-spec unit to them for an exchange, and he gave me some song and dance about how it was just going to sit on his desk for a week or two, until he had time to go down the street to the machinist they use to fabricate these things, and have him check it. And to add insult to injury, he told me that there was no way it was out of spec, because they “don’t ship out of spec products”, and so he was going to just end up returning the defective part to me. It was going to be a full-blown return authorization, and his tone of voice was like he was doing me a huge favor, and I was a pain in his ass……..all this ill-will generated over a $99 part.

    This was not my first bad experience with AAC – the first being when the ratchet on that suppressor flew off while shooting it in a rural environment, which fortunately did not result in a baffle strike. I found the ratchet in the dirt, but the pin that it swivels on vanished into the ether. Rather than send me a 29¢ pin (which I even volunteered to pay for, even though the can was still under warranty), and letting me fix my suppressor on my own, I had to do the old Return Authorization, with a copy of my stamp, etc., and the turn around would be “2 weeks”. (Everything at AAC takes “2 weeks”. :/ ) When FG acquired AAC, they really dicked that company up……just like they did to Remington, and just like they did to Marlin. I wrote the president of FG a pretty angry letter, detailing his company’s screw ups, and told him that, QC issues aside, his CS people were killing his business. He phoned me back, but I never got the feeling that he really bought into anything that I said.

    Long story short, I’m done with Remington, Marlin, and AAC. There are other fish in the sea, making products just as good or better, who at least don’t treat their customer base like they don’t know what they’re doing.

    Alternatively, when I decided I wanted a really nice .22 LR, I bought a Henry lever action rifle in that caliber. The wood is drop-dead gorgeous. The fit of the wood to the receiver is flawless. The octagonal barrel is a classic. The action is butter smooth – UNLIKE the Marlin’s. The magazine capacity – 16 rounds of LR, or 21 rounds of Short – is ridiculously generous. The stock sights, while a bit “cobby” looking, are sharper and easier to pick up than the OEM sights on the Marlin (which I spent considerable money on to upgrade). Other than having to get used to loading it from the muzzle end of the tube instead of through a loading gate, there’s just nothing not to like about this Henry rifle.

    Marlins USED to be like that. Not any longer. My next lever action will be in .45-70, and it will be a Henry. For the $100 or so difference in price, you get a MUCH better rifle. I can get used to how it loads. I can’t get used to a crappy rifle.

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  8. These stories always make me want to go hunting. But I don’t have the $$, the fitness level, or the gumption, so hunting for stories about hunting is all the hunting I ever do. 🙂

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    • I’ll second that! I bought it around 2005 at The Spyderco store in Golden. To this day, it’s one of those few purchases I’ve never regretted!

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  9. Metaphorically, dropping a linebacker in mid-charge is quite potent, however, hitting him with ANY caliber while he’s kneeling for the national anthem is hardly sporting.

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  10. .30 Mauser for my 1896 Broomhandle… for its very early semi auto design (I will be generous and include the slightly less powerful .30 luger for the same period.

    but far out in front of them is the .45 Colt for the Single Action Army of 1872

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  11. Does anybody read the story? MJ use is federally illegal. The background check asks about “illegal” drug use and if you answer truthfully about so callled “medical” MJ you will be denied buying a firearm. This is federal and true in every state. There is no federal law that makes drug use, legal or otherwise, a criteria for not possessing a firearm only buying one from a dealer. Maybe Hawaii has a law about this but I don’t think so. Cross checking the medical MJ card registry against the background check would be the responsibility of the ATF to catch people lying on the form. Again, I don’t know the laws and responsibilities of Hawaii law enforcement and gun laws.

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    • I’ve always wanted a Mad Max pistol grip double barrel 12ga with leg holster, but I’m told that owning one (legally) would involve moving to another country.

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  12. It will be great for my wife. We live in Oregon and have a daughter living in Portland, OR, and a son living in Vancouver, WA. Currently when we go to visit my wife doesn’t carry at all, because once we cross the Columbia River, she can’t do so legally with an Oregon CHL. As a retired LEO it has no effect for me.

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  13. There are many fine, fun, and effective cartridges out there, though, ranging from purpose-built to more general use. For the shooting that I like to do, and for the shooting that I would most likely ever be called upon to do, 9mm and .22lr by far span the most territory for me.

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  14. Step 1: get a copy of your personal medical records.
    Step 2: get a rugged lock box for your personal medical records.
    Step 3: label the lock box “Personal Medical Records”.
    Step 4: put your personal medical records in the lock box.
    Step 5: put the lock box under your car seat.
    Step 6: put your “emergency medical lead injector” in the lock box.
    If pulled over, refuse to open the lock box, sighting medical privacy laws. If they take it from you and force it open, make sure the medical records are on top, so they can’t help but to see them when they go for your gun. Now you have something to trade, forget the gun and I won’t charge you for violating HIPA laws.

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  15. “The gloves come off . . . No compromise to curb gun violence”

    Pennsylvania Podunk there has a few things wrong… Sadly, most of his draconianism is just him trying to impose a penalty on people he doesn’t like, for doing things he doesn’t personally approve of. He seems to have confused being head of the hazing committee and making actual laws impacting grown-ups who aren’t him. “Please sir, may I have another.” — Not.

    “The people will now demand that you either respect the will of the people, or get out of the way.”

    The people have rejected far less draconian gun laws repeatedly, see the federal “Assault Weapons Ban” up through “third time’s the charm”, the steady state and local restriction rollbacks over the last 10 years, Supreme Court rulings hauling back “bans by other means”, plus of course polls, national voting that installed a government with which preference, and people “voting” with their dollars and time in record numbers, by buying guns.

    The willful people also continue to support the 2A, which makes all these proposals non-starters.

    Perhaps Pennsylvania Podunk there should try respecting the will of the people.

    “The only way to get a meaningful handle on a problem that has gotten so far out of hand …”

    So far “out of hand” that violence and murder using guns keeps going down, precipitously, BTW while the number of guns in the population keeps going up.

    The problem is elsewhere: bad people doing bad things, sprawling criminal conspiracies, thugs, terrorists and whack-jobs. And indeed, we should get serious, about violence, and about the drivers of violence done with guns, which do not include peaceful, responsible people owning them.

    “1. Every firearm, from small-caliber handguns to assault weapons that can be operated like machine guns, must be registered and a registration fee imposed each year, like we must do for every motor vehicle.”

    Easily done. Things that operate “like” machine guns are called machine guns and they’re already registered. Registering “assault weapons” is likewise easy, as citizens already don’t have those. (See “machine guns.”)

    Registering every other gun is a non-starter: what’s it pay for?

    Motor vehicle registration fees are there to pay for roads & similar. Absent funding something legal, and related, those fees would be afoul of at least infringement, disparate impact, prior restraint, privacy, penalizing a lawful activity, a tax that isn’t a tax, interference with commerce, and … how many more do you want?

    “Every owner and user of firearms must be licensed, with a license exam when first applying, like that for a driver’s license and license renewal periodically with a fee collected for such a service.”

    See the gun registration scheme above.

    “Each purchase of ammunition must be recorded and cleared by a background check, the ammunition being restricted for hunting purposes. Armor-piercing ammunition shall be banned completely, and all ammunition made subject to an excise tax.”

    See the gun registration scheme above.

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  16. .30-30 Win and .45-70 gov in my BFRs…
    Nothing matches needing to ice your arm after a few cylinders of booms. I tried to two-hand mojo them once. Only once.

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  17. Does “pistol” mean auto cartridges only? If not, then:

    — My favorite is .40 S&W for its versatility,* modest price, and ubiquitous availability.

    — My second favorite is .44 Magnum for its versatility and ubiquitous availability.

    * Cartridges are available with 135 grain bullets approaching (sort of) .357 Magnum muzzle velocities. Or you can step up to 165 grain bullets with respectable velocity and penetration. And you can step all the way up to 180 grain bullets with decent velocity and excellent penetration. (Note: although not widely available, can even get “specialty” cartridges with 200 grain hardcast lead bullets for feral hog and black bear self-defense.)

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  18. Who is this General? I guess he is either a fool or a plain core Commie,Socialist, Democratic death Party Member. CCW carriers spend time at there shooting clubs. They come from different background’s. Military,law enforcement,etc.Why is this person speaking about CCW should not have the right to carry there weapons into another state. They are carrying to protect themselves,family.

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  19. So, countless government employees stunk at their jobs and authorized federal firearm licensees to sell firearms to thousands of “prohibited persons”.

    And yet we are supposed to trust that countless government employees will carry out their jobs in stellar fashion (to approve firearm sales for “non-prohibited persons”) and never interfere with our ability to purchase firearms?

    In the immortal words of television series Home Improvement character Al Borland, “I don’t think so, Tim.”

    Incompetence, malaise, apathy, malice, and inadequate resourcing are just some of the reasons why government employees could screw us with respect to background checks. We need to eliminate the background check system.

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  20. The problem stems from the lack of action by SCOTUS on making it clear that this shit is not legit. By not hearing the Kolbe case, they just opened the door for more and more of this shit to continue.

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  21. Hell yeah. We’re fighting to win now. Not just hold on. I remember when there was much talk of a “high water mark” for gun rights a few years ago. Now we’re on offense and they’re the ones just trying to hold on. Keep going forward, not one step backwards!

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  22. Some of these people could have had a civil commitment for drug use years ago, they could be fingered by an ex wife or gf for yelling at them, that they have not seen in years.
    someone could have claimed they were a danger to themselves or others and all is fine now. It isn’t just ex felons

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  23. This is coming out of left field for me. I lived in Rockledge for about a year. Nice place, bedroom community and the walmart was very, very nice. So nice that I worked for them and made friends with my co-workers. Not the kind of place this should have happened, can’t help but wonder what went wrong.

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  24. I suppose the land whale’s sexual assault defense strategy is to continue accumulating mass? Were they trying to be ironic with the Katy Perry porn star aesthetic while decrying harassment, or mocking the over sensitivity to perceived harassment, or mocking virtue signaling ‘me too’ dog piles, or what? The only thing I’m sure of is they couldn’t be playing the message straight, since the delivery was so nonsensical. I must have missed something, because there were at most three identifiable ‘jokes’ in that sketch. Weak ones. Unless pity-party whining is the female equivalent of fart jokes the opposite sex cannot parse. The character in a trench coat is a gal appropriating male & trans culture while perpetuating stereotypes, both racial and sexual.

    The density of female comics is inverse to the amount of comedy produced (when they were rare, they were hilarious; now they are ubiquitous, and practically none are funny)

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  25. Hopping out of the truck without setting the brake or putting it in park can definitely be expensive. I have a new anterior cruciate ligament to prove it. Don’t ask what it cost. Thank God for medical insurance.

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  26. Also, that special guest star on SNL was female Irish actor Saoirse Ronan…She did a number of Sci-drama, Sci-apocalyptic movies such as HANNA (played a young Russian girl who was a genetic augment designed to be a super-soilder…good movie, decent action…also the movie, How I live Now…A day after apocalypse movie…) So, she must have had some specialized firearms training like most rich movie stars do…When doing action type flicks…

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  27. Oh man, this is a topic where the misconceptions fly fast and furious (see what I did there?).

    Irregardless of the medical/anti-inflammatory purposes of certain compounds in pot and irregardless of how people choose to take it pot really isn’t dangerous unless the users are driving and therefore have a slowed reaction time which isn’t good on a highway. It’s not fucking crank for Christ’s sake. I personally know dozens of people who are pot smokers and they’re far safer about handling a gun than your average libtard is when the libtard is dead-nuts sober. I know a bunch of people who like to have some drinks and snort some nose-candy on Friday nights too. Again, I’d hand them a gun when they’re less-than-sober long before I’d hand it to some of the morons I’ve had the “pleasure” to work with even if my co-workers/former co-workers were sober.

    The overarching question here isn’t about “guns” or “drugs” or “guns & drugs”. Crackheads will still use the latter and steal the former no matter what the law is. The real question is what the proper role of government is when it comes to these three topics. That’s a question that each person is going to have a slightly different answer to.

    Personally I tend to err on the side of personal freedom but that’s just me. There are a lot of other issues that *could* be drug/intoxication related where I don’t think anyone would argue someone should lose their gun rights unless they’re consistently being irresponsible with their meds/condition and showing a predilection for dangerous behavior. Diabetes comes to mind; here in Colorado there was a class action lawsuit over diabetes/DUI/DWAI because the cops killed dozens of people who had low blood sugar by locking them up for DUI and not feeding them (“Fucking drunks, they get what they deserve” was the mantra). Does the fact that someone failing to fully match their meds to their food intake to their activity level results in them acting drunk mean they shouldn’t have a gun? You’d basically have to be a retard to argue that but the overall results of their situation are the same: they are effectively heavily intoxicated by taking their medication.

    This is one of those places where there is just too much grey area for my taste. Let people do what they want and, if they display threatening behavior, deal with that in-and-of-itself. The fact that someone is high on meth isn’t really meaningful if they don’t do anything else. If they break into your house waving around a machete, well, isn’t that why you have a gun?

    The drug really isn’t the issue. Behavior is the issue and if we let nature take it’s course the behavior will rapidly settle out who’s a responsible user and who isn’t because the irresponsible users will display behavior that gets them locked up or laid out on a slab.

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  28. “These prohibited persons are, after all, convicted felons, those who have been involuntarily committed or are the subject of orders of protection.” How do we know that they don’t fall into any of the 6(?) other categories of prohibited person?

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  29. 1: “So, you can vote for a pedophile-”
    2: “I’d never vote for a pedophile, that’s ridiculous!”
    1: “Or a Democrat.”
    2: “… Well, let’s at least hear what the pedophile has to say.”

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  30. The real shame of it is that Hill Jacks are so ignorant that today they still are butchering up valuable collectible military rifles into Jehtro Bodine “project guns” that turn them into Franken Monster worthless junk guns not worth the powder it would take to blow them up. They always spend double what it would cost to buy a used commercial gun or even some of the newer plasticky trash that is for sale at Wal Mart etc. Yes the new plasticky trash does go bang and at least when it gets soaking wet and smacked against trees the world loses nothing but a modern trash junk gun not a valuable historic military rifle. Remember Nato 2 years or so ago passed a law to destroy all military guns that were no longer being used and classed as obsolete so the military stuff out there now can go no where except up, up, up in value in the years ahead something totally over the head of Jethro Bodine and the hammer and chisel crowd. Think about that next time you plan on annihilating a valuable historical rifle into useless junk.

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  31. Had a boo-foo. The 44-40 was not a rimfire round. The Henry was chambered in a 44 Rimfire and there were some Model Ps made in that caliber.

    The 44-40 was a centerfire cartridge and was also know as the 44 CLMR (Colt Lightning Magazine Rifle).

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