In the video below, YouTuber Moonbase Alpha rips the Smith & Wesson 329PD a new one. He finds the Smith’s quality galling. Literally. I don’t tend to keep many guns, or keep the ones I have very long. So I go for quality. But my gun safe does shelter a $387 Hi-Point 4595TS Pro Carbine TTAG bought for review — and awarded four stars! Still, it IS one fugly gun. What’s the worst gun you own or, if you don’t have any POS firearms, have owned?
https://youtu.be/ReCaA56OYRI
“is there anything in the house worth your life?”
So what if he had a wife and/or kids?
If I know for a fact that my loved ones are not home I’m not going in.
All politicians are traitors.
It’s in their nature- how else can they negotiate against an adversarial party?
Never trust them.
You cannot earn their faith. You can only rent it.
“Sig” Mosquito. Overly complicated (it has a decocker, manual safety and a mag safety. Plus an LCR). It is not particularly accurate. (And it is not a Sig at all, but a GSG.) Unlike others, I haven’t had reliability problems, but I really want something that I can use for target shooting, like the Ruger or the Browning Buckmark. No dealer in town will take it off my hands, because no one wants to buy them.
I was tempted more than once into buying a Mosquito or Firefly, but something in my gut always told me to stay away. After doing some research, turned out to be a good instinct. A Ruger SR22 or Walther seems to be the go-to for a .22 pistol that mimics a carry or duty gun. I’ve never messed around with Walthers too much, but the SR22 has always done well for me.
Had a SR22, sold it and bought a Walther PPQ .22. Great gun. The size of a full-caliber PPQ and not toy-like like the Ruger.
My wife had a mosquito. Total jam-o-matic. Sold it on GunBroker for a case of beer. The new owner later emailed me to let me know how happy he was with it (sarc).
I can see the hotel not calling police BEFORE the gunshots since there was no way to predict what was going to happen. although how did this guy get all those guns in his room with out being seen. and armed security guards should have responded and opened fire on the room. security should have relayed info to the police who then should have moved in, firing if still necessary . a quick check to the desk to see if he checked in alone or with others, to get an idea how many were in the room. and since he was the only one then just shoot to stop him. like I have been saying don’t sue the maker of a plastic stock, don’t even try to ban it or regulate it. put the blame where it should be, sue the hotel and event manager of the concert. you do not have a concert with that many security loopholes in todays terrorist rich envirement , you are just begging for something to happen.
I don’t own enough to have any bad guns. Dad has an old 22LR Iver Johnson that can’t complete a magazine without choking no matter what he does to it.
It’s a toss up between my 188 series Mini14 and my Henry .30-30
Ruger sr9… sometimes action closes when it is locked open, also is prone to jams.
Sucks…sounds like you may have gotten a lemon; in my personal experience, I have shot the 9mm and .40 cal version of the SR series, and both functioned flawlessly over hundreds of rounds. I sold my SR40 to fund another purchase, but my friend still has his SR9, and like I said, performs great.
Not to pile on, but I have an SR9 that has been utterly reliable and a pleasure to shoot and own.
Is there peening happening on the slide lock or something?
WTF happened to my first response?
DPMS G2 Recon, jams constantly, every 8-10 rounds. Sent it back for repair, came right back with a note that they fired 20 rds and worked fine. Took it out again and still jammed constantly. Next trip will take camera and record jams before clearing, send those to DPMS and see if they can come up with a better answer.
Those 308 Nato/7.62 x 51 designated weapons sometimes choke if you run 308 Win. thru them. They’re not supposed to be different by enough to matter, but . . . https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/7-62-nato-vs-308-winchester-ammo-whats-the-difference/#axzz4vK7NNCWd
I’ll wait for the comments to the contrary. . .
All ammo I have used was 7.62 NATO right out of the can.
The first gun control laws passed in the US were to keep guns out of the hands of black slaves.
You would think that their “community leaders” would remember this, and insist/demand the right to bear arms,
rather than the gun control toilets that places like Chicago have become.
Blinded by a lust for power isn’t just a white mans’ disease…
A Cobray M11 that I traded back a Rossi .357 for, because the latter had sentimental value for the recipient. I’ll grant that it’s quite reliable; I couldn’t make it hiccup no matter what, but it’s not comfortable to hold because of the massive grip and sharp edges on the trigger guard, and the huge, top-heavy bolt makes it hard to control without using a barrel extension. It’s both fun to shoot and not fun to shoot at the same time.
Another I’m on the fence about is my Taurus PT92, because it’s suddenly picked up the habit of throwing hot brass right in my damned face unless I use the center axis relock stance. Might trade it in towards a new Ruger GP100 to replace the Rossi.
Bersa thunder 380.. anemic cartridge, low capacity, heavy for what it is, hurts the hand, jams ALOT…. I have a 329PD. I like it fir what it is. Light weight, big rounds, always fires, accuate. Feels like a .500 s&w. But its all about weight savings, which is why I bought it.
Savage A17
people need to understand where the disarmament of the population originates from. all these laws come from the same agenda that is flooding all nations with illegal immigrants,radical Muslims and so-called refugees from Africa. any politicians or law makers are sell outs of their country. they are bought and paid for by the EU. The universal background check is the EU agenda. the EU WANTS AND IS GETTING TOTAL DISARMAMENT DONE. Look at South Africa, England, Australia. If the EU gets what it wants with Gun control, the only people that will be armed are terrorists, tyrants and criminals. we ,the NRA Should join the Visegrad group because they are the only nations fighting the EU.
Zastava M88A. The mags are made of such soft steel that they rounded off after a couple hundred rounds and they just fall out. Mag issue aside, the grip sucks, it’s inaccurate, and it only holds 8 rounds even though it’s a full size 9mm.
Zastavas can have issues. An inexpensive EZ40 I lost in a firey boat wreck, looks like a Sig product, and has a metal frame and hammer, and some features I wish Sig thought of, but it ain’t a Sig, and won’t ever work like one.
Question about 08:39: Is a “rifled choke” the same as a rifled barrel? I understood a choke to be the cylinder screwed into the inside of the muzzle.
I’ve got a stainless Sig p232, given to me by a family member who no longer wanted it (and probably didn’t take very good care of it). I’ve never had a problem with any of your more typical Sigs, but this one wasn’t particularly reliable when I got it, and within a year it developed an unwillingness to return to battery after every shot. I’ve messed with it for hours and replaced several parts, and I still can’t get it running right.
It’s heavy for size, so I think it would make a decent first-timer handgun for smaller hands, and maybe something classy to keep in an office desk. But it’s not particularly exciting to shoot and I don’t want to spend the money to have a gunsmith check it out.
Paddock was going to kill people and there was little if nothing that could have been done to stop him.
Here is a cold hard fact that the antis and those looking for answers or someone or (something) to blame; there is NOTHING on this inherently violent planet that is going to stop unimaginable acts of violence. When you have human madmen, bad things are going to happen. Paddock chose a highly theatrical method of carrying out his horrific scheme, but the reality of it is he could have accomplished his elusive motive much more effectively and efficiently than using firearms and bump stocks and things would have been much worse.
Yes, we are getting the picture, the hotel seems to have had ineffective security for dealing with such an act. Undoubtedly their security was excellent at kicking out drunk disruptive guest, checking IDs for underage gamblers and protecting the casino from cheats, but a madman going wild with a rifle just wasn’t something they practiced. Security is designed for any likely threat. Had the Mandalay perceived the sort of threat Paddock presented, they could have employed a contingent of former police SWAT officers, Navy Seal, Special Forces type people who were well practiced in securing that facility from virtually any threat. But that just wasn’t an imaginable threat.
The obvious and sad cold hard fact that everyone will ultimately need to accept or at least recognize, there is nothing that would have stopped Paddock from engaging in his plan to kill the innocent and unsuspecting.
His motive was to give anti gunners everything they need to repeal the second amendment. Look at his actions and his brothers interviews. The government should know this by now, but it is better for them to never tell the public.
A .308 bolt action would have stopped him real good.
It’s obvious such an attack was a matter of time. The government already knows of such threats. Look at Mumbai.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDROrLtc6GM
Pro Tip: Dont surrender your property rights to any agent of the state.
Just because the cops were called by the alarm system, does not mean they get carte blanch to trespass or enter the dwelling if the owner is present.
Stick your “Former IDF sniper” up your butt. (From an old, not fat, white guy that does know better).
He carries on like a visit from the police is a magical cure-all.
Cop: “Um, Sir, we notice you bought 25 guns in a six month period. Any particular reason why?”
Guy: “Yeah. I like guns.”
Cop: “…”
Cop: “And you’re not a terrorist? Planning a jihad? Going to mow down a concert?”
Guy: “Nope.”
Cop: “…”
Cop: “Not at all? You’re totally not a bad guy lying to us?”
Guy: “Nope.”
Cop: “Can we search your house?”
Guy: “Got a warrant?”
Cop: “Um…”
Guy: “Nope.”
Srsly.
Umarex MP5A5 22lr. Jams multiple times per magazine and at 7 yards shoots 6″ low. On top of that, its my safe queen. Got it right before the great 22 shortage of ’14 and didn’t want to use up my precious stash of 22lr.
Gonna try and sell/trade it on a 10/22.
Spanish Mauser in 308. Every time I would fire it the floor plate would come loose a drop whatever remaining rounds in the mag. A 1985 vintage Charter Arms Off Duty revolver the cylinder release screw screws in and wont allow the cylinder to be released. Nail polish works for a while.
Objectively and practically, my Colt 1903 that I got for $150 because of the terrible shape it was in. Never seen a recoil spring bent into a dog leg before that one…
But I love the damn thing. I wish .32 wasn’t so pricey, its the perfect sidearm for incidental game when I’m wandering the woods. Even managed a couple clean kills on smaller hogs with it.
My Congress Critter is John Yarmouth. Full on Progressive nut job. Only reason he keeps gettingg elected is because Louisville is trying so hard to be Berkley-on-the-Ohio. Bunch moonbats.
So a waste of time.
Before the tragic boating accident, I had a Jennings .22 pistol. It had a cable lock through the action. I lost the key, but it was more useful as a flail anyway.
Confronting burglars at your home before police arrive is a dicey proposition for two reasons:
(1) You have no idea how many burglars are in your home, where they are, whether they have additional accomplices outside that can come in behind you and really mess up your day, nor whether they are armed. In other words you have no idea what you are walking into, alone, without any backup. Not a good idea.
(2) If the police arrive right behind you and enter your home while you are in the middle of a confrontation or even a fight (with or without weapons), there is a substantial risk that they harm you in the process of doing their job.
Having said all that, most of us certainly do NOT want to see the burglars escape: they might assault, rape, and/or kill the occupants of the next home that they rob. And you could be facing a huge financial loss if the burglars escape with your stolen property because there is a really good chance that police will never recover it for you.
There are very compelling reasons to go in before police arrive and very compelling reasons to wait until police arrive. Whether or not you decide to go into your home anyway and confront your burglars is up to you. Choose wisely.
Short version: it works either way in Florida
It’s true that you don’t know how many there are but if there are more than one you can smoke the first one and yell “X-1! Let’s find out where the graph crosses the axis motherfuckers! I fucking LOVE killing algebraically!!”
How often do you get to nerd out about math and have people literally scared for their lives?
OK, I got a good giggle at “strych9’s” line: “I f**king LOVE killing algebraically!”
😀
1917 Remington M1891 Mosin Nagant. War worn as hell, broken (Arshin) rear ramp sight spring, bolt looser than a two-cent whore, but sexy as hell above the mantle. Now if anyone has a 1917 Remington (not Eddystone) Enfield (.303 Brit) for sale equally war worn, I’m your man.
For those interested it does bear the Czar’s Armory mark (pre revolution) and Finnish markings which implies it was captured during the Winter War 1930.
If even a volunteer FD or part-time EMS crew responded to an emergency as incompetently as it now appears that the guys who are “professionals” with guns did, they’d be sacked. Yes, you can sack even volunteers.
I see why there’s so few details and concrete information coming out of this investigation. Every day presents the LVSD with another need to do a double-barreled face-palm.
Worst I’ve owned was a Sig P290. Sucker had a trigger which you started the pull on Saturday and the gun went off on Sunday. Forget follow-up shots. Saving grace is I sold it for more than it cost me.
In Tulsa, OK, you have between 90 and 120 minutes before the TPD responds to a burglary call. Under Oklahoma law, as long as the burglars are still in your residence, you can use lethal force even if there is no perceived threat to your safety. So, if you think the things in your house are worth the risk, there are no criminal or civil penalties for shooting the bad guys.
Honestly, I personally view even Freaky Feinstein’s bill as the lesser of 2 evils in this case. Laws can be overturned or repealed, and congresscritters who vote for it can be primaried. Does anyone here have a process for primarying an ATF mid-level beaurocrat? The IRS & veterans admin have shown them that the individuals responsible will never suffer. And if a law is struck down by the court a new one has to be written and voted on. If a beaurocratic regulation is struck down, the agency can change 1 word and reinstate it the next day.
A M88a, aka the Baby tokarev.
The thing is absolute garbage. Its a gun i really wanted to love but, cant. Ive always thought the old soviet pistols looked really neat and it actually feels really good in the hand. Plus i love the idea of a really cheap gun i can leave in my car or stash away. However, the sights fell off the first time i shot it, the magazine would fall out after each shot, the muzzle crown was really knicked up, and there was a scratch in the barrel. I was getting 6 inch groups with the thing at 10 feet away. I got it off gun broker a couple years ago for only $200 after a transfer and shipping. I was able to fix the magazine drop by filing down the magazine release and locktited the sights in, but its still ridiculously inacurate and stove pipes about once every 30 rounds or so you put in it.
I just cant believe theres people out there who actually carry these things.
If my home isn’t worth defending, then what is?
I’m going in, and if I’m threatened I’ll shoot. The cops are useless anyway.
Since everyone is talking revolvers, I have an off the wall question. What is your opinion on using a magazine to reload a revolver. Take a 357 magazine and load with 38 spec. Dump the expended brass and feed the reloads straight from the magazine into the cylinder. This is done by pushing the reload from the magazine as if you were emptying the magazine, the reload goes into the cylinder which is rotated to receive the next reload.
Moon clips are the fastest followed by speedloaders, half-moons, speed strips and loose rounds in that order. Your mag idea would probably be slower than all of ’em.
Worst blanket “pro tip” I’ve seen on TTAG. What if 5-O takes a detour to the donut shop? What if burgler boy(s) is an arsonist?!? I AM my burglar alarm…
Taurus 65 4″ .357. Damn thing looked up while dry firing! Before I’d even shot it. Off to Taurus, 2 weeks later it was traded for the S & W 686. Only Taurus I’ve ever bought, will never be a second.
Sigh. That’s all I’m going to say: Sigh.
First, .44 Mag revolvers tend to be accurate. I’ve found the .44 Mag (and Special) in just about any well-made revolver (ie, Colt, S&W, Wesson, Ruger) to be able to lay them into a pretty nice group, regardless whether we’re talking a 29/629/Wesson/Ruger/Colt. The .44’s seem to be in a sweet spot for accuracy, and well-made bullets are highly available. If I’m shooting any S&W .44 with an all-steel frame at 25 yards and getting a group of more than about 2.5″, I know it’s probably me, and not the gun. Maybe I’m flinching due to the noise and pressure of the .44. In the past, with 629DX’s, I’ve been able to lay down 5-round groups of 1.5″ at 25 yards, and about the same with shorter-barreled 29’s. The only beef I have now with a .44Mag is the noise and pressure, and that’s due to my tinnitus, not the gun.
Second, revolvers can handle being loaded light or heavy, and they’ll continue to cycle reliably, round after round. You can’t do that so easily with a semi-auto of any type. I can load a .357 with 148 wadcutters with just enough powder under them to make them cut nice holes at 25 or 50 yards – and with practically no recoil out of a steel-framed revolver. Same deal for .44’s. Try loading any semi-auto like that, and you’ll have to be cycling the slide by hand for every round. Contra-positively, I can stoke a revolver to much higher limits than I can in most semi-autos, because the case is fully supported in a revolver chamber. Rugers are quite well known for allowing you to load .44’s and .45 Colts to Nearly Stupid Powerful[tm] loads. S&W’s, not as much, because the frame for S&W’s isn’t as heavy as the Rugers are, their steel isn’t heat treated to as high a tensile strength, and you’ll stretch the window of the gun after enough Nearly Stupid Powerful loads – and there’s no way to put the window back to original dimensions.
Colt’s DA revolver for the .44 Mag (eg, absurdly-late-to-market Anaconda) could handle heavier loads than S&W’s, but I’d keep both the S&W and Colt loads down to more reasonable levels than the Ruger loads. Rugers are just built like brick outhouses, and they can handle some ferocious loads.
Third, as others have commented, revolvers can be shot pretty darn well in DA mode once you learn how. Hint: A revolver isn’t a semi-auto. A S&W revolver has a 12lb pull in DA mode (by factory spec) and with an action job, you can typically get it into the 8.5 to 9lb range. The SA pull on a S&W is 2.75lbs, from the factory. Darn few semi-auto handguns give you a trigger pull option like a well-tuned revolver.
Lastly: The grip profile makes a big difference in shooting a revolver. How the grip fills your hand is a Real Thing for revolvers, much more than in semi-autos. For people who are having trouble putting rounds on target with a revolver, I’d recommend going to a revolver gunsmith and asking him to look at how your revolver’s grips are filling your hand. When you have the correct set of grips on a revolver, the revolver “points” naturally, and, like settling into your natural point of aim in rifle shooting, it makes it oh-so-much easier to put rounds on target with a revolver when the gun points where you want it, naturally, than if you’re having to fight the gun onto the target for every shot.
Well said.
‘…their steel isn’t heat treated to as high a tensile strength…’
Not even an amateur metallurgist, but it was my understanding that the Rugers needed the heat treatment because they’re cast not forged. That it was the bulk of the steel where it was needed that made the Rugers stronger. Also, stainless steel is purported to have significantly higher tensile strength than carbon steel (although I think carbon steel can be made harder). Just curious if I’ve got my facts straight.
The fact that you don’t have to feed the ammun ition magazine through the g rip is one of the biggest advantages of revolvers. The Altamont gr ips for the GP100s (rubber with wood side panels) are the most comfortable gr ips for my XXL glove sized hands, yet everyone else seems to love them as well regardless of glove size. I also find that most autos point low on presentation for me and I have to raise the front to find the sig ht. Revolvers tend to point with the front si ght just above the back so you just have to drop it into the notch. Interestingly, the .44 mag birdshead Vaquero I bought a few months ago has a surprisingly comfortable gr ip. You have to shoot it to believe how well a two finger gr ip can control the rec oil of the .44.
If I can’t fix ” worst guns” I turn them into the cops for a Big Ole Feel Good—–_NOT
Surplus Norinco SKS. Great design, but this one in particular had a very rough chamber that would cause the case to drag on extraction, which meant the bolt would lose enough velocity to stove pipe at least once per magazine. Sometimes the case wouldn’t extract at all, requiring me to mortar the rifle to get it out. I’ve since polished the chamber, but haven’t test fired it yet. It’s unreliable untill proven otherwise.
Would anyone really notice if pocket dump of the day disappeared?
This.
Lets make it weekly and just save the most interesting ones
Hot glue gun.
Squeeze the damn trigger when it’s hot – get hot glue out the scalding end. Let off the trigger – get hot glue out the scalding end.
NRA and LaRue tactical are thinking of filing an Amicus Curiae brief with the Supreme Court of the UN to have me stoned for owning a bump fire glue gun.
Jennings J-22
At best this stupid 22 can fire one round without a failure. But that one task is few and far between. I have been amazed by the variety of failures that this tiny pistol can deliver from just one little magazine, including firing multiple rounds with one trigger pull.
Got this piece of crap for free and I paid too much!
same for me. Damn gun is horrible….
An old webly I inherited. It is one ugly gat.
This is why the Constitution needs to be thrown out and we need to start again.
Decentralization would mean that this is never allowed to happen. Sure states like MA, CA, NY and NJ would probably still be commie hell holes, but outside of those borders other States should never have to worry about blanket federal restrictions.
This is why National Reciprocity is a death knell for gun rights, not a windfall. Once you let the fedgov monster into your house, it never ever leaves. And if it can magically grant that all 50 states must recognize concealed carry permits then in 4 years or 8 or 16 or 20 or 50 years it can magically reverse its’ decision and take away all 50 states’ right to concealed carry.
Be careful what you wish for.
#wehavethegovernmentwedeserve
“This is why the Constitution needs to be thrown out and we need to start again.”
No, we need to throw out the elected, appointed, and hired government employees who routinely and flagrantly violate the U.S. Constitution, state constitutions, and Common Law.
The U.S. Constitution is nothing more than an ideal which is powerless if We the People are not willing to enforce it.
Growl “get off my lawn”. Shuck your 870, or lock and load your M1 (M14?).
Torch the house. Shoot anyone you don’t know who flees the fire.
No one will ever rob you (or step on your lawn dwarves) again.
LCRx .22LR 3″. Horrid trigger, horrid inaccuracy. Moved it along.
Taurus Millnium Pro .45ACP. Couldn’t hit paper at 15 yards, 3 trips to factory. Moved it along.
W O W, lemmings. Talk about people not having a finger on the pulse of the people.
BAN AMMOLAND, JEFF KNOX, AND THE FIREARMS COALITION, WHAT A BUNCH OF FINGER IN THE AIR, DOUCHES.
BUCK UP !
I don’t give a single shit what anyone dumps out of their pocket. Most of them are lying anyways.
This isn’t half-bad, but the author should have had this article reviewed by somebody who is knowledgeable about revolvers* Because he isn’t, he made some pretty big mistakes…and readers should not believe them.
First, he writes that these guns are heavy magnum revolvers. They aren’t. They’re unusually light magnum revolvers, and light ones give the shooter a whole lot more kickback. If he had known that fact, he would have told the readers that other magnum revolvers would have much, much less kickback.
So would magnum revolvers that have longer barrels.
Second, he didn’t realize that he was not shooting normal-weight magnum bullets, but very heavy bullets, and heavy bullets give much more recoil. Most of today’s shooters are not hunters, and do not need the three or four feet of penetration that these heavy bullets will yield. They should instead use much lighter magnum bullets.
I’m a little surprised that he made that particular mistake. I would have thought that an Israeli army sniper would have been required to train with the Desert Eagle handgun, which is twice as heavy as these revolvers, and will only function with hot-load magnum ammo, too. Israelis invented that gun because they’re so likely to be in combat in desert environments that offer very little cover, long sight lines, and longer-distance battles.
Current Israeli handgun training is outside of my area of knowledge, so maybe someone else can fill us all in. Could be Israel dropped the D.E. when its ownership changed hands to Kahr.
* He plainly states that he had no real background with revolvers at the beginning of the article. He IS an expert in other firearms, and in shooting those, of course…)
Ruger meets Cabot?
I have a slide fire stock for sale here in nacogdoches texas if you want one make me an offer I can’t refuse and it is yours my phone number is 936)6459860
I’ve stopped two late-night home invasions during the past two years with my Ruger AR-556, one time they smashed in through the dining room window, the other time three thugs in hoodies went for the basement entrance. The mere appearance of a gun caused them to flee into the night faster than a pack of jackrabbits. Both times, there was an aging parent in the house, sound asleep. Cameras, physical barriers and motion sensors gave me the time to react. At 2:30 a.m., when the second attempt occurred, I was fortunate to have a reliable alert system to give myself a fighting chance. The police arrived about twenty minutes after the second intrusion attempt, which is not quick enough to make a difference. The harsh reality is, against violent crime, you are truly on your own.
If you want to ban bump stocks then everything is up for grabs.
If azzhat had used a lever action rifle to attack the innocent would that be ok. Just because SCOTUS decided that it is ok to limit the 2A, does not mean we should accept it.
Either you have a right to bear arms or not, be it suppressed full auto or your grandpa’s double, the right not limited because SCOTUS is acting like a committee, and afraid to act. Would we accept the same limits on our 1A, no government does not dictate unless we let them.
Never give up, never give in (couldn’t resist)
If legal civilian ownership and making of machine guns had not been cut off in 1986, there would have been no need for “bump-fire” stocks…
Let’s face it…(simulated) full-automatic fire is FUN! (Expensive, but FUN!). When unreasonable rules and laws are put into place, humans will find a way around them.
Repeal the Lautenberg amendment and you will see “bump-fire” stocks go away…
The government might have cut off civilian legal “transferable” M-16’s in May of 1986 but don’t think for a minute that there are not many out there who have an AR stashed away that has the third hole drilled in just the right place with a full-auto trigger installed. If some sort of civil war 2.0 or meltdown against the leftists happened all these would get dusted off quickly and would be put to good use. Don’t think that the .gov isn’t aware of this…they probably have projections on what they are up against which is why you see the big push for gun control and slow creep to ban semi-autos. We either fight this now or it is going to get nasty in a hurry. As gun owners we have to ask ourselves where the red line is drawn. At what point do you say enough is enough and turn to the cartridge box. Are you willing to die for your beliefs? We aren’t there yet but it could happen. When is does things will quickly go to shit. Be ready, be vigilant.
RF –
First you write that the NRA/Ryan two-step”….is only a less-bad option.” Then, you follow immediately with a full explanation of why the NRA-Ryan two-step is an absolute worse option.
????
Write, call, & e-mail your congress-critters. Don’t just post upset comments on the Internet.
If the picture above showing the gun/sight profile is any indication of how the gun was held during testing, I would say someone needs a lesson in how to get up on the grip of a revolver – or any gun for that matter. Even for a picture, there is no reason to hold a gun like you just grabbed a turd.
And as John Boch said above (paraphrase), no, you don’t quick cock a DA revolver for defense shooting. It’s dumb, slow and just asking for trouble. With all do respect, you don’t know what you don’t know.
Eons ago I shot a Ruger Security-Six regularly. Target, PPC, Stress fire, game, you name it. I was fortunate enough to get taught DA methodology and I still shoot every revolver that way. Last season shot a Grouse out of a tree at 25 yards plus, no problem. In my old PPC days I could shoot 12 rounds in 6 seconds into a fist sized hole. Admittedly it was at minute of bad guy distance, but it was effective. And yes I would shoot .38 special most of the time but enough .357 to know how.
Glad you gained a little experience about revolvers and had some fun. Now go learn some proper usage and report back!
TTAG, please, please, please create a separate webpage that links to all of these DGU stories (like you do for gun reviews). It would be a great tool for reacting to gun grabber claims that good guys and girls with guns don’t exist.
With the two main DGU studies we’re all familiar with, what are the odds that the difference between the numbers in their conclusions is commensurate with the drop in violent crime over the time between them?
Defensive gun use does not only have to be of the two legged variety does it? Just in this year, two rabid raccoonns, three copper heads, and a blind deer that charged me. I could have probly let the snakes live but one bit my dog. So the wars on for them snakes
No longer an NRA member. There’s a gun lobby and there’s an anti-gun lobby. Both sides have billions so why do I need to donate to someone who has that amount of money and sends me junk mail to my house that I cant get them to stop sending.
If they stopped mailing all that crap they would save millions and a lot of trees also.
Modified semi automatic weapons? WTF does that actually mean? Paddock was by all official accounts a multi millionaire, with ‘.gov’ and at least some engineering background. How hard would it have been to purchase or have fabricated drop in auto sears?
Why ARs, much less 23 ARs in .556, and .308? With bump stocks, rather than simple drop in auto sears? Really? Was Paddock an AR snob, with no other resources? Logically, if you’re going for reliability, and want to use a bump stock – you want an AK platform, right? 7.62 X 39 Ammo is a bit heavier, but if you’re sneaking 4,000+ rounds, and hookers into your room in a freight elevator, over several days, who cares?
Paddock was a planner. Meticulous. Thorough. Purchased many, and no doubt trained with many high calibe semi auto rifles over more than 20 years, and then slapped bump stocks on them, and sprayed a crowd at 1,000+ yards, with 1 in 4 rounds reportedly finding a target, and in some cases multiple rounds hitting the same target (individual) at 1,000+ yards from ‘bump stocks’? Really?
No one saw this guy at the range, or in the desert, training, practicing? Ever? He just showed up on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay with 23 ARs, thousands of rounds of ammo, broke out a couple of windows, and went ‘postal’ on a concert crowd?
I just can’t buy it.
I don’t know about anyone else, but Taofledermaus annoys me on a couple levels.
1. California
2. He needs to bring a police officer along to shoot for him, either because the weapons they’re shooting/the ammo aren’t available to civilians, or the land they’re using is only open to officers, or some other reason.
I’ve nothing against police officers in general, and nothing against Greg in particular, but something about the whole show just rubs me the wrong way.
“Watch us[Law Enforcement] shoot this, so you don’t have to”
I don’t think that’s their intention and it’s entirely a personal thing, but I have that thought every time I find myself watching one of their videos.
Yup. As predicted politically ignorant absolutists would rather risk everything than give an inch on a stupid pointless accessory.
“21 century America, that’s pretty hard to find” Given how fast governments can flip out, I would say that is true anywhere and anytime. No matter how “good” a goverment is, I can guarantee you that given the correct circumstances, it can all go into the pot within a week. Give a country 5 years and it can do a complete 180.
I shot one of their carbon fiber barrels years ago, I’m a wood and steel guy, the carbon fiber pissed me off, shot to good, can’t, gotta be wood and steal. Damn technology
“…they’re believed to be a necessary measure to stop guns from falling into the wrong hands.”
Yes, well, that there is why the Second Amendment says “…shall not be infringed.” It does not provide the government the authority to decide whose hands are “the wrong hands”.
If you concede that the government that the Second Amendment was intended to allow you to protect yourself from has the authority to create, maintain and enforce lists of persons who, in the opinion of that same government, may not exercise their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms, how will you keep your name off of their lists?
6ish, Ruger .22 Bearcat and a Stevens .22 semiautomatic from the 40s. I took my children to the local Sheriff’s range and had them go through a gun safety course at 12 years old (a compromise with their mother, then sorta anti-gun now has her ccw permit, but that’s another story) then we shot once a month or so till they were married and now have their own lives, guns.
Quote———————–For some reason, the website had a difficult time finding any scientific evidence that background checks for firearms purchases do a damn thing to reduce firearms-related injuries and deaths. Maybe because there isn’t any?————————–quote——————–
Wrong on all counts. In Japan you are indeed allowed to own rifles and shotguns and through extreme vetting, background checks and registration and mandatory safe storage they have reduced firearms homicides to just about absolute zero. Its also worked well in many European Countries for decades in reducing crime and accidental deaths.
It is difficult to stop an enemy country from causing deaths in your own country but that is a war situation not having anything to do with laws designed to work with domestic crime and domestic mad men getting guns.
Perhaps these solons should just shut the front door and follow their fundraiser Harvey by masturbating into a potted plant. They’ll feel great and we won’t have to hear about their schemes.
Somewhere between 4 and 6 with BB’s and pellets. My cousins and I would spend time at my Grandparent’s house. Grandpa’s “babysitting” was leaning a sheet of plywood against the garage, setting out some old coffee cans, handing each of us a bb or pellet gun, and putting a box of bbs or tin of pellets between us. We were good for hours. He also taught us to whittle the same way; here is a stick and a sharp knife, always push the knife away from you, go.
I graduated to “my own” Winchester model 67 when I was 11.
You lost me in the first sentence. Anyone dumb enough to take a firearm and creep around their house at night without alerting the others doesn’t need a firearm of any type.
Adam’s love for the details is infectious. His one day builds on his YouTube channel are amazing to watch, and are chock full of information that was gleaned from experience.
PS would love to see Dyseptic Gunsmith do a show like that. Jet get a guy with a camera to film him work while he drops knowledge nuggets along the way.
I was 6. Dad bought the 100 year anniversary of the Win 1894 carbine in 30-30. I have that rifle now. Anyway I remember sitting on his lap and shooting cans with it. I had shot 22 rifle with him before that but the yellow boy made an impression.
I had a bb gun at 8 and my first real rifle a 22 at 12.
Meh…I generally don’t bother engaging fools. It’s akin to religion. Present the truth and WHY you believe. Most anti’s of both sorts usually can’t back up the “why”…
A class act that knows a misused tool was not responsible for what happened to him but rather an untreated, unrestrained mad man. Bravo Mr. Scalise, you may expect at least one out of state campaign contribution to support your re-election.
Didn’t we already read about this tool? How much more free publicity does this clown need?