In the video below, a “heavily armed” Antifa group marches through Phoenix, Arizona, much hilarity ensuing. JK. I can’t remember another open carry rally that seemed so  . . . dour. While I support any and all Americans exercising their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms, I wonder if this armed Antifa business will end in tears. At some point . . .

https://youtu.be/9ZSUymA8KF4

the two “sides” of the political spectrum will meet — while armed. History tells us that there could well be a negligent discharge leading to an exchange of fire. Or am I just another “heavily armed” right-wing paranoid insurrectionist?

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  1. Yep…when the twinks are triggered. We have a helluva’ lot more firepower than they do! 😎

    • “While I support any and all Americans exercising their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms”.

      Robert, Marxists are not Americans, they do not value Firearm Ownership as a right or means of self defense rather a means to advance tyranny over their victims.

      We need to psychically remove them from this nation.

      • Dude, I’m not in any way a fan of either ANTIFA or Marx but you really need to get a better grasp on their talking points before you find yourself getting spanked in a debate with someone who knows more about the subject than you;

        “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”
        -Karl Marx

        • Unfortunately, the vast majority of “Marxists” (both those who call themselves that, and those who get labeled that by Rightwing commentators) do not follow Marx’s teachings at all, just like a lot of “Christians,” “Jews,” and “Muslims” don’t follow their religions at all.

        • In practice, once the “revolution” takes charge, only the people approved by the revolution’s leaders will be able to carry arms. Everyone else must bow to the State and beg for protection.

        • I guess Lenin, Stalin and Mao all missed the memo on that one!! Every single one of them disarmed and slaughtered their own people. By they so did fascists like Hitler. Look at Cuba and Venezuela as well. Disarm the people first then roll over them. History is the best rebuttal to your alleged argument.

        • How can you talk to anyone that changes the meaning of words to fit their beliefs and are not referenced anywhere but their mind or beliefs. You want an intelligent conversation with someone who doesn’t know if they are male or female, and thinks that they’re right and will not listen to facts or accept reality?

      • Psychically remove them? You mean like using Mrs. Cleo? That spelling error made me laugh so hard. Physically is the word you were grasping at.

    • Until now, they’ve only brought pepper spray and condoms filled with urine and feces …

      … to a gunfight.

    • Tears isn’t exactly the “liquid” that I’m hoping for. It’s one thing for Antifa to have a presence in places like California or New York, where most folks can’t be armed in public. It’s quite another for these Liberal Terrorists™ to start marching in places where the Constitution is still in effect. I’ve been advocating for over a decade for a kinetic, Restorative War, that restores our country to the Constitutional Republic that our Founders intended. Hopefully this will lead to that. I’m so excited with anticipation that I can hardly stand it. Let’s get to “watering” the Tree of Liberty 🌲

  3. the two “sides” of the political spectrum will meet — armed.

    Nah. Just wait for them to start fighting among themselves over some obscure point of dogma.

    • A trap we seem to fall into around here from time to time….(admittedly often caused by people who are NOT of the gun)

    • Exactly! Get a heavily-armed group of Bernie-Bros toe to toe with a strapped-up gaggle of Kamala Harris professional victims, and just wait for anyone to say something non-PC, or to imply that socialism doesn’t work. Then sit back and watch the fur fly.

        • The only thing “comically warped” in his statement is the ridiculous notion that anyone in the group he described would ever say anything even slightly critical of socialism.

        • Unfortunately he really doesn’t. This is pretty typical of the vocal fringe that drives the Leftist ideology.

        • No, he’s quite correct. If you can observe the Left for a little while without gagging, it’s clear that they are turning on each other. The ideological purity tests are being administered. Anybody who fails gets labeled racist / sexist / homophobe / evil, as bad as anyone who believes in the ideas of the Right. The fact is that the SJW mindset contains the seeds of its own destruction. As soon as any one of them expresses a forbidden thought, the others turn on them and tear them apart like a pack of rabid wolves. Only the most pure will survive. For that reason, it is entirely possible that they will inflict violence on each other.

        • Republicans championed “ideological purity tests” in this country. RINO etc.

          In any case, infighting over some issues doesn’t mean that a united front cannot be presented on others. I’ve yet to see an armed liberal who would disagree with the notion that if right-wingers start shooting, we’re going to shoot back. Political disagreements tend to become negligibly minor, when both you and your opponent are facing an enemy who’s promising “free helicopter rides” to both of you.

  4. one round goes off for any reason in two opposing groups, and yes, it could be very bloody, very quickly. who would take the time to find out weather or not the first shot counted or not? in those shoes I wouldnt, it would become survival, and a true shoot first, ask questions later scenario.

    • should see the video they uploaded of them “training”

      i’d put a good bet on them being on the losing end of that gun battle

      • At least even odds that the first shot that goes off to set the whole place ablaze would be an ND by one of the “bernie bros.” 😀

    • A car backfires and those antifas will pee their pants and run off like roaches when you turn the light on.

  6. It happened at that very rally. There were armed pro trumpers marching right across from antifa… and neither side shot each other. I guess an armed society is a polite society after all.

    Also… anyone else think it’s hilarious that a bunch of people wearing brown shirts with red arm bands march around with guns claiming to be anti facists? Anyone? Bueller?

    • EXTEMELY ironic, to say the least. I often wonder if these people even know the definition of Fascism because it appears that they don’t.

      • “Fascist” to them is just another word in their box of pejoratives that they vomit out when they are confronted with the truth. It gets thrown in with “racist, sexist, homophobe and xenophobe.”

    • Oh, they’re clueless.

      I had to explain to one INS type how demanding “Your papers, please.” at internal, armed checkpoints while dressed in brown was not such a good look.

      The second most frequent response, after “Shut up. You suck.” goes “But, it’s different when we do it.” Rather than argue with they how it isn’t different, I’ve learned it is way more effective to put on my curious face and ask: “Different, how? What am I missing?”

    • Actually, its a good thing they are wearing the brown shirts and red arm bands… Makes it easier to ID the target when shit goes down…

      • My thoughts exactly. Super convenient that they chose to wear uniforms. Eqsy to pick out black masks and backpacks in the middle of the day LOL.

  9. If living two decades in an Ivy League college town has taught me anything about these people it’s that they’re so fractured and disjointed they can’t accomplish anything. I’ve lost count of how many rallies on the green and marches down Broad I’ve gone to gawk at that had no discernible purpose, cause or focus. They would devolve into a generic festival of the loons with booths and chanters arguing among themselves and yelling at each other. They hate each other more than they hate any perceived “opposition.”

    PCU comes to mind. Cause-heads then. Cause-heads now.

  11. The Red Army Faction (Baader Meinhof) evolved from a bunch of whiny young people who thought everything was fascist. I’m not saying that’s where we are, but these little commies have done that before.

    • If it aint funded and organized by KGB, it will fall apart. It happened to all the “peoples liberation movements” after the collapse of the USSR. These people arent within the spectrum of popular support necessary to sustain a movement. For every armed one of them, there are hundreds of thousands of armed us who ARE within a popular movement.

  12. Mwahahahahah — a running gun battle between well-armed Texans and a legion of Pajama Boys! This should be way more entertaining than Atomic Blonde.

    Where can I get tickets? I’ll write the review for TTAG.

    • If it does happen it will happen somewhere in the greater phoenix area. Of this I can guaruntee.

    • Then to take out after all who inspired and cheered the Antifa on. Then all foreign nations/entities/souls (and everything those parties stood for, and cherished) who were found to be hoping for a different outcome.

  13. without irony many wear brown shirts. remember the left ALWAYS project. but the incompetence remains. This rally was just a photo op really. the paid staff of political , “charitable”, and NGO organizations bought some props , got some basic handling tips and then called the press.

    they seem profoundly unserious.

    • “without irony many wear brown shirts.”

      minorest historical footnote: the “brown shirts” of the “brownshirts” were surplus, usless desert uniform pieces left over from WW1. Another government subsidy to a left-wing outfit.

        • I don’t think there is a forwards or backwards to the airsoft pellets that most of the guns from this march turned out to be loaded with.

  15. There is a world of difference between playing dress-ups and being armed and ready. With or without hot lead, these fools will dissolve into tears eventually.

  16. Don’t dismiss the antifa as a mere collection of Pajama Boys. There are a *lot* of useful idiots among them, sure — dupes who don’t realize they’re just crowd cover and cannon fodder.

    Do some reading on the Black Bloc. Antifa is the latest incarnation of what is at heart a terrorist movement. The question isn’t whether they’re capable of deadly violence, it’s only when they’ll get bold/desperate enough to go there.

      • Those new biodegradable corn based packing peanuts work for napalm or do you still need the old styrofoam ones?

        (To the BATF: it’s only for starting bonfires in my back yard)

        • Ronrico or Bacardi 151 rum to use with corn-based packing peanuts?

          You know the stuff, it has a flame arrestor on the opening of the bottle…

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacardi_151

          ” Bottles are also equipped with a stainless steel flame arrester crimped onto the neck of the bottle to prevent the rum inside the bottle from igniting, in case a consumer ignores the warnings and applies the rum to a source of ignition (e.g. a flaming pan or dish, a flambé). Despite the warnings against ignition and the flame arrester, consumers have claimed to have been burned by people who ignored repeated warnings, removed the flame arrester, and exposed the bottle to an open flame.”

        • Oh yeah, watched a dude light his drunken face on fire with a bottle of Everclear raging like a goddamn Meker burner.

        • Went to make a batch of Mai Tai’s for the Eclipse weekend, and was sooo disappointed to find out that Bacardi has DC’d 151. Had to go with an off brand.

    • Agree with you on the Black Bloc. Those cockroaches are perfectly able-bodied people who have been skulking around the Pacific Northwest for decades. Think the Seattle riots during the WTO event in 1999. Those guys caused some serious mayhem and damage. Another piece of their work is driving spikes into redwoods before the loggers come through. These cockroaches are not to be confused with the snowflakes of today.

      Of course, they are far outnumbered.

      • Black Blocs are not a monolithic group. They have various causes that range from abortion to anarchist political views.

        That said, the ones with less esoteric positions are generally more serious and shouldn’t be casually dismissed. They’re smart, they’re organized and they’ve been at this quite a while. They’ve also learned a lot from the European Blocs. When police in Canada tried to infiltrate a Black Bloc “demonstration” they were immediately busted because they were all wearing the same duty boots.

        That’s attention to detail right there. These people ain’t stupid.

    • Antifa isn’t a new thing. I was getting in scuffles with these idiots twenty-five years ago when I was still a hot-headed youngster. They trace their lineage back about a century, though here in the US they have existed for about twenty-five to thirty years. They are an offshoot of an older organization called Anti Racist Action.

  17. “the two “sides” of the political spectrum will meet — while armed. History tells us that there could well be a negligent discharge leading to an exchange of fire.”

    Assuming no innocents are killed, sounds like a win-win to me.

    Modest proposal: A thunderdome-like structure we throw all the nation’s Antifas and alt-righties into.

    • I hate to tell you but the Alt-Right includes basically everyone who is conservative/Right leaning, but isn’t a supporter of the entrenched mainstream Republican establishment. It isn’t just the neo-Nazi types who have adopted the moniker. A huge percentage of conservatives under the age of thirty consider themselves part of the alt-right. They are a tremendous part of the reason Hillary isn’t in office right now. They aren’t threatening anyone, burning books, trying to deny people their First Amendment rights or anything else these leftist Antifa types are doing. They are done with the mainstream Republican establishment, and rightfully so. I wouldn’t be so quick to run them down or dismiss them.

      • The Panzer IV can’t take MG42s, haha. The barrel change method doesn’t quite work with the co-ax and front hull mounts. But, it should be more suitable for running over commies, so there’s that.

      • Until it became an mg3 in 7.62 nato. W. Germany was using those and H&K rifles in the same caliber back when I was a young man in my uncle’s employ.

  19. “Will Armed Antifa Marches End in Tears?” WE CAN HOPE & CHANGE

    LOVE, Love, love how THE VERY EXISTENCE OF communism and socialism is denied (B. Commie Red Sanders notwithstanding) before the election and now they are coming out of the woodwork.

    THE U.S. HAS DEDICATED ITSELF (its time, tools, talents, and treasure) TO ERADICATING COMMUNISM WHEREVER WE FIND IT. Let not this sh_t be any different.

    • Political ideology aside, we lost a lot of good men fighting wars that were none of our business, often propped up murderous dictators, and helped create a lot of the hostility that exists today in our misguided efforts to stop the spread of communism. I’m not in favor of fighting other people’s political battles. We should defend our allies and ourselves and avoid intervention in foreign countries except as part of true international interventions to stop genocide or other massacres.

      • It’s not misguided to project power. And the U.S. didn’t decide that, human nature did. Caesar codified it in his Commentarii de Bello Gallico. The Pax Romana was 10 years of peace derived from 10 prior years of kicking ass on your neighbors.

        And yes, better dead than communist red. Kill a commie for mommy.

    • “Political ideology aside”

      No. We beat the MFs ’til they say uncle, then we try to rebuild what’s left and get the same floating turds. Gotta go against the ideology too, with a torch, shovel, and rake.

      And power projection builds peace. We didn’t decide that. Human nature did. Caesar codified it in his Commentarii de bello Gallico. The Pax Romana (ten years of peace) cost [exactly] ten years of prior war.

      • Let me be clear, I am not a supporter of oppressive, single-party communist governments, but I am also not for waging wars in other countries at massive costs both in terms of finances and American and foreign lives if their governments do not pose a direct threat to the safety of our own country. If they are committing mass atrocities, we should be engaged as part of the international community. It is not our responsibility to police the world.

        The Cold War was a disaster for many nations around the world as we propped up dictators and unpopular, brutal governments. Many of the communist parties/forces had the support of the people. Our forcing other leaders on them was clearly contradictory to our claims of being pro-democracy and our value of self-determination. In terms of us “winning” and bettering the world fighting communism, most of the countries we waged wars or proxy wars in either ended up becoming communist any way, retained other forms of oppressive government, and continued to be violent and unstable. I doubt any of us want to go live in Guatemala, El Salvador, Afghanistan, etc.

  22. Anyone find the narrator a bit annoying?
    What is he exposing?

    Is he Brit Michael Moore?

    People have died and demonstrated for this.

  24. Make me king for a day and I’ll show these dandies what fascism really is. Or, at least what I’ve read it’s all about.

  25. Is the whole “anti-fa” thing played out by now. I expected it would be before the end of the summer, and that seems to be the case. Of course, there’s just not much of that in Texas anyway.

    • Antifa has been active in the US for about thirty years now, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but their numbers are increasing exponentially in Austin right now. They have been threatening venues and attacking patrons of establishments who try to host bands they disapprove of.

  27. “It would be well for your government to consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity… is inherently DANGEROUS. Wars have begun that way, Mr. Ambassador.”

    • Absolutely LOVED Red October – both the film and the book. Fictional, yes… but there’s a lot of truth in them.

    • “Mr. Ambassador, you have nearly a hundred naval vessels operating in the North Atlantic right now. Your aircraft has dropped enough sonar buoys so that a man could walk from Greenland to Iceland to Scotland without getting his feet wet.”

  28. I’ve never seen anything like this in Phoenix – I live nearby. These libs were trying to intimidate a large group of unarmed Trump supporters across the street, along with some guy simply trying to interview them. Absolute douchebags, doubt their guns were even loaded. They were REALLY nervous – had a firecracker gone off… the Trump supporters would have likely gunned them down.

    • Those fat-bottomed broads would have shit themselves if things actually kicked off. They are playing dress-up, and that’s a dangerous game when facing off with people who have been actively preparing for SHTF for most of their lives.

  30. You know what I just thought of? The antifa movement’s central tenet is anonimity. If shots ring out, how will they know who’s even on their side?

    • This animal and the Berniebot that shot Scalise are at most a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percentile among their number. Very few if any of these lilly-white, rich, suburban NEETs actually have the courage of their convictions to actually take a beating or die for their beliefs. Just look at any video where rally-goers actually put up a fight against these proto-fascists. They scattered like the roaches they are.

      I highly doubt the Old Guard black bloc is going to teach them a damn thing — they’re in it for themselves, too. They probably don’t like these bitchy little snowflakes any more than we do.

  32. Q: Will armed “AntiFa” marches end in tears?

    A: Only if they want them to, such that they are wont to instigate confrontation wherever they go. Naturally, the tears that will be shed will be theirs, as well.

    Next question.

  33. Didn’t one of these armed antifa marches get called out for bringing fake guns? I can’t remember if it was here or another website that covered it.

  34. Isn’t this the same rally where it was revealed these douchecanoes were carrying around airsoft guns? Yeah, I’m quakin’ in my boots at the prospect of potentially having to fight these low-T soyboys.

    • why would you even have to fight them?

      if the police woild do their damn job in places like Berkely, they would arrest and prosecute these douchebags as soon as they start breaking windows and assaulting people. problem solved.

      • the top law enforcement officials are political appointments . they don’t want the problem to go away. their political party is creating this , so no , they won’t arrest the thugs their party is organizing and funding.

        • regardless of the reason, if the cops aren’t arresting violent douchebags then the cops aren’t doing their job.

  35. brown-shirt “anti-fascists” aren’t very introspective, are they

    they really should call themselves the “anti-fascist fascists.”

  36. Unfortunately, the reporter wasn’t very good, his heart might have been in the right place, but he really wasn’t very good at establishing the basic facts … the specifics of who, what, when, where …. names, license plate numbers, weapon types, and so on.

  37. What’s “antifa” stand for? Anti-Fascists? Only good fascist is a dead fascist so seems good to be anti-fascist right?

    • well, except for one little problem: ANTIFA are the REAL fascists.

      it’s like the mexican mafia calling themselves the neighborhood safety watch.

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