“There’s probably no industry that better epitomizes the way that corporate greed leads to ruined lives than the gun industry. That’s what the Sandy Hook lawsuit is about: The gun industry lobbies for weak restrictions and heavily markets guns to people with ugly power fantasies, which is why mass shootings happen so frequently in our country.” – Amanda Marcotte in CALCULUS: The NRA Spent Thousands to Get Bernie Elected — Then He Voted With Them [at bluenationreview.com]
People with ugly power fantasies… Isn’t she talking about politicians in general?
I’d kinda like to see that marketing causes mass shootings study. Obviously she is referencing a compelling one or she would not have made such a statement. I know that on those rare occasions that I do catch a glimpse of TV or radio firearms industry ads are all I see and hear.
Socialists claim that all the choices and advertising waste resources. /sarc on/ So Bernie would fix that marketing problem, too. Why do we need to choose between 50,000 different kind of shoes? You want a gun? Here’s your single shot 20 gauge. What more do you need? And since that’s the only one made, we don’t need to advertise to compete. And it’s cheaper this way, cause competition brings out the worst in people which costs hurt feelings. /sarc off/
Study the 2nd Amendment sheep. Without it all other rights could disappear.
Show me one direct quote where Bernie says anything even remotely as retarded as you make it sound like he does.
I can tell you the marketing that causes mass murders. It’s real simple it’s called CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. Them running 50,000 hours of it every time there is a shooting promoting these monsters to celebrity status is why a lot of this happens. Think about how many shootings in theaters made the news before and after Aurora Colorado. You may as well be saying “have a mcmurder kind of day”
Pretty sure that 24/7 news coverage of every mass shooting and glorification of the perpetrator can be blamed for quite a few more killings than any stupid firearm industry ad campaign.
Though I guess that’s advertising too.
Well, politicians of both parties, as well as leftists, in general, are the ones with the “ugly power fantasies”.
Which is why most mass shooters in our country have been leftists; whether you are speaking of those in government, or in the general population.
Well, I’d call totalitarianism is an ugly power fantasy. It appears the only acceptable ugly power fantasies are one where progressives yield ultimate power and control. No wonder our progressives had to quash the green revolution in Iran (envious of the Mullahs’ power).
+1000! You nailed it. One of the central conceits of the hard left is that their authoritarianism is somehow “rational” while liberty and freedom are somehow irrational. Marx called this “false consciousness” which always reminded me of scene in “Cool Hand Luke” where the warden tells Luke he needs to “get his mind right”. This woman is like that.
LOL!!!!!!
That sentence is a hot mess.
I think she’s talking about herself. She has an ugly power fantasy to send armed agents of the State to arrest or kill her political adversaries. Projection is a hellova thing.
Reading left wing sites leads to one inescapable conclusion – these people have no idea the Constitution or the Bill of Rights even exist.
The constitution is just a dusty piece of parchment written by a bunch of old rich, racist, bigoted, mysogynist and slave owning white guys. At least, that is how the leftists/statists see it.
Of course, just as in any revolution, the new bosses are usually more tyrannical, lawless and blood thirsty than what was replaced. Hence, the fifty million, and counting, of the murdered unborn; the routine violation of established law and the tyranny of thought control in academia and the press by the politically correct.
I can understand that they dislike any infringement on government power, but I find it interesting that when you listen in to them talking among themselves you don’t hear them pondering how to get around the Constitution, It’s like they don’t even know it exists. I guess they assume that everybody else feels the same way they do except those rubes in flyover country, but they seem completely unaware that they’re outnumbered.
Jesus Effin’ Christ, Dan, is your finger on the trigger while you rack the slide?
Please tell me that you know that’s not Dan.
Talk about your ugly fantasies….
Never mind 🙂
Hal,
I believe that small picture is a frame-grab of John Goodman in a movie … which would mean it is NOT a photo of Dan.
Secret lives of the hollywood elite running gun blogs?
“The Big Lebowski”
As Roseann Rosannadanna says, “Never Mind”
Still, is it a good idea to use an example of poor gun handling as an avatar?
Forget it, Hal, you are OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!!
I walked right into that one, for sure.
Nonetheless, I still wonder why there is an example of unsafe gun handling as an avater.
From the post:
“Bernie Sanders voted for the Gekas Amendment to the Brady Bill. [H R 1025, Vote #559, 11/10/93; CQ Floor Votes, 11/10/93]
This three-day default proceed, also known as the Charleston loophole, allowed Dylan Roof to obtain a gun. [New York Times, 7/11/15]”
Let’s put this into language a prog can understand: Let’s say that abortions needed government permission to perform. So a woman wants an abortion and she ask the government for permission, but due to bureaucratic delays the permission doesn’t come for ten months. Now, is this an unfortunate delay or an infringement on a perceived right?
Could old George Gekas. He was my districts rep for many years. I always wondered if he did anything worthwhile.
I am so sick of leftist propaganda. Is there anything other lies and excrement that come out of these people?
The interesting thing about this idea (of corporate greed driving gun-rights legislation) is that even if a major gun-maker wanted to advocate for gun control, the consumers really force their hand. They know that if they step out of line, the backlash from buyers will be swift and severe. Ask S&W. We actually insist that our gun-makers support our political beliefs. It absolutely is a grassroots movement, even when the industry gets involved.
“There’s probably no industry that better epitomizes the way that corporate greed leads to ruined lives …” – Amanda Marcotte
Ms. Marcotte,
I am confused. Are you referring to the “corporate greed” that pays the annual salaries of untold tens of millions of people in our nation? How is a corporation the likes of Boeing, Ford Motor Company, Chase Bank, Coca-cola Products, Gordon Foods, Sysco Foods, Federal Express Shipping, your local heating and cooling contractor, your local taxi service, or your local landscaping company — who provide income for their employees — ruining lives?
Do you want to know what is really ruining lives? It is people like you who never take personal responsibility for your life — who always blame someone or something else for your problems and always look for someone or something else to fix your problems.
The gun industry is so powerful and wealthy. Quick call uncle Mikey. Sarc/
And we, as 5 million of people in NRA, paid thousands, (OMG thousands!) to help get Sanders elected. Meanwhile uncle Mike – one guy – paid about $360,000 to keep bunch of crooks from being recalled in Colorado.
So, He-Who-Shall-Remain-Nameless shot up a school because his mother bought guns, because she had an “ugly power fantasy”, which forced her to buy a Bushmaster when Bushmaster’s advertising took advantage of her “ugly power fantasy”??? Damn, lady, you’re snorting stronger stuff than Mayor Berry or President Obama ever used.
Did you know free black men could vote before women (1920). 95 years of equality leads directly to Hillary Clinton and 62 women democrats, a two thirds majority over republican women. For this accomplishment we get murdered unborn sold for body parts and assaults on citizen rights to lawfully protect themselves. Then we must endure the insane logic of women telling us the second amendment is outdated while limiting number of cartridges, and what a rifle should look like. This empowerment then leads to articles pointing out the fact that politicians vote by the amount of coin a lobby group gives. Perhaps she should write an article about Planned Parenthood. The taking of citizens half billion dollars to murder poor black unborn while shuttling millons to democrats. The irony of taking away our right to lawful self defense while feverishly funding the murder of unborn boggles the mind.
She’s a nut who was a part of the Edwards 2008 campaign. If one googles her, one will see her outrageous positions. It’s telling that the Democrats continue to give her a speaking platform, like the website cited in this post, instead of shunning her. On their issues, there is no “extremism.” There is no “too far” in their leftism.
+1. Her statements on the Duke Lacrosse hoax case were so over the top that even the NYT took notice, and led to her purge from the Edwards campaign. Learning absolutely nothing from that experience, she went on to be one of the loudest apologists for the UVA Rolling Stone hoax, again sticking with the narrative long after the hoax had been definitively exposed.
That the media gives her the time of day speaks volumes about the quality of the media.
She is the poster child for my calls to repeal the 19th Amendment.
Do you think she knows I always wanted to be Superman so I could take over the world?
I just wanted his x ray vision.
Bla, just another dumb kunt.
I’m sure you’re angry at her ignorance.
She needs to learn about correlation and causation.
Calling her a “misspelled slang genital” actually plays into their skewed perception of us.
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To call her ignorant is to wrongly excuse her behavior.
She’s a fraud.
@ H: Don’t bother, the guy’s kind of a troll. When he’s not making blatantly misogynist statements like this he’s talking about shooting government officials in other-than-theoretical terms.
Ocasionally I type something positive about Ruger.
Just to be complete/accurate.
Thanks for the wave off!!
It is a sad statement that this sort of intellectual laziness can pass for truth and reality. Simple explanations for simple minds, I guess.
The quote reminds me of my ex-wife who “doesn’t believe in guns” – despite the fact that I assured her they were quite real. Wife v2.0, on the other hand, knows to grab bricks of CCI when she sees it for less than $7.00…
“Wife v2.0, on the other hand, knows to grab bricks of CCI when she sees it for less than $7.00…”
Please tell me where you are seeing bricks of CCI for $7.00…
And where I can meet someone like his wife 2.0…
So THAT’S what that feeling is… I thought it might be a bit of gas from the green chile pizza last night, but clearly it is an ugly power fantasy.
Great quote, repeated again. Irving Kristol once said, “When we lack the will to see things as they really are, there is nothing so mystifying as the obvious.”
Bad crime. Bad actors. Evil exists. And so on. Defend yourself – or not – but don’t even dare to reduce my ability to defend what is important to me.
Car ads often show cars exceeding the speed limit and doing maneuvers that would get you a hefty fine and/or jail time if performed on a public street. Yet, somehow, most people manage to drive in a fairly reasonable fashion.
My power fantasies aren’t ugly at all. They’re filled with van de Graaff generators and tesla coils doing kinky things to voltage regulators. As power fantasies go, I think they’re the opposite of ugly.
POS (D) with power issues, working for satan, need to have free speech taken from them. Better get their guns first, it’ll be easier.
The Clinton Machine is fascinating to watch. Marcotte’s piece forced the gun control issue into a racial issue, and thus how Sanders was doing a poor job on race because of his stance on guns. And this came out just as Bill Clinton was starting to torpedo Hillary’s campaign by arguing with BLM protesters. This piece was a fast pivot.
Cruise around that bluenationreview site. There is a whole lot of extremist wacko progtard delusion there. If not a Klinton site is certainly in the tank fro the witch. Crazy Bernie better stay clear of any parks.
Will I need to disinfect afterwards?
Just a procedural question here. The Marcotte quote here is originally from her piece in salon dot com, found here:
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/06/bernies_giant_misfire_on_guns_his_tone_deaf_position_on_sandy_hook_lawsuit_should_open_democrats_eyes/
Is it proper to give the quote to the blue nation review site, or would it have been better to link to the original?
I try very hard not to give page views / credibility to either of those sites.
The only “ugly” thing I can see is your ugly……nevermind, don’t want this deleted as an “ad-hom” attack.
Well I am of the opinion that your power fantasy of controlling other people is the ugliest, most repugnant fantasy of them all.
She should realize that concealed carry is all about protecting yourself from the deranged sicko who has forgotten to take his meds and is going on a rampage. People carrying guns for self protection are not riding a power fantasy. They are trying not to be the victim of one.
“There’s probably no industry that better epitomizes the way that corporate greed leads to ruined lives than the gun industry.”
Oh so we’re not going to talk about the medical industry in general and big pharma in particular, directly causing the majority of bankruptcies in this country? The greed of corporate bankers? (remember predatory lending back in the aughts?) How about tobacco? Alcohol? Junk food/soda? How the auto industry made Jaywalking a crime so that people could drive faster? Oil companies? The entire diamond industry?
Plenty of ruined lives to go around.
The original article by Susan Mandrake (or something like that) equates “pure progressivisim” with an anti-gun stance, and that therefore only Clinton is “pure.” Gotcha. Where’d she come up with that nonsense?
And where is all of this gun manufacturing advertising? I am more likely to learn something about a new gun from reading a review than from reading or seeing advertising–which only shows on cable stations you have to pay extra for. The manufacturer’s web sites are hardly advertising, and I go to those to get deets and models, not to be sold.
This woman is as dangerous to free people as the Sandy hook shooter. She will prevent anyone from defending themselves and their loved ones, wherever they may be. Work, home, public transportation etc.
‘thousands’? hahaha!
I caught that, too. Amanda Marcotte just had a Dr. Evil moment.
Amanda Marcotte is a professional troll. Anything with her byline should be ignored.
It’s worth pointing out that the whole “gun industry lobby” narrative is basically a red herring. The NRA is by far the largest gun-rights lobby group, and its funding and its clout comes overwhelmingly from individual gun-owning members, not the gun industry. It’s the gun owners lobby, and it hasn’t got a damned thing to do with “corporate greed”.
What is this? A ploy to get me to like “nobody needs assault weapons” Bernie because he is somehow pro-gun? Not going to happen.
Yep, I have an “ugly power fantasies” where I can defend myself and loved ones against armed thugs, psychotic mass shooters, terrorists, drug cartels, mobs seeking “social justice,” or a government who finds me objectionable because I might dare challenge tyranny.
I got an ugly power fantasy for her
In the picture she looks quite serious. Is she married? She looks like she needs to have some fun with a bucket of crisco, fireclean, or k-y. I rectum mend that for her everyday, not just anallie.
Spell check error. Delete delete
What power fantasy? I relish the thought of shooting another person about as much as i get excited waiting for fire to break out in my house so that I can use my extinguisher.
Other than that, I like shooting paper and steel at the range for fun.
Well, first Amanda Marcott is the leading current occupant of the McKinnon / Dworkin wing of a particular kind of bat-guano crazy agenda-mongering. She’s the kind that gives that kind a bad name.
On-point, as if it was needed, 1) You can’t sell things people don’t want to buy, 2) Gun-rights organizations are funded by individuals, 3) If wielding a gun is so dangerous, the power isn’t a fantasy. 3.1) They’re called “equalizers” precisely because having one balances the physical power of a situation. For realz. 4) If whackjobs are so persuadable, maybe we should look to mental health screening, and not so much to guns.
There is, indeed no other industry that better illustrates the damage caused by people making crap up to feed ugly class, group, privilege fantasies. How many lives are ruined because they, for example, face down a robbery, disarmed because of ant-gun delusions?
I see that she’s conveniently ignored corporate welfare, especially in the financial sector where it has ruined many tens of millions of lives. Just in the last decade. Not just in America, either.
And counting.
HAHA the manjawed c@nt is engaged in psychological projection.
BTW, this is the beyatch who is behind all of the twatter censoring.
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