Random Thoughts About Germany’s Mass Sex Attacks

1. Funny, “sharia law” mighta fixed that.

   Funny too, haven’t heard of anyone fleeing here (U.S.) in droves. Ever.

   There are a lot of un-sh_tty places in the world, and if we’re not careful, muslims will wreck them too.

   You could say that’s bigoted, but FU.

   • . . . hard.

     • In recent discussions, folks have said to me “not all Muslims/refugees/North Africans are rapists.”

       True. But all THESE were.

       Face all the women victims who have had their lives shattered (forever) and explain your position to them.

       • Is it just me, or does anyone else note the brainless response of the progressive? Not all mohammedians are rapists, but let just one gun owner make a mistake and all gun owners are subject to clamor for gun confiscation?

         “Only error requires government support. Truth will stand on its own.”
         – Tommy Jefferson (a long time ago)

   • I realize Conservatives have a mortal fear of watching foreign news media as they at all costs are worried they just might enhance their education in regards to what is not only going on in the world but what is going on in their own country i.e. the U.S. You mention no one is leaving the U.S. in droves, well you are obliviously not aware that many professional people, engineers, doctors and recently graduated college students are doing just that, leaving the U.S. for good and not looking back.

     One American Doctor interviewed on France24 News is now living in Italy and says he will not return to the U.S. because of the lawsuits that made being in the Medical Profession in the U.S. just to costly for him. France24 News interviewed a former American woman who says that although the cost of living is high in France she now considers herself French and is enjoying the superior social benefits of being a French Citizen such as free health care, free medicine, free education for her children (in the U.S. graduating students often owe over 1/4 million dollars) 4 weeks vacation the day you start work, 2 hours for lunch and a work week that is less than 40 hours long. Many students in journalism are now working abroad as well as recently graduated teachers who cannot make a living at the low starvation wages and union busting tactics such as the shenanigans pulled and passed by the current Republican Governor of Ohio Kasich who destroyed quality education in Ohio to save money.

     In one story featured on French24 News the French workers at a Home Depot type store in Paris were protesting they wanted more Sunday work because in most of the city it is illegal to work Sundays except in areas that cater to tourists. Why did they want to work on Sunday? Well this will change your mind about how great America is to live in. In France those workers are paid the equivalent of $33.00 an hour to work on Sunday as compared to the worker slave state of the U.S. were Home Depot workers, Wal-Mart troglodytes etc can only hope to get part time work with no benefits and few if any holidays. Many U.S. troglodytes are now working 3 minimum wage jobs and still qualify for welfare so they can keep from freezing to death in the winter or starving to death. All this is proves that welfare people far from being lazy sponges on society are actually out there working. The filthy rich get the tax breaks so that the worker slaves must foot all the tax burdens to pay for what little social programs the U.S. doles out at an obscene miserly rate.

     The good news is that with the large influx of refugees from war torn drug gang South American countries are now working illegally in the U.S. which makes crooked U.S. Businessmen ecstatic because they have a large pull of slave labor who works for less than minimum wage with of course no benefits. Illegals pay into Social Security which bolsters it because they are not edible to collect it and they do not get tax refunds on the taxes played into State, Local and Federal governments. Think about that next time you bad mouth illegals. Now you know why Republicans and Businessmen want no immigration reform, they would lose too much money if a worker guest program were passed making them pay at least minimum wage and worker’s comp and other benefits,

     • We’re not ignoring you-no one thinks Euro-socialism is sustainable or workable. That 33bucks an hour has to come from somewhere. And I’ll keep my guns and my modicum of freedom thank you. Thanks for trolling!

       • Strange German Socialism under Bismarck in 1886 has been doing just fine for well over one hundred years. I think this proves Socialism is quite sustainable.

     • “…You mention no one is leaving the U.S. in droves, well you are obliviously not aware that many professional people….. are doing just that, leaving the U.S. for good and not looking back…”

       Do you not know what the word “droves” means? Sure you can always find a few isolated people who leave the US for France (I’d be curious to find out how many have previous ties to France) but people certainly are not leaving in “droves”. I know a lot of professional people. Not one of them or anyone they know has ever mentioned leaving the US for France. Some work abroad with their companies, but plan on coming home. A friend of mine had to do a stint in France as that’s where his parent company was located. He couldn’t wait to get back to the US.

       • The word “drove” is precisely the correct word to use. Many younger people who have indeed been sent overseas do not come back when they get a good taste of the tremendous social benefits of some of the advanced European countries and the plethora of holidays (usually at least 30 as compared to zero for most working class Americans) and the long vacation time (4 weeks the day you start work). Not to mention free National Health Care and free Education for themselves and their children. Many have told me the relaxed work atmosphere is such a welcome change compared to the harsh, dictatorial, and cruel and part time hectic work pace in American where worker protection by unions has all but become extinct and the resulting low wage worker slave culture that is a horrific result.

         And ever notice how many American News Commentators are now working in as far away countries like Japan and even China let alone the many that now work in Europe such as France24 News and DW News.

     • The oft quoted figure for student loan debt is an average of $30k. I think that is low considering one semester at a state school is starting to cost around $20k on average. But $250k is quite high for an average and is a number typically left to people who become doctors, lawyers, or continue on through graduate school (and even then that is high depending on the program).

       Hell I messed around for 6 years in college and ended up leaving with $80k in debt. That’s nothing to sneer at but my longer than typical stay still nets me at 1/4 of that $250k.

       • My heart goes out to anyone that has to pay back that much money and remember if you had lived in a European country you would not have owed anything. Remember too we have tens of thousands of kids that have given up on college altogether because of the debt they know they will have with no guarantee they will find a job in their chosen fields. Lets face cold hard facts if small European countries can finance higher education do you think the U.S. which is many cases is 50 times larger could not do the same if it were not for the Republicans who blocked even Obamas attempt to give a small amount of money towards tuition fees for college students.

         • It’s hard to say you don’t owe anything or aren’t on the hook for anything when your taxes subsidize your and everyone elses education.

           That doesn’t excuse the state of things here where IMO many kids are being sold on the lie that they need to go to college and less attention is given to trade school. So what you end up with is lots of students like me who can’t cut it in or have no interest in a science field going for liberal arts degrees who end up completing college to just get something for their money. IMO the whole things is structured to make money rather than focus on education and it discourages and heavily penalizes quitting so you end up with a gazillion people in liberal arts degrees like me that don’t stay in academia to do much anything with them.

           Another useful tidbit of info they leave out is what do you do when you run out of credit after only 1.5 or 2 years in school? They don’t tell you anything because unless you can produce a new cosigner there is nothing you can do many times. It happened to me, but I was fortunate enough to have an aunt who cosigned for me.

           In regards to paying what you owe, I have no problem with that. I was the one there for 6 years making the good and bad choices, no one else. I don’t expect anyone else to pay for it but me regardless of the value it actually brought me. I don’t expect something for nothing. Even knowing what I know now, I’d still do it the same because what I got instead of an education directly applicable to the real world I wouldn’t trade away for less debt.

           • —————-Quote: It’s hard to say you don’t owe anything or aren’t on the hook for anything when you taxes subsidize your and everyone elses education. Quote—————————————————-

             I disagree, this is exactly what we should be doing and we would have plenty of money to do so if we had not become the new 21st century Nazi’s pouring all of our tax money down the shit hole of war with conquest, rape and pillage. What is even more obscene is that many other countries are smart enough to get us to protect them while they laugh all the way to the bank and give their children free education. Boy what suckers we have become.

       • We’ll have to agree to disagree on the being on the hook or not part then as I simply don’t see it your way.

         Regardless of how either of us see it, we pay for it one way or the other. Not all costs can be measured in terms of dollars for any policy decision we make.

         • History has proven you wrong many times over. The worst thing a nation can do is screw its children out of a higher education as wasting young minds only puts us farther and farther behind in the world wide economic race. That’s economics 101. Lets face cold hard facts when small European countries have found a way to educate their children its time for us to override the cheap ass Republican prostitutes and allocate money for our children’s education funded by the State. If we do not take a look at the ruins of the Roman Empire we are already 75 per cent there.

       • We are saying the same thing here. We simply differ on implementation and where and with whom the responsibility lies.

         • NO we are not saying the same thing at all. My take is that it should in no way fall on the student to finance his education period. This is the way the entire rest of the civilized industrial world works and its the best way.

           Right now the mambe pambe Socialist France has higher industrial output per worker than even Germany or the U.S. It had start up new technology businesses of over 1,000 this last year beating out the U.S. France is a thriving industrialized state still far smaller and less wealthy than the U.S. but it takes care of its people and we do not. We only take care of greed monger businessmen who rape our people and enslave them in economic poverty. This does not mean that we cannot do better or that we cannot move into the 21st century with Socialized Medicine and Socialized education. We can assure our children they will have a future in a modern industrial country or relegate them to economic poverty in an ever increasing society that is headed for a third world standard of living with the rich controlling all the wealth and our government while the working people are relegated to living on minimum wage,as uneducated, unskilled troglodytes and we are not far from that right now. NO one I repeat no one that grew up in the 40’s , 50’s and 60’s would argue about how bad things have become for the working people in America today. Wages and purchasing power slashed, benefits almost nonexistent, retirement programs done away with, medical coverage by employer’s reduced or non- existent by relegating them to part time of 39.9 tenths hours or less, vacations a thing of the past and holidays taken away from most Americans and even when they had them they amounted to just a few days a year compared to 30 holidays in Europe and 6 weeks vacation now in France (4 weeks the day you start work). And the uneducated brainwashed Conservative makes a fool out of himself when he quotes the old adage “America is still the best place to live”. What an obscene joke.

   • It’s called an orgy, not mass sex.

2. According to the left media this is just a hoax and nothing of the sort is happening.

   Also we have always been at war with Eastasia.

   • Well, the media themselves are getting a real taste of Islam:

     http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f4f_1453549734

     https://youtu.be/26TcZorLdok

3. The Friekorps will be back because like early post WWI Germany, the government is unable/unwilling to maintain law and order. Look at the bright side, Jews will be welcome in the new SA.

   • Probably not, as it’s the Jews who have been championing all these immigration programs.

     • No they have not since they are one the primary targets of Muslim attacks throughout Europe. You need to update your bigotry.

   • Unfortunately no, Jews will actually be the first victims being caught between the Moor invaders and a vengeful EU which WILL blame the Jews for the Muslim behavior. Mark my words. Anti Semitism is already on the rise, as Europeans blame Israel and the Zionists for the current Mid East crisis. Already, we have had the attacks on the Jews in France, which were attempted to be covered up, and were largely ignored. It is for this reason Jews are smartly beginning to flee Europe. I hope they all get out before it’s too late.

     • You are only right about one thing. Yes it is true Jews are leaving Europe for Israel but not for the reasons you stated. France24 News has shown that most attacks against Jews in Europe are actually coming from European radical right wing Whites, not Muslims. Its only the few Muslim attacks that get all the sensational news. Long before the Charlie Hebdo attack or the recent Friday the 13th attack which killed 130 people Jews were fleeing Europe in droves because of “White” Right Wing groups in Europe who are also attacking Gypsies as well. When France24 News interviewed the Right Wing People they proudly stated it was their goal to drive all Jews out of Europe. Recently German police finally caught the last of a German Right Wing Group that was killing Jews, Gypsies, and foreign immigrants at random. Just a few weeks ago there was a Right Wing rally in Poland where they burned an effigy of a Hanseatic Jew.

       • What else did France24 News have to say, pray tell?
         As someone who grew up in socialist (you would call it comunist) country and remembers free education, free medical care and all the other great stuff government gives you “free”, all I say is TANSTAAFL!
         You like France so much? What is holding you here?

         • What is holding me here. Why I am hoping you leave so that people like me can make the U.S. a more civilized country to live in when we emulate the social benefits many European countries have had for decades, countries often 50 times smaller and far less rich but somehow they have figured a way to take care of their people and afford it as well considering that the Socialist State of Germany is one of the richest countries not only in Europe but in the world with France a close second.

       • Oh please. So your “countries” defend themselves, or do they look to the US for their very survival?

         Yeah. That’s what I thought.

         They have simply taken the defense budget and repurposed it for healthcare.

         Don’t get me wrong. we spend waayyyy too much on healthcare, for outcomes that are not even in line with what the world generally gets. All that said, the US still is the better model.

         • What a laugh your statement is in regards as the U.S. being the better country in regards to medical care. We are ranked 41st in child mortality even below some 3rd world African countries. http://singularityhub.com/2011/09/08/us-child-mortality-rates-rank-41st-in-the-world/

           Retired people in the U.S. are going bankrupt because corrupt U.S. drug companies have caps on coverage and charge obscene astronomical prices for drugs while civilized European countries have free medical coverage.

       • I think you missed OPs point. He’s not worried about the muslims its the rising anti semitism that is perpetraited by “right wing” persons. The issue is that with rising perception of violence by foreigners people are turning to these groups to try and solve the problem. Anti semitism is just getting caught up in the rising nationalism. Many European countries are looking more and more like pre WWII Germany.

       • jlp, There you go again, talking about tomatoes, when there’s pork steaks on the table.

         I’ve already acknowledged that we have horrible outcomes in proportion to the money we spend. But, if you have the money, or decent insurance, we have much of the top care available on planet earth. We can debate single-payer all day, Medicare is one of the most efficient delivery systems available, despite the occasional waste.

         But none of that’s the point. Another sad misdirection.

         • Try paying for life saving drugs some time no matter how good your insurance they still get away with caps on your medicine funs and crooked drug companies continue to rape the public at obscene levels of cost. They do not get away with that in civilized European Countries. Ever notice the prostitute Congressmen always block bills to let European and Asian low cost drugs into the Country. Last time I checked even most Canadian drugs were banned. Wonderful health system we have here it makes me puke over the corruption.

       • You know why they have cheap drugs in the EU? Because we subsidize them in the US.

         God god kid, really? That little knowledge?

4. When people are being forced to pay the state for their own mistreatment, and are staring the death of their language, culture and traditions in the face there is only one way for this to end.

   Europe will violently repatriate or kill the Islamic invaders as will every nation that faces such a threat.

   Immigration and multiculturalism is societal rape. The politicians and the perpetrators will pay the same price. Expulsion or death.

   • Proper immigration is a good thing, and proper multiculturalism, both of which entail the immigrants having to come in legally, work, and integrate into the culture at large. If they want to speak their language and all that at home and in their neighborhoods, fine, but when in society at large, they need to speak the main language (English if in America, German if in Germany, etc…). Bringing in tons of immigrants and not requiring any integration and supporting them on social services invites disaster.

     • The nut of the issue is that Islamists begin with the notion that the world at large is created to submit (which is what “Islam” means) to Muslim culture and beliefs. There is no room in their belief system to co-exist, much less integrate. Jobs won’t do it; welfare won’t do it; hope and change won’t do it. Islam is at war with the world. They mean to rule, not adjust.

       • They are “Borg” and must be treated accordingly.

       • Mark Bolan made a general statement. Importing Indians and Chinese is clearly a plus.

     • There is no social or economic benefit to the importation of people to a developed nation. None.

       It is altruistic bullshit sold by the globalists since WWII. The 70 year experiment in multiculturalism and free trade is over and it has failed spectacularly.

       • So I take it your people are off the Mayflower. /sarc

         • Weren’t the Mayflower people more advanced that the land they imported themselves into?

       • Yep. I won’t bother people with the evidence on “free trade” here, but you’re correct.

         And the biggest topic in Davos last week among the well-heeled multi-nationalists was Trump’s “American First” trade policy ideas. It scares the crap out of them.

       • Ltk doesn’t get sarcasm. We pretty much all descedebts from immigrants of LDCs.

       • There is no social or economic benefit to the importation of people to a developed nation.
         Not all imported people are equal; that is the liberal mistake.

       • Free trade hasn’t been any failure. Infringing on free trade heavily will tank the economy and infringe on the rights of people and companies to buy from foreign companies if they should so choose (just because a company is American doesn’t mean it’s any good, either in terms of its products or its morals). As for Trump, I would say that he talks as someone who seems to know very little about the subject. This is the guy who was railing against the TPP, saying how it benefits China, only to have Rand Paul have to point out to him that China isn’t even part of it, and it is actually designed to counter China.

         The kind of one-sided free trade where the Chinese and to a degree the Japanese rip us off and such is bad, and something needs to be done there, but the solution is not to crack down on free trade itself. Free trade of goods and services is a normal part of the human condition.

         As for immigrants coming in, they can be inferior to the culture of the nation they immigrate to and become productive citizens. But they need to integrate into the culture.

       • The TPP is perhaps the most dangerous, and insidious trade agreement ever conceived. It will pretty much subsume governments and their people to the greater good of multi-nats.

     • The reality is after looking past racial hate and prejudice is that 1st Generation children of immigrants soon lose their ability to speak their parents native language. A good example was way back as long ago as the 1950’s when the famous Latino song “La Bamba” became a hit. The young boy who sang that song was a 1st generation son of immigrants who could not speak a word of Spanish and only mouthed the Spanish memorized words to the song. Most Americans to this very day, well over 1/2 century later still think the singer was Spanish and not American.

     • Proper immigration is a good thing As a blanket statement that is moronic.

       Perhaps allow a limited number:
       IF your nation doesn’t have mass un/under employment (US is now over 97million)
       IF the migrant has valuable skills – this does NOT include pool maint or TV talking head.
       IF your nation is not fully peopled – US pretty much is.
       IF previous immigrant pools have well melded with the natives – certainly NOT the case in the US. The 47 million that have arrived in the last 35y have not done so,
       IF the OWNERs agree – the opinion of the “know better”/”ruling class” is irrelevant.

       • Quote: IF previous immigrant pools have well melded with the natives – certainly NOT the case in the US. The 47 million that have arrived in the last 35y have not done so, Quote:

         I suggest you take a trip to areas of the U.S. that have high formerly immigrant populations like California, Washington (Seattle area) Cleveland, Michigan etc. etc. and then try and tell anyone they have not assimilated. Their businesses prove it beyond any doubt and you do not even have to get out of your car just read their signs located on the front of their businesses.

   • The short term solution is obvious: arm and defend yourself/family and don’t count on the government to do anything but protect the muslims.

     Long term: replace the politicians letting Germany be raped with those that would close off the boarders and deal with the violent invaders.

     I hate to see the land of my ancestors raped by animals. I hope the German people are wise and strong enough to fight back.

5. Ninety-plus percent of Syrian (says who?) refugees are men of warrior age (who left their families to deal with ISIS). What do people expect of a primitive culture based on blood lust? Liberalism is a mental disorder (affecting Europe also), and will get peopled killed. Invite people for whom life is about power and brutality into your home, and hope they will act nice because you do? Insanity.

6. The logic here is ironic. Lots of Muslims and said Muslims attacking the women, but saying to deport them all and ban any further ones is wrong. But some mass shooters killing people and saying to confiscate and ban all the guns is perfectly logical. Even though the problem of the Muslim attackers is due directly to their being Muslim and the presence of them while the problem of the mass shooters has nothing to do with the guns. But I’ll bet this guy fully supports civilian disarmament.

   • As you demonstrated with your explanation, there is no logic nor consistency in the minds of gun-grabbers and Progressives. They go wherever the whim of their brain takes them. In other words they go wherever their emotions take them.

     In their minds it makes perfect “sense” to conflate violent criminals (who use firearms) with all firearm’s owners … and to separate violent Muslims from all “non-violent” Muslims. And it makes perfect “sense” because it feels good to denigrate all firearms owners and it feels good to rescue poor Muslims fleeing war-torn countries.

     In case someone is not yet totally on-board, here is yet another illustration. It makes perfect “sense” to a gun-grabber/Progressive to denigrate firearms owners who have a “Rambo complex” and want to rescue someone in public from a violent attacker … just as it makes perfect “sense” to a gun-grabber/Progressive to celebrate people who want to rescue “peaceful” Muslims from violent Muslims. Why does a desire to rescue someone demand denigration in one instance and celebration in another? Answer: because it feels good to denigrate in one instance and it feels good to celebrate in another.

7. They need a large mob of angry German natives to face off with Merkel’s “rapefugees” when they come out in force groping and gang banging – literally – gang banging.

   • The practice is called “taharrush gamea”. Its a cultural tool to oppress women, and it is being imported whole cloth into Europe. As somebody has said elsewhere, Western European culture is generally slow to anger, but historically speaking, once it get going, it gets real ugly, real quick.

     • I wish there were some other way to deal with Muslims. Sadly, only ethnic cleansing has ever proved effective. Either that, or losing your civilization.

       • You obviously know little or nothing about immigration history. Lets take the U.S. for example. Usually by the 1st generation of children born here they assimilate very well. Most lose their ability to speak the language of their parents and often marry outside their ethnic group. They adopt American clothing styles, music, political beliefs and unfortunately American diets as well. It is well known that children who still speak also their parents language often have a very thick American Accent and if they happen to travel back to their parents country the local foreign people know immediately that they live in America because of their American accent. The children also lose many of their parents culture beliefs as well and readily adopt American attitudes and beliefs as the children they go to school with form their peer group and they wish to fit in and be like everyone else. Back in the 20’s and 30’s many immigrants even changed their names to English sounding names to further fit in. Thankfully in modern times all that nonsense seems to be far less than it once was.

       • Ahh. I know a little about “immigration history” as half of my family was here in the mid 1500s, and the other half in the mid 1600s.

         Et tu?

         I know precisely that your mythology about 1st gen immigrants is not true, and it’s persistent beyond the 3rd gen…

         http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/assimilation-models-old-and-new-explaining-long-term-process

         Once again, you have nothing but nonsensical wishes, not anything resembling fact.

8. I feel sorry for those women. As for Germany, I have no sympathy whatsoever. Germany invaded and ethnic Germans terrorized by a minority sounds like karma to me.

   • I’m pretty sure I’m going to he’ll for laughing as hard as I did at that.

   • “Germany invaded and ethnic Germans terrorized by a minority sounds like karma to me.”

     More especially since the invaders are knowingly and specifically using the lessons of the Holocaust to protect themselves from government and public retribution by claiming at every opportunity that opposition to their presence or actions is pure anti-Muslim bigotry and evoking the ghosts of concentration camps and mass-murder to protect their political ( not religious) actions while at the same time swearing at every opportunity that the Holocaust never happened.

     As with their acts of terrorism, Islamic radicals hide their political objectives behind a facade of freedom of religion.

   • childish, unserious,foolish, short sighted and frankly shockingly ignorant statement. WW2 has been over for 70 years. Germany was completely and utterly destroyed. Anyone of substance of the Nazi party was hunted down and executed or imprisoned, as was appropriate. Punishment was delivered to the guilty. The women of Germany from 8 to 80 were raped en mass in the red army zone. And you still hate their grandkids? really ? what a junior high level of cartoonish goodguy/badguy outlook. In my understanding, Judaism doesn’t believe in “blood guilt”.

     There are 3 major forces at play in the world. Islam, international socialism/liberalism and Christian /secular modern culture. The first 2 want to eradicate the third.
     Combine this with Economic problems from enormous levels of government debt ,(remember Greece anyone) This could become an existential threat to Europe. The migrants are 73% adult male according to UN refugee asylum claims. Germany took in 1.1 million of them last year alone. This is not going to end well.

     • Sorry Cowboy but you know nothing about the history of immigration. First off you mention Greece as most right wing radicals would but Socialism in Greece had absolutely nothing to do with its current problems rather it was mismanagement and corruption in the government. I defy you to tell me what the difference is in regards to Germany Socialism which as been a resounding monument to success and Greek Socialism which had nothing to do with its current problems.

       As far as immigration being a disaster even History 101 would have taught you that immigration far from being a detriment to a nations economy is always been an attribute. Immigrants save far more of their money than the indigenous people, they at first take jobs no one else wants and when they have saved enough money many start businesses which history has proven through studies are usually far more successful. It was true as far back as the Roman Empire and is still true today. As a matter of fact when Rome had a downturn in their economy due to greed, graft and corruption they blamed, guess who, the immigrants and stopped giving them citizenship which was one of the major reasons the Empire failed. My how history has repeated itself with the U.S. being the prime example of banning immigrants and suffering a steady deterioration of the economy ever since the racist Harry Truman and his close friends the KKK succeeded in passing a law that cut of European Immigration in the 1930’s at a time when American needed more immigrants not less and guess what, today history repeats itself once more as today more than ever we need way more immigration because of an aging population which will not be here much longer to pay into the Social Security fund or the tax revenue base at the local , state and federal levels. The one good thing about the continuing ban on large amounts of immigration in the U.S.is that with less and less tax revenue the U.S. will no longer be able to spend 53 per cent of its budget on continuing and waging new wars.

     • Holy crap, more garbage!

       Immigrants are only a panacea when you need cheap, exploitable labor. Like when a country is growing. The rest of the time they are a millstone on the neck of society, especially when you have a developed country.

       As much as I hate using the Heritage Foundation, the numbers are quite real and easily validatable…

       http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/10/importing-poverty-immigration-and-poverty-in-the-united-states-a-book-of-charts

       Poor, illiterate/uneducated immigrants (which are the vast majority, especially among illegals) are nothing but something to drag us down.

       Keep trying. I have facts…

       • I suggest you take your rabid prejudice to the city of Seattle and see for yourself how much your blind hatred is in error. There you will find multitudes of immigrants from Asia who are successful businessmen, lawyers, teachers and engineers. Of course you will say all this is a myth and Seattle does not exist.

       • Thanks I’ve been to Seattle many times. At least 4 weeks a year, it’s gorgeous.. You’ve now switched to Asians, as they are a group that has assimilated well, and culturally/religiously and biologically likes to assimilate. They are fine Americans, and fit the ‘melting pot’ analogy very nicely.

         What you neglected was that Islam does none of those things. If we let the tiny fraction in that we were letting in (you know, actual professionals) then they would assimilate by the 3rd generation, and not be a drag on resources while doing it. My bartender at the strip club is a “muslim”- in name only. If they ever come in numbers, and actually behave as they do everywhere they have been allowed to infest, he’ll be standing next to me with a rifle in hand. He’s an apostate and would be among the first beheaded.

         I’m sure you’ll try to Maguffin your way out of this too, with just as much success.

         My views on Islam and it’s complete incompatibility with Western Civilization are shared by history books, Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, and Neil deGrasse Tyson in the present day. There’s a crowd of other intellectuals, but I’ll try to pitch slow, because you’re not very good at this debate thing.

         So, don’t fret. Every single one of your baseless-feel-good tirades will be rebutted with statements that actually have fact,science, and history behind them.

         • Your racism is so appalling it eclipses your complete ignorance of American Muslims and what a success they have been in the U.S. Last week MSNBC did a story about a city in Michigan where the complete city council comprised of Muslims and they run the city just fine and obviously they do not have many xenophobic racists like yourself. In lower Michigan there is a plethora of Muslims businesses as well as in upper Ohio in the Cleveland area once again making you look like the ignorant racist fool you are.

       • Muslims are a “race” now? Really, I always thought it was a religion and way of life, who knew it was a race? So the East Asian Muslims, they are the same race as Arab Muslims? Who knew?

         I’m well aware of what is happening in Hamtramck. What we will see is the obscenity of Muslim culture continuing to ruin that (tiny little) town. There is already the call to prayer broadcast audibly. In the near future, there will be just like in France and the UK ‘Muslim Patrols’. Next, your completely unacceptable by American standards treatment of women, FGM, there is no way but Islam. THAT’S the problem.

         The problem is your slavish devotion to 8th century “culture”, and belief in a war-mongering raider, who when he wasn’t fighting, was screwing everything he could get his filthy hands on. The Quran is replete with passages about “the prophet’s” sex life.

         I’m a culturalist, and you don’t want to fit in here.

         • Quite hiding behind the semantics of the word “Culturist” and just come out and be honest the world you need to use is rabid “racist”. Its the prime requisite on becoming a Conservative. Hate everyone and categorize everyone in one lump sum never realizing out of the several billion Muslims most are not part of radical Islam. Ever read some of the European Muslims face book comments and how they say “I do not believe in terrorism” well of course not and if you bothered to study other cultures you just might come to the realization that you do indeed suffer from Xenophobia and know little or nothing about the true beliefs of foreign peoples. And remember there is plenty of violence and contradiction in the Christian bible as well but this does not mean that because that there is Christians are all violent maniacs either and ditto for most Muslims a concept you cannot ever admit to yourself as it would destroy your pre-conceived notions that you are part of the Master Race that has never done anything wrong in History and every other culture is out to get you and take away your prosperity and destroy your religion.

       • Except this is not about race, it’s about culture – try again, you’re still losing.

         Really, all you do in every one of your 90 IQ screeds is cry “racist”. It’s really boring and you have no evidence to actually back that claim up.

         On the other hand, I support my claims with facts. So, how’s your thesis going supporting ‘Rules for Radicals’ as a viable platform?

         • Looks to me that Radical Rules are pretty successful.

         • I am laughing over your miss step into the cow manure on this one. Gandhi used similar tactics and beat the British Empire. Too bad you flunked History 101.

       • So where’s my “step into the cow manure” again? Yeah, I never did and you know it.

         I don’t care about Gandhi, he’s not relevant to this thread.

         Keep trying….

         • 1. Illegal immigrants lower your fruit and vegetable bills because they are worked as slave labor below minimum wage.
           2.Immigrants lower your meat bills because the corrupt Meat Industry employees up to 90 per cent illegal immigrant workers.
           3. Illegal Immigrants lower your taxes because they pay in billions and get no refunds.
           4. Illegal immigrants bolster Social Security because they are not eligible for retirement funds.

           NOW YOU KNOW WHY REPUBLICAN PROSTITUTES DO NOT WANT IMMIGRATION REFORM BEAUSE THEIR MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS ARE CORRUPT AMERICAN BUSINESSMEN.

9. “Could we see a repeat in modern Germany? A dramatic turn to the left (yes, left) leading to totalitarian rule?”
   I’m not sure what “left” mean in this context.

   Is the definition of left vs right a question of state-controlled economies as it was used to differentiate communist takeovers from capitalist coups during the cold war? Or is it an amalgam of social views within a nation? What if the two don’t match together? Or is it a meaningless word used to define anything “bad”?

   It seems like one of those words that makes little and less sense the more it is applied to complicated subjects, particularly those that take place in other countries which don’t have political lines drawn in the same places we do. I guess it just means “not us”?

   • Hannibal,

     I think you are confusing Progressivism with Fascism. Progressivism means totalitarian state control in order to ram-rod left-wing ideals. Fascism means totalitarian state control in order to ram-rod right-wing ideals. My understanding is that WWII Germany was attempting to ram-rod right-wing ideals to some extent. Germany today is more interested in ram-rodding left-wing ideals.

     Most of us probably fall in the middle under classic Liberalism — which we call Libertarianism today. Classic liberalism seeks to minimize the state and maximize personal choice, liberty, and responsibility. Of course that is at odds with Progressivism which seeks a central government that wields virtually unlimited power to enforce left-wing ideals including uniformity of thought and the state providing for everything. And classic Liberalism is, to a lesser extent, at odds with Fascism which still wants a powerful state that eliminates some choices, and yet does not demand uniformity of thought nor agrees to provide food/shelter/clothing.

     • It should be more of a line or spectrum than a left, right, or middle. One end of the spectrum is anarchy. The other end is totolitarianism, authortarians, socialism, communism, fascists, theocracies and other ideologies that crush the rights of individuals.

     • Fascism: “We have decided what is best for you. If you know what is good for you then you will NOT oppose us.”

       Thus Fascists can be any group attempting to force their agenda on the populace. In most cases this does NOT include the political right, true conservatives, who tend to abhor big government and government coercion.

       Historically Fascist governments have been Liberal/Progressive/Utopian.

       I read somewhere that the political spectrum should be viewed as a circle, not a line. The farther you get to the extremist, either left or right, the more their tactics appear to be identical. So it is not unimaginable that a far-right fascism could exist, it is just difficult to find historical examples of such. Those that you will find are almost always associated with allowing religious extremism to infect the body politic.

       So, famous American Fascists are Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) and Margaret Sanger (Progressive). Mussolini started out as a rabid Socialist before becoming a Fascist. Hitler was a National Socialist and a Fascist. Lenin and Stalin, although they were loathe to admit it, were both Fascists in their own style. Mao was a hard-core Communist who used the techniques of Fascism to advantage. Pol Pot was NOT a right winger. Need I go on?

       • The farther you get to the extremist, either left or right, the more their tactics appear to be identical.
         In the extreme, there is little difference between the right and the left wings of totalitarian governments.

10. Not a bad article, but unfortunately the problem with mass immigration to Germany is nothing that could be fixed with armed self defense, because the underlying major problem isn’t one of criminal nature, but an economical one. Germany’s social and healthcare system is very tight netted, there is just about no way, to live a really bad life here in Germany.
    Costs for healthcare are going through the roof already with an aging population, the social costs are following.
    Our system is different from the US, since the more the community has to care for the individual the less the community can afford having a lot of people not contributing.
    Those 1,000,000 people by the nicest estimates done by lefties will take about 9 years, until they will start paying into the system at all. Not talking about at the moment it looks like they will soon get the company of another million this year.
    The costs for the 1 million here already has been summed up to 30 billion € in the long term. That’s nearly the same amount we pay for our whole armed forces a year.

    On the other hand for the normal people it has been going downhill in Germany in the last years and that will continue. Yes, we produce and sell more than we ever have … with fewer people… There are hardly enough well paid jobs at the moment and it’s not going to get better.

    So for now I think normal people in Germany are somehow too busy to get the “no human is illegal” out of leftie skulls or explain the concept of “borders” to care about armed self defense.

    • It’s always about demographics. Germans don’t reproduce enough to pay for the welfare state so you import people but you no longer are getting productive East and Southern Europeans but Muslim parasites instead. No matter what Americans feel about immigrants from south of the border we are getting people who are at least culturally Christian which make assimilation at least possible.

      The root cause of Germany’s demographic crisis is the abandonment of religion and the resulting nihilistic culture. If you think life ends with your death you are less interested in future generations and become less interested in producing one.

      • Nicely done !

      • “If you think life ends with your death you are less interested in future generations and become less interested in producing one.”
        How do you know that?
        No afterlife for me and my wife. We don’t believe in next life here or in another dimension. Our ONLY chance at something like eternal life is through those next generations.
        We want them to live and prosper and to give them the best chance we decided to live in these USA.

      • My doctor is a Muslim, my Policeman is a Muslim, my dentist is a Muslim and all fit quite nicely into American Society. In one town in Michigan I read last week the entire city council is Muslim and no one is in a panic about it either. They run things very well indeed. This of course flies in the face of your racist comments that Muslims are parasites. You must live in a cave in the mountains somewhere, get out into the “real America” and observe what is really going on. I suggest you also take a trip to lower Michigan or upper Ohio where there are hundreds of Muslim businesses. I have been in them and patronized them. I have seen them set up businesses in some of the most dangerous parts of some town because no other bossiness man would. Again I would hardly call them parasites.

      • By the way one of the Muslims that got his restaurant in France shot up owned his Pairs restaurant for over 30 years. His first statement to the French News Media was that the people who committed these acts were not Muslims but terrorists. Too bad we cannot get this message across to the ignorant racists that seem to lump people into the good v/s the bad. Pure ignorance, pure racism, pure tribalism, and a mark of the uneducated.

        • The no true Scotsman argument. There are lots of well educated Muslims would disagree with you. The head of ISIS is an Islamic Scholar with a Ph.D.

          • A PH.D is not a qualification. He obliviously is a blasphemer and hypocrite using religion to accomplish his evil aims to further his power and wealth. The devote Muslim does not murder unarmed people or kill women and children, this is forbidden in the Koran. I suggest you read it sometime and you are not disqualified from reading it if you are not a Muslim. You just might enhance your knowledge of Islam if you did and lower your narrow mindedness and prejudicial hate of other peoples and their religions and cultures.

        • Have never read the Quran or Hadith, yet you pretend they would somehow disagree. Either that, pathetically hilarious, or you’re just another Muslim… Personally, I’m going with you’re a Muslim and want to be an apologist for this nonsense.

          What those terrorist animals are doing is exactly what the Quran and the Prophet Muhammed (pig shit be upon him) tell them to do.

          • You obviously have not read the Koran. It states it is not permissible to kill women, children or unarmed people. When Richard the Lion Hearted invaded the Middle East on the pretext of saving Christianity, but in reality it was an attempt to rape and plunder the holy land with a bunch of formerly unemployed mercenaries he deliberately tried to trick Saladin into attacking him by openly killing captive women and children. Saladin was actually the far more humane leader in that war. I only point this ancient history out to prove that Christians committed mass murder many times in history which is a fact conveniently swept under the rug to often by the west.

        • So jlp, Thanks for confirming that you are a Muslim, and one of the Westernized ones, with absolutely no idea what is in the Quran, let alone Hadith. The things that actual “devout” Muslims read, know, and live.

          “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” Quran 8:12

          “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people.” Quran 9:14

          “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Quran 9:73

          I could do this over 100 more times, and that’s just the Quran, the Hadith is novel full of violent quotes about killing the nonbelievers. For all your nonsense about not harming “innocents” it’s very clear that the Quran sanctions killing everyone over 100 quotes, and they outnumber your one quote.

          Keep trying…

    • Our system is different from the US, since the more the community has to care for the individual the less the community can afford having a lot of people not contributing.
      This applies to the USA or any other country with social programs.

11. People are getting paid to screw up Europe and the US. Those receiving payment are your a-hole neighbors needing jobs (your gov’ts) when things go really south there likely won’t be a hiding place on Pluto.

12. These are not ‘refugees’ they are INVADERS. Refugees are not 18-30 year old [fighting-age] men with time to kill. Would you expect (armed or ‘disarmed’) Americans of that age to flee to Mexico or Canada at the first hint of violence? Hell no, and that’s not what these men are doing either. Think about it.

    • Bingo, we have a winner for the most salient point on the thread.

      • No questions, and nicely said, to boot! Maybe to flee to Brazil, on foot?

13. The funny thing is that in every picture where you see a immmigrant, there are 30 ugly feminists singing songs to welcome them. The women of germany are supporting the horde of strong men coming to their country, they are inviting the rape culture with open arms. Same thing in Britain, where women craving a structured lifestyle flock to convert to islam. Religion is an after thought in germany, which gives the invaders even extra motivation to establish islam in that void. I hate to say it, but the grandkids of germany will be wearing burkas unless the men of germany stand up.

    In ww2 men fought the nazis, women slept with them. Men invade, women submit.

    Better start up the friekorps before its too late…

14. The Germans are under no obligation to allow upwards of 10 million people with a completely incompatible culture into their country.

    Think about that a bit. In a little less than 5 years, if Merkel has her way, 1 in 9 Germans will be fresh transplants from countries where women are not respected, Sharia law is considered far above the laws of the state, etc. Based on Turkish immigrants they also have little desire to learn the German language or otherwise assimilate into German culture.

    Germans are under the illusion that they HAVE TO DO THIS in order to make up for the things they did in WWII.

    Two wrongs don’t make a right. Wake up Germany, before it’s too late.

    • Seriously, I’ve said it before. F*ck Hitler.

      Time to get over WWII. I’m sorry what happened to RF’s family (among many others) I really am, but:

      Anglo/Europeans should be allowed to have their own culture/nations. What is happening now is slow motion genocide. Google what the Muslims did with young girls in England or the rape stats in Sweden. Seriously, guys, this is bad stuff. Screw PC, it is what is and no one seems willing to stop it.

      I’m old. I got no kids, so, hey, why should I care, but, for some reason, I do. It is like seeing the heart of my culture ripped out and bleeding.

      • Well, you are right. Both that it is “non PC” to call a spade a spade and also that in fact we are seeing some kind of coordinated effort to bring in large number of culturally incompatible people to mostly white European countries. You will notice that M.E. countries (including very wealthy ones) are not taking these supposed refugees. Japan, South Korea? Nope. China? ha ha.

        It’s pretty disturbing but the lefties have done a very good job of brainwashing today’s youth that having feelings of nationalism are shameful and that wanting to preserve your culture and racial identity is itself racist… but of course only if you are white.

15. You know, when a group of people come into yer territory, seize it for themselves, impose their own culture/law, i.e., sharia, and proceed to make it a no go zone for cops and emergency services, and rape the native woman, well, it is an invasion. This has happend in France, England, Sweden, and now, alas, Germany.

    This the very heart of Western Civilization we’re talkin bout here and it is being invaded, literally, by the fricken Saracen. And the folks runnin the show think it’s alles in ordung.

    I mean, does anyone openly advocate, say, the native population of Japan be replaced? Or, hey, why don’t we all move to Mexico. It is only the Anglo/European countries that are supposed to embrace the immivasion. Invade the world and then invite it. Truly, Verucht (sic).

    It’s not really the truth about gunz here – it is the hidden truth about the invasion the West (and the replacement of its native population) a population which is no longer capable, it seems, of defending itself.

16. The problem with the premise of this article is that Germany is hardly a one-off. This situation is being replicated in Sweden, Finland, Norway, Poland, Hungary, Austria, etc. Islam is simply incompatible with western secular democracy, full stop. That’s all anyone needs to know about the situation.

    The Schengen agreement is about to go out the window, and probably the rest of the EU nonsense with it – but Germany will be trying to hold it all together, because their economic condition rests upon the “free trade” area that is the EU.

    Germany can be depended upon to start a large war in Europe every 30+ years or so. This has been true going back at least 140 years in history. The two differences today are that, in the last 60 years, we (the Americans) have enforced Pax Americana upon the Germans to keep them from instigating anything with guns (and we decided to prop up Krupp by buying their stupid coffee-making machinery instead of flak cannons), and this time, they decided to outsource the job through treaty and mass invasion.

    Now, as to your allusion to the Muslims being treated by Germans as the Jews were: You need to bush up on your history, Robert. Go look at how many Muslims were recruited into the SS (look for “Handschar”), and what they did. And then ponder on why so many Jews are suddenly decamping France for Israel… here’s a clue: It isn’t because last year’s vintage of brie and wine tasted “off.”

    • Germany got into bed with the Middle Eastern Muslims because they both wanted to crush the British Empire. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

      I don’t know what the hell Germany is doing with the Muslims today, or why they are importing their crime and disease.

    • Now if your going to tell the story TELL the whole story. Yes, the nazis did use muslims in their world tour, but it was only to secure the areas and after the areas were secure they were to be disposed of. Because they relized they could not fight everyone at once.

    • Go look at how many Muslims were recruited into the SS; more than a few and they are photographed with SS Fezs.

    • I agree that the Muslim/Jew comparison was unfounded. The most extreme possible measure is the closing of borders and deportation of convicted criminals. The Jews of Europe are at a very real risk however, because of the massive influx of people whose religion commands them to kill Jews .

17. Truth be told, my guess is that some sort of civil war and/or mass violence is likely to errupt somewhere in western Europe within a few years tops. Even if just 5% of the Muslim migrants are the radical, uncompromising, devout kind – and that’s a very conservative estimate – it means tens of thousands of potential fanatical warriors of Islam.

    Both polititians and traditional media have been convicted of lying, of censoring information, manipulating data, suppressing opposing views and so on. Distrust, based on experience, is growing. And nearly every action taken to continue on existing course increases those tensions. People who feel they’ve been deceived and hurt by powers that be will tend to turn to other means of securing safety. When you *know* that even the police is not just powerless but often actually acts against your own legitimate interests, you stop trusting that the state will help. When you see taxes being spent to indoctrinate even your children, you get angry.

    Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all Muslims are unable to integrate into western cultures. But the politically unpleasant fact is that too many forms of Islam are incompatible with democratic principles. Too many factions of Islam unflinchingly cling to ideologies that would be declared criminal if preached by anyone not hiding under the umbrella of Islam. You can’t integrate someone who considers the very idea of democracy an affront to God’s plans. And should those thousands and tens of thousands of such Muslims create the kind of mayhem they are capable of, and should enough Muslim migrants fail to convincingly join the side of the locals, enough people will stop trying to distinguish between various Muslim factions.

    The numbers of CCL applications have literally more than doubled here in the Czech Republic, the few contacts I have in Germany and Austria all confirm that common folks are arming themselves with passion unheard of for years and years. Does this mean that they will have to turn to violence? No. But the probability of it happening is going up.

    And while, on a philosophical level, declaring all Muslims mortal enemies would be unjust, a time might come when too many people will find themselves unable to afford the luxury of trying to observe perfect justice. Take a look at so many wars and genocides and pogroms and you’ll see the same principle again and again. Once too many members of a group behave like enemies, self-preservation alone compels people to declare the whole group enemies, with all the results this leads to. And even though moralists migh consider grouping innocents with the guilty unacceptable, we don’t live in a perfect world. Was it morally okay to bomb German cities during WW2, even though the pilots knew there were innocents down there too? You see, I’m afraid that we’re moving towards a future where we’ll face similar questions.

    • This was very well written, thanks. I’ve read that Poland, Czechoslovakia and other slightly eastern europeans are taking a very different approach to this situation than the Germans, British and northern europeans are.

      • Well we are having it comparatively easy due to minimal welfare. That is the reason why there is million asylum applications in Germany and only 2000 applications in the Czech Republic in 2015 – while success rates were in 2014 about the same.

        So, basically everybody just wants to pass through. Then it is up to the authorities to take the hard line and treat them all (except those who genuinely seek asylum in the country) as illegals – lock up, deport.

        https://youtu.be/JNamlcoWw_I

        The knowledge of full enforcement of immigration laws here became so widespread that there are migrant maps now which specifically instruct users to avoid passing through the Czech Republic at all cost.

      • I guess we still remember the lessons we’ve learned from communism, plus we’re less culturally diverse and we’ve been less exposed to multicultural propaganda than most of western Europe. Poles, Slovaks, Hungarians, they all remember similar lessons. We’re also an atheistic bunch; two thirds of the country are atheists, which helps us remain a secular state, making all levels of government resistant to pressure from religious groups.

        I’m not saying we’re absolutely ethnically homogeneous here in the Czech Republic. On the contrary; we’ve got Slovak, German, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Greek and other minorities here, some 5% of our population are legal immigrants (which would be about equivalent to say 4 million legal immigrants for Germany). But while the vast majority of recent immigrants have managed to integrate into our society without creating any of the problems that Muslim communities often seem to cause, we also have experience with minorities that do cause problems out of proportion to their size. All this makes us believe that we can differentiate between those who can integrate and those who can’t, between those who do wish to become a part of a greater whole and those who wish to push their own agenda. Do we make mistakes? Yes. Are those mistakes serious and frequent? We don’t think so.

        Many Czechs are even proud of the bad reputation that we’ve acquired, hoping that it will help us remain undesirable in the eyes of those that Czechs don’t desire here anyway. This sentiment has even sparked a joke that has a kernel of truth to it: it is not true that we want no immigrants here – we’re perfectly willing to welcome all the hard-working, law-abiding, freedom-loving Germans, French, Swedes and other similar refugees.

        • The advantage the Czechs, Hungarians, Slavs, Romanians, Roma, Poles, et al have is that they remember the Muslims hordes from a couple hundred+ years ago. The Austrians were given an economy-sized clue as well in 1683.

          The Germans, and the Nordic countries? They lack the formal education eastern Europe acquired through blood and treasure. The Germans still are learning this lesson for the first time.

    • If there is an article on Cologne, the hard numbers should be also put forward.

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/21/revealed-full-list-of-1049-victims-crimes-committed-during-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-assaults/

      3 hours, 1 townsquare = 400 sexual assaults, of that 126 gangrapes.

      126 gangrapes.

      126.

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/21/revealed-full-list-of-1049-victims-crimes-committed-during-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-assaults/

      I understand that Germans don’t get excited easily. I can get to some point that the post-war pacifism is prevalent to the point that they would still be extremely against relaxing gun control in their country.

      But for f–k’s sake, 126! And then cover-up (first official police report said that it was PEACEFUL night!!!). And they don’t even demonstrate. Nothing. They just move along like if nothing happened. Buy a couple of pepper sprays and keep head down. Don’t look the brown ones in the eye.

      Had this happened in a Czech city under similar circumstances (1 – open invitation by head of state, 2 – head of state’s plan is “we will manage, 3 – 126 rapes, 4 – cover-up) not only would the government fall, but the party in power would very likely never recover in the polls.

      In Germany? Nothing really.

      Well, at least Czechs are again being interested in guns after 2000-2014 hiatus. Finally we are seeing new people joining the crowd instead of just the same ones buying more guns.

    • It is actually over 6 times more applications and growing.

      In Prague the first free exam date right now is in June. And that is despite there being many more of them open than 2 years ago. Gone are the times when the exams were half empty.

18. “… lumping together all recent arrivals with those who committed these acts of violence is simply wrong …”

    According to my estimate below, about 1 in 14 Middle Eastern male “refugees” who invaded sought refuge in Germany participated in the recent mass assault/rape of German women in Cologne. That indicates a serious systemic problem with the “refugees”. In my book it does require lumping together all recent arrivals. (Only a culture that condones such activity could yield that many rapists.)

    For those of you who want to check my estimate, here it is:

    News reports indicate that something like one million (1,000,000) Middle Eastern “refugees” have come to Germany. I think it is fair to say that they are spread around Germany in a fairly even distribution … almost exclusively to the various cities. I count about 20 large cities with populations between roughly 1/2 million to 4 million people. Thus we would expect about 50,000 “refugees” in each of those cities and surrounding areas. Of those refugees, let’s say that about 1/3 are children, 1/3 are women, and 1/3 are men. Thus, about 17,000 male Middle Eastern refugees inhabit each city. News reports also indicate that over 1,000 male Middle Eastern “refugees” participated in the mass assault/rape of women in Cologne. That means about 1 in 17 Middle Eastern male “refugees” participated in the attacks. And I haven’t even allowed for the fact that some of the male “refugees” would be too old to participate and some of them might be non-Muslims who have no interest in such attacks. Thus, the real number is probably closer to about 1 in 14 Middle Eastern male “refugees” participated in the attacks on German women.

    • While I applaud and support your mathematical approach to the issue, I keep returning to the epistemology of the Muslim mind – taken from their own “holy foundation” of the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira, as well as Sharia law.

      In Islam, women who aren’t Muslim are fair game for conquest. They are not accorded the same protection under Sharia law that Muslim women are (and Muslim women’s testimony is worth only half of a man’s testimony under Sharia law, so it isn’t as though Muslim women are getting anything like equal treatment under their law either), and the Sira showed how Muhammad himself treated non-Muslim women of his military campaigns – as booty and sex slaves to be traded away.

      Muslims do not view western women as citizens, only as chattel to be raped at their leisure, and that’s especially true of women who don’t comport themselves as modestly as the Muslim mindset requires. That’s a fact, clearly in evidence in their own holy books, from a simple textual reading.

      The simple fact is this: A Muslim man who treats women as his equal is an apostate.

      People of the west need to start studying Islam and what it really entails.

      • Very true. Compared to a Muslim man, a Muslim woman is a half wit animal.

      • “It seems to me a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested development of the Arab.”
        – General George S. Patton

        • Gen. Patton was a G-d sage.

      • I agree wholeheartedly Dyseptic Gunsmith … that is why I included my statement

        (Only a culture that condones such activity could yield that many rapists.)

    • I want to clarify that my estimate above refers to the fact that about 1 in 14 Middle Eastern “refugees” who have settled in the Cologne area participated in the mass assault/rape of those women. My statement, read in the strictest sense, says that 1 in 14 of all Middle Eastern “refugees” who entered Germany participated in the mass rape/assault which is obviously not correct.

19. And here’s a little note from Sweden:

    https://www.rt.com/news/330180-police-violent-refugees-sweden/

    A 10-year old boy raped, a young woman stabbed to death.

    And the elites in the EU think that they’re going to civilize Muslims by drawing cartoons telling them to not defecate in the public pools… yea, that’ll work.

    • The old Baby Ruth Bar in the Pool Trick — and they fell for it. 🙂

    • Not only that. You can not possess pepper spray in Denmark and many other European countries.

      http://www.thelocal.dk/20160126/danish-teen-fought-off-her-attacker-with-pepper-spray-now-shell-face-fine

20. oh, $hit. Can’t wait to see the answer to the “Muslim Question”

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

      😉

21. when you dine with the devil, it’s best accomplished with a very long spoon……………….

22. Cologne has been associated with its Cathedral, its twin spires featured prominently on every imaginable thing – including the tank battle between the Panther and the Pershing. Neat Army film.

23. If there is an article on Cologne, the hard numbers should be also put forward.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/21/revealed-full-list-of-1049-victims-crimes-committed-during-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-assaults/

    3 hours, 1 townsquare = 400 sexual assaults, of that 126 gangrapes.

    126 gangrapes.

    126.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/21/revealed-full-list-of-1049-victims-crimes-committed-during-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-assaults/

    I understand that Germans don’t get excited easily. I can get to some point that the post-war pacifism is prevalent to the point that they would still be extremely against relaxing gun control in their country.

    But for f–k’s sake, 126! And then cover-up (first official police report said that it was PEACEFUL night!!!). And they don’t even demonstrate. Nothing. They just move along like if nothing happened. Buy a couple of pepper sprays and keep head down. Don’t look the brown ones in the eye.

    Had this happened in a Czech city under similar circumstances (1 – open invitation by head of state, 2 – head of state’s plan is “we will manage”, 3 – 126 rapes, 4 – cover-up) not only would the government fall, but the party in power would very likely never recover in the polls.

    In Germany? Nothing really.

    Well, at least Czechs are again being interested in guns after 2000-2014 hiatus. Finally we are seeing new people joining the crowd instead of just the same ones buying more guns.

    • Thank you Bungameng.

      If I had to move to Europe, there is no doubt in my mind that I would move to the Czech Republic. The more I hear about it, the more I like it!

      • My other choice would be Hungary, but I doubt I could master the language before I die.

        • Hungary is a nice country, if you (1) are ready to be unarmed, (2) can find a place with minimum gypsy population (level of lawlessness in Hungarian gypsy settlements are worse than in the worst German/French no-go-zones) and (3) don’t need good healthcare.

          If Czech Republic doesn’t cut it for you, I’d very much recommend looking towards Slovenia. Very developed and extremely safe country. If you live in Ljubljana it is 30 minutes drive to seaside on the south and 30 minutes to the Alps on the north. Gun laws are OK as long as you can live without carrying.

24. “Yes, there is that. The last time Germany had a problem with “the others” amongst them it didn’t end well for millions of Jews. Nor Germany, it must be said. This is the unspoken history hanging over Germany’s “foreigner problem.” Like the rest of his countermen, Mr. Dooley’s is reluctant to confront the solution — and I use that word advisedly — head-on.”

    Idiotic comparison.

    Jews in Germany WEREN’T INVADERS, they had lived there for centuries, THEY SERVED IN THE GERMAN ARMY IN WW1, and they weren’t running around RAPING WOMEN.

    The muslim invaders NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN LET IN, they should certainly be put on trains or planes and SENT BACK TO JIHADI LAND where they didn’t have the balls to fight ISIS or for or against ASSAD, and the politicians who invited them in should be impeached and then prosecuted.

    And BTW, the German citizens must get a Second Amendment in their Constitution and start shooting rapists on sight.

25. The last time Germany had a problem with “the others” amongst them it didn’t end well for millions of Jews.
    The Germans have done a great job historically of going after more than just Jews, but other countries operate the same way.

26. The whole of the people are unarmed, the police are flippant, at best, and negligent, at worst, the media ignores on the topic as a whole, and politicians are afraid to address the issue with a ten foot pole for fear of being “racist.”

    It’s literally the perfect storm for Rapapalooza.

    • Lest anyone mistake “Rapapalooza” for a Rap music festival, we should spell it “Rape-a-palooza”.

      • Good call

27. Yah mein herr-you’re screwed. The ghost of hitler. My mamma was a Schmidt-and my mom and dad spoke Deutch around the dinner table. AS well as renting rooms to German immigrants and helping others displaced. I can’t imagine how horrified my mom would be(dad was a bigot). I see a new Holocaust coming-and it won’t be European Jewry. Anyone else(sorta’) miss Grindstone and his finger-wagging excoriating all of us evil moos-lim bashers? he he…

28. How do you say in German, “We don’t have to protect you and we won’t let you protect yourself!”?

    For extra credit, say it in a “New Yawk” accent, since the attitude there is EXACTLY the same.

    I’m sure the German police and politicians wish those women would just shut and quietly commit suicide.

    There’s a saying that goes, “Europe will never forgive the Jews for the Holocaust.”

    In sixty years will it be, “Europe will never forgive its women for mass sexual assault and rape.”?

29. pubic disorder…heh. My favorite typo.

    I guess you could say this definitely was a very public pubic disorder.

30. Robert, your claim that Germany disarmed all her citizens before WWII is plain and simply wrong.

    “Nazi” gun laws (enacted in 1938, IIRC) were much less strict than those enacted by the Weimar Republic or current German gun laws. For example, long guns didn’t requite any registration or permit whatsoever!

    I don’t have much time to type right now (it’s 3 a.m. here in Germany), but I can elaborate tomorrow, if you want to.

    We should leave it to the antis to twist the facts in a way that fits a particular narrative.

    • Please elaborate I would be interested in hearing more from you.

      • Hey jlp, I’m glad you’re interested.

        It’s a common misconception that the Nazis outlawed civilian gun ownership in Germany, and it really bothers me that people keep bringing this up. Pro-gun activists don’t do themselves and their cause a favor if they blindly repeat what they read on the internet.

        To sum it up:

        It was the Entente that demanded disarmament of German citizens after WW I in the treaty of Versailles and at the Spa conference. On August 7, 1920, the Weimar government passed the “Gesetz zur Entwaffnung der Bevölkerung” (law to disarm the population), which virtually banned guns from private hands, with very few exceptions (mainly hunters).

        On 1928 – still under the Weimar government – a new law was adopted which lifted this ban. However, it also instituted compulsary registration of all firearms.

        This means that the registration of all firearms in civilian hands had already happened when the Nazis came to power in 1933.
        The Nazis made access to firearms easier for the average citizen and instituted (for the most part) less restrictive gun laws in the Reichswaffengesetz of 1938, with the explicit goal of “Wehrhaftmachung” (strengthening the ability to defend oneself) of the population. Now, adults were allowed to purchase long guns without any sort of permission, and hunters were allowed to carry their guns (including handguns) at any time (along with many minor changes like changing minimum age from 20 to 18).

        The text of the law is available online for everyone to read (in German). But you don’t have to read the original text. Just have a look at the English wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany):
        “Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition”

        This clearly means that you just could walk into a gun store and buy a rifle and ammo without any paperwork!

        Sure, Jews and other people who were deemed “untrustworthy” were not allowed to own guns. But they were also not allowed to drive cars or go to public baths. Saying the Nazis were against private gun-ownership is like saying they were against bathing.

        • Thanks for the extensive reply as I found it fascinating and have always wondered about this and especially all the in depth details and the time line of progression. I saved this for future reference.

31. America does not have a unique paranoia in regards to Islamophobia. The far right in Europe is alive and well and mouthing the NAZI hatreds of the past as loud and as evil as ever. The sexual harassment that occurred often does whenever mobs of drunken young men are out on the town during a celebration and the right wing was only to eager to blame it all on Middle Eastern men. Remember too that their were multitudes of Christian refugees fleeing the fighting in the war torn countries of Arabia and Afghanistan as well as Muslims but the right did not mention any Christian men or European men attacking women only so called Muslims.

    In one special from France24 News it was stated that in Austria you can get a permit to own a gun but it must be locked up even in your own home and it is all but impossible to get a legal permit to carry a pistol on the streets. Never the less applications for gun permits have skyrocketed and one young blonde Austrian Lady gave the impression that she was not about to lock up her gun at home but have it ready for self defense immediately and within easy reach. Of course all this paranoia was fanned by the hateful bigoted right wing of Europe that has been posting on social media all kinds of outrageous stories. When France24 news traced the right wing Nazi propaganda down it was found to no sane persons surprise that in every instance it was complete lies and not even classed as poor propaganda.

    In Denmark this week France24 News reports that the radical right has passed a new Nazi law that is reminiscent of the Nazi’s when they confiscated all valuables from the Jews before killing them in WWII. Now Denmark plans on doing a large amount of confiscation of property on their own by stripping any wealth off of newly arrived refugees to make them pay for their keep. Of course all this is counterproductive as newly arrived refuges will need every penny they bring with them to start completely over in a new country. Making them destitute only encourages some to resort to crime if they cannot get sufficient housing or food or medicine. The new NAZI LAW will be challenged in the Danish Courts and the European Union has already condemned the new law. The far Right in Poland has also passed new anti-refugee laws a well as people across Europe are now in a blind panic with all the influx of large amounts of refugees.

    One the brighter side many European people especially in the Nazified government of Hungary have gone all out to help the refugees with food and shelter while their right wing Nazi Government has done nothing at all except point the refugees in any direction out of Hungary and they have as of late built up a fence around Hungary in record time with refugees peering through the fence reminiscent of pictures of Jews peering between the fences in WWII Nazi concentration camps.

    The Refugee man with the little boy that was deliberately tripped by a Hungarian news woman made it to Spain and found employment as a soccer coach which was his prior profession which pointed out that many refugees are educated professionals not all lower working class people.

    Off course stories like this are largely absent from the very low class news media reporting of the U.S. News Media which often ignores major news stories happening around the world until the stories become so big they are impossible to ignore. Reason enough to get most of your news from major European news outlets as well as major Asian news outlets like NHK world, or European news outlets like DW News, France24, Aljazeera or BBC News.

    • “Stripping wealth” from refugees.
      Thanks, I needed a laugh.

      • I suggest you start watching more foreign news programs. Many refugees are professionals from all walks of life and many enjoyed a very high standard of living before fleeing their respective countries. As I gave the one example of an ex-soccer teacher who was attacked by a right wing news woman. France 24 news also interviewed refugees who were doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers just to name a few. Remember we are talking about a large segment of the population of the various countries fleeing war zones.

        • jlp, It’s not the case that these are professionals in any sense of the word.

          Just by percentages alone, if every doctor, lawyer, and business exec were to leave at the same time, to the same place, their numbers would be a couple of percentage points. These are backward and useless areas of the world, their law and medicine degrees are worth about the dogshit they are printed on. Not to mention, even then, they graduate very few.

          I’m rather sure at this point that you’re a Muslim troll. I know as well as you that the overwhelming majority of the invaders are illiterate, let alone “professionals”. And that you need to really go sell your nonsense to someone who doesn’t actually watch the world news, and by that , I mean the stuff that you don’t like.

          • You need to start watching professional European news programs. These people are computer literate, they have cell phones and most speak English as well as there own language and many speak French as well. If I was a current businessman dealing in the world market I would hire any one of them in a heart beat over a person like you who can only speak English as they are more qualified to compete in a global economy and many were doing just that before they fled their countries.

        • jlp, God, this is getting tiresome, you have nothing. Again. Still.

          Do come back when you have an actual argument of fact, not a boorish ad hominem. I think this will be the third time I have pointed out that basic logical fallacy to you, yet you still have no other plan.

          Once again, do try to actually argue facts, not just call names and fling poop on the walls like a more primitive primate.

          • When dealing with people of your educational level I have found it necessary to often repeat myself until it sinks in through the dense prejudicial cranium.

            • Alinsky’s Rule 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

        • Yes, jlp, dealing with ‘people on my level of education’ who have the same beliefs…

          Those would include Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and a host of others. Those ‘dimwits’ all think the same ‘redneck nonsense’ that I do. Hitch went to Oxford, Harris Stanford and UCLA, Tyson UT Austin and Columbia, Dawkins Balliol. Me? None of your concern, nor is it relevant, since I currently find myself ‘debating’ a child, one who has never taken a debate or logic class.

          Once again, do actually come back with an actual argument of fact. You haven’t had one this entire time, you’ve had nothing but childish ad hominems, hoping to distract from the fact that you have nothing.

          • I suggest you point your arrogant nose level with your eyes and start to look at reality. You posted racist philosophy while I posted what was going on with real people and real time. These people are not camel jockeys all formerly living in tents. And remember they had a civilization and an alphabet long before the Greeks did. To suggest that you are the superior civilization shows you know nothing of history and you are definitely not a product of higher education even though you pretend to be. Perhaps you had better register for History 101 and study the Phoenicians it just might lower your arrogance and ignorance down a couple of notches.

            • Racist, jlp? Do tell, what is the Muslim “race”?

              • Your call name “Cracker” really says it all. It really describes your Race to a tee. LOL.

        • No, I never posted anything racist, just that Islam is not compatible with Western Civilization, and that these are mostly illiterates – not doctors and lawyers. I already proved that with examples, you? You restate the same fantasy.

          I’m very well aware of the rich history of the ME. Interestingly enough, all that ended with the rise of Islam. All of it, math, science, history, libraries, all destroyed in the name of Islam. Never to return. Everybody knows that.

          Once again, I’m here for the duration. As long as you posit completely unsupportable nonsense, I will beat you over the head with facts. They’re for everyone else, you’re just the enemy, I have no illusions that you will listen to anything factual.

          • I do not get my information from rabid racists like yourself. I suggest you do some traveling or at least start watching some professional news media outlets. You will not learn anything as long as you stay in Podunk Junction and spend your time watching football or re-runs of the Andy Griffin show.

            Just last night on the DW News in Germany there was a round table 3 way discussion including a Syrian News Woman who immigrated to Germany and now works there in top news spots along with a man from India and another from Jordan. People who you in your rabid racist ignorance claim are illiterate camel jockey’s living in tents. They spoke of the Cologne incident and gave a top notch professional few of why it may or may not have happened and how it affected the people and the refugees (many who were handing out flowers at a train station to show Germans that you cannot lump all people into a single category of mad dog extremists something that is totally beyond your narrow minded comprehension. As Samuel Clemens once stated “Travel is the great destroyer of bigotry, prejudice and narrow mindedness. And by the way I laugh at your racist threats, I welcome them so I can expose you for what you really are, an ignorant racist conservative that would be most happy working at the gas chambers of the old Auschwitz concentration camp. Its up to me to make sure people like you never get the chance to construct such places ever again, its called being civilized with a large dose of modern civilized Socialism which takes care of people and slaps down your masters the greedy Capitalistic business men. Bring it on Herr Hauptman I don’t back down from a fight especially with someone like you, I like exposing you for what you really are. A person posing as pseudo intellectual couched in a Nazi Uniform.

          • And by the way your laughable reference to Dawkins and Muslims proves you are so racist it has clouded all logical thinking (if indeed you ever had any to begin with). Well you need a little education on who Dawkins is. He has made a living attacking all religions especially Christianity so he naturally would not miss a golden opportunity to beat up on Muslims. He was roundly criticized by all of Europe’s intellectuals and the news media for claiming Muslims should not have the right to wear a Burka as well as condemning their culture in its entirety. That is comparable to comparing all Americans to the Bundy Terrorists. Of course Europe’s intellectual community would be persona non-grata because of your warped Conservatism and I am sure you would have chastised them for acting like civilized human beings as it does not fit in with your warm feelings toward 1939 Germany.

        • Ahh yes, jlp, scream “Racist!” at the top of your lungs, it’ll do no good. Actual people who understand cultural warfare understand your pathetic whinings… And you mean nothing.

          You really are just getting completely incoherent as the babblings of madmen and fools always are.

          Do try to keep up kiddo.

          • Too bad you watch nothing but Glen Beck or Rush Limb Head. Your really making me laugh.

        • So once again, for the dozenth time, jlp has nothing but ad hominems to feed his nonsense.

          He can’t argue fact. He can’t argue history.

          All he has is made-up garbage. What a pathetic waste of oxygen.

          • Ah yes, The major news networks of the world are figments of my imagination that do not exist and their educational broadcasts are all Socialist Lies because you are the worlds expert on such subjects.

            Did you know dear Genius that the mambe pambe Socialist France has the highest industrial Worker output in the E.U. and even beats worker output in the so called more Capitalistic U.S. What say you to that dear Genius or is MSNBC News, Fareed Zakaria, France24 News, DW News all less well versed in this field than your genius mind on the subject. Go out and do something constructive and paint your out house.

    • Really? State-sponsored Yurrupean media can’t bring themselves to even report the coordinated New Years Eve gang-rapes and mob-molestations of hundreds of innocent women by “foreign refugees,” much less accurately identify the assailants as recent Middle-Eastern and North African Muslim immigrants, and we’re somehow at fault for not preferring those free-press poseurs to our own Fourth Estate/Fifth Column? Here’s a kindly tip, monsieur: After Dhimmicrats have acquiesced the West to Sharia, you’ll be next to have your heads handed to you.

      • Maybe its because they are not right wing prejudiced hate mongers and they are getting the facts on the case rather than screaming from the rooftops that due to osmosis you have discovered thousands of miles away from the scene that you know positively what happened and who did it even though thousands of people from all races, religions and walks of life were there. Naturally you are hyperventilating that it could have only been by one group of people because only the people you hate commit crimes. Sounds exactly as to what was said by some Southern people in the U.S. during the 1960’s in Selma Alabama. George Wallace comes to mind.

        • Or perhaps it’s because they are so in thrall to multicultural PC horseshit, they are oblivious to self-evident peril, present company included.

          • You can lead a man to knowledge but you cannot make him think.

        • You can lead a man to propaganda, but he can still smell the stink.

          Fixed it for ya jlp. You are now a painfully obvious Muslim troll. Black is white? All the facts on the ground belie your position, yet you still stay the course. Gotta love your statements of utter bullshit, that anyone who actually does keep current with events knows to be false.

          • Your post belies your educational level if there is any. LOL

        • Nothing again jlp but a desperate, sad ad hominem.

          If only you’d been taught critical thinking, logic, and debate in school, perhaps you’d have a chance…

          • Do you have anything more than hyperbole? If you passed any of these subjects you mentioned, as my college professor used to say “You should not have” LOL.

            • Your professor was Saul Alinsky, no doubt, of whom you were surely a standout student.

              • Why thank you very much for the compliment. For those not familiar with this great man here is a brief description of his accomplishments.

                Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was a Jewish American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

                In the course of nearly four decades of political organizing, Alinsky received much criticism, but also gained praise from many public figures. His organizing skills were focused on improving the living conditions of poor communities across North America. In the 1950s, he began turning his attention to improving conditions in the African-American ghettos, beginning with Chicago’s and later traveling to other ghettos in California, Michigan, New York City, and a dozen other “trouble spots”.

                His ideas were adapted in the 1960s by some U.S. college students and other young counterculture-era organizers, who used them as part of their strategies for organizing on campus and beyond.[5] Time magazine once wrote that “American democracy is being altered by Alinsky’s ideas,” and conservative author William F. Buckley said he was “very close to being an organizational genius”.[

        • So, how has that community organizing worked out for the blacks again? Generations mired in a handout society, with few actual gains for the masses. Meanwhile, those Asians…

          Alinsky was roundly skewered on ‘Firing Line’ by Buckley himself. Calling Alinsky a ‘genius’ was a condescending admission that his facile views were actually sellable to the low-information voters. Not that they were actually “genius”.

          Do try again….

          • I ask you what did the Conservative swine do for the betterment of the American poor except enslave them and rape them economically. And no Buckley was not being sarcastic in his statements about the man this you would have known if you knew anything about the man.

        • What did those conservatives do to help the poor? Provide the opportunity for those who work hard (and are a bit lucky) to get ahead. Remember those Asians that you touted as the ‘success story’? They are.
          Just like Indians (India, not Natives…).

          So your ‘activist’ has sweet FA to do with Asians or Indians, neither of which was “welcomed” into US society, but they tried to fit in, and became accepted, and have succeeded. The blacks that your activist ‘helped’? How does that turn out, again? That’s right, cultural unemployment, culturally proud to go to prison, culturally proud to be criminal, all the while enjoying the most obscene education and job discrimination in their favor.

          I watched ‘Firing Line’ as a kid, and read Buckley’s books as well. I’m pretty confident of my assessment, it’s in line with everything else the man ever did. But I guess you, who doesn’t even want to understand American culture, knows him better. Got it.

          • Yea I got it Your conservative buddies broke unions and are to this day making even what’s left working people into slave surfs working for minimum part time wages under working conditions that in some cases are far more dangerous to their health than it was long ago when at that time Unions could slap down your greed monger exploitive businessmen and shut down an entire plant or change work rules that just recently resulted in a truck driver for Wall-mart killing people in a traffic accident that never should have happened because he was forced to work obscene hours until he passed out behind the wheel. This is your conservative idea of an ideal worker slave union-less society. Now tell me how much the conservatives have ever done for the working people of this country except beat down their wages and ship all the manufacturing jobs over seas.

            And by the way Genius one of the people who luckily was able to survive this tragedy was a famous Black entertainer who according to you is only a worthless black second tier citizen who sits around on his off days receiving welfare so he can buy new Cadillac cars with his welfare checks. Yea sure don’t try and tell me how much people get on welfare and how great it is, I in the past have been there so don’t throw any of your high and mighty conservative bullshit at me. The U.S is an absolute disgrace on how it treats its people and I am going to give you one small example of what it is like to live in a civilized socialistic country. I am curious on what conservative bullshit spin you will put on this information. Read this and weep.

            http://usuncut.com/world/here-are-9-reasons-denmarks-socialist-economy-leaves-the-us-in-the-dust/

        • As like every single time before, you have nothing, so you make stuff up, and go off point.

          (You do realize that this wouldn’t have made it in HS debate, right? That’s ok, everybody else does…)

          Please, if you hate the US so much, leave. Despite the fact that your “brothers” wouldn’t let any of this stand without beheading you as an apostate.

          • Actually if fools like yourself would go back to Nazi Germany we Liberals could very quickly bring the U.S. into the 21 Century of good old fashion Socialism. When you sober up some time think about why all of the other major industrialized Nations of the World went Socialistic decades ago. Seems strange some of the most advanced Nations in the world never discovered that Socialism does not work after all these years.

            And lets not forget that according to major news networks not only in the U.S. but around the world document Wal-Mart is now the major employer of the new Workers Paradise in the U.S. that pays part time starvation wages and rapes the workers rights to form a Union.

            Now none of this is fact because according to your posts coming from your padded cell at the local Mental Institution is that all this is “stuff I have made up” because having self-anointed yourself the worlds most professional think tanks are all a figment of my imagination.

        • Do keep it up jlp, your brand of illiterate nonsense is both amusing and insane.

          • Only in your twisted mind.

    • The Refugee man with the little boy that was deliberately tripped by a Hungarian news woman made it to Spain and found employment as a soccer coach which was his prior profession which pointed out that many refugees are educated professionals not all lower working class people.”

      What a shame. not only that he made it to Spain, but in a country with 22.7% unemployment, this invader was able to take a job from a native. One who’s family likely paid into the system for decades, or centuries. Guess nobody else is a qualified ‘futbol’ coach in all of Spain? Disgusting.

      As to ‘educated professionals’ if you’re counting a soccer coach, well, compared to the rest of the dreck, perhaps. In the real world, hardly ‘educated’. The educated professionals are going to the US (and others) through the front door – and have no problems doing so. They want to be here, and they have something to contribute. The vast majority of economic refugees are not even literate, let alone some sort of prize. They will be an economic drain on their host countries for 6 generations or more on average.

      Please, take that multi-culti nonsense and put it where it belongs. In the garbage bin of history.

      • First of all dear Genius the refugees are coming not only from Syria but Iraq as well not to mention Afghanistan. Syria and Iraq had a civilization thousands of years before the U.S. was ever discovered and yes they know not only how to read and write but are multilingual as well. How many languages can you speak Cowboy. I dare say that a multi-lingual person in todays world of global completion is much likelmore y to secure employment than a person like yourself who can only speak English and even that only on the most basic level.

        • So, let’s address your ‘arguments’, as you have none…

          You have suggested that they are supposedly multi-lingual, when in fact the case is that they are mostly illiterate.

          http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/in_germany_nearly_23_of_syrian_refugees_are_functionally_illiterate.html

          (There’s 500 more citations where that came from…)

          Syria and Iraq had great civilizations.. Sorta true, until the advent of Islam, then it all went away, never to return…

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabia

          As to the ad hominem that I somehow cannot speak more than American English, I once again will disappoint you – I’m conversational in Spanish, French, and can read Italian. I also have some tacit knowledge of German and Ukrainian. As to my command of the English language, I’m quite capable of channeling my inner Buckley, whenever the situation warrants. But I generally stick with simpler prose as it’s more readily understood.

          Do come up with an actual argument, it might prove amusing.

          • If you could tear yourself away from the Rush Limb head show and watch some outstanding foreign news channels would see interview after interview and the refugees were speaking better English than most Right Wing Americans. As stated previously stated many speak French as well. Many stated what their previous professions and previous lives were like before the war came to them. Far from being the illiterate people your rabid right wing prejudices lead you to believe they owned and used computers, cell phones, and lived in modern cities not in huts with camels out in the desert. Please do not make all these ignorant statements about the bulk of refugees coming into Europe. Far from being a drag on the economy they will cause the economies of Europe to prosper. If you had studied the history of immigration coupled with economics, sociology etc. etc. you would realize how ignorant and prejudiced your statements in regards to immigrants and immigration really is. History has proven it many times over and continues to prove it to this very day. Assimilation into a host country is dependent on Governmental policies, programs and law and it is one of the few times that the North Americans have done a much better job of it than many of the European Countries but in spite of this the immigrant only takes just a little longer to become a success even in the restrictive business rules of many European societies and their often prejudicial attitude towards immigrants but gladly today it is far less than it was in years past.

            The U.S. caused this crisis and it has done the least to pitch in financially and take in its fair share of the refuges and in the process has actually shot itself in the foot as in the long run Europe will continue to outpace us in economic development and technology. Already Germany and Japan far outdistance us in robotics and medical science . Europe in general is far outpacing us in green technology as well. Immigrants down through history have proven over and over again they invigorate an economy and when right wing fanaticism bans immigration as been largely done here in the U.S. since the 1930’s it only hurts a nations economic well being in both the short and the long run.

        • So you still have no arguments, save for ad hominems? Does this ever end?

          I have never listened to Rush Limbaugh, and very little FOX news. I do watch the internationals, and see time and again them confirming my facts, not yours.

          These are illiterate, uneducated, useless invaders. Ones who are here to suckle at the public teat, then attempt to impose the same rules that had the last place they lived be a shit-hole too. The rest is just looking in the rear-view mirror, at immigrants who wanted to assimilate into their chosen societies, not obliterate them.

          Do try again…

          • Perhaps I will give your Genius a little slap down humiliation in regards to a History lesson you have never learned or wanted to as it would make clear to even your self how twisted your racist philosophy is,now pay attention Genius you may learn something.

            Benjamin Franklin stated that when the ill conceive revolutionary war was going on (but that’s another story) that the influx of Germans by the thousands would change America forever and ruin its way of life.

            When the Irish Catholics came to America in the late 1800’s they were discriminated against and hated by the local populations many of whom were Germans, When the Chinese came to America and built the first intercontinental railway they tried to send them all back after they had exploited them as slave labor.

            When the East Europeans came to America in the early 1900’s the Racist Klu Klux Klan got an anti- immigration law passed against them even though they had become model citizens in short order and filled badly needed labor jobs in the auto and steel industries.

            When the Latino’s and Cubans came they started businesses that employed many people which invigorated the economies of both Florida and California but that did not keep racists from screaming from the roof tops that they would ruin America forever. Ted Cruz your idol was the son of an immigrant father originally from Cuba. Donald Trump racist that he is strangely married not one but two foreign brides but continues to rant against anyone that is an immigrant. If I were Trump I would sleep with one eye open when in bed with his immigrant wife as even she might have finally had enough of his racist rants.

            American Muslims have assimilated just fine as their businesses and their profession abound in the U.S. My doctor, dentist, policeman are just a few examples of assimilation which totally refutes your nauseating racist rants in regards to them not being able to become Americans and being able to assimilate.

            In Arlington National Cemetery MSNBC news showed the graves of a Jew and Muslim both killed in battle in the U.S. Armed services and buried next to each other. Would you like to comment or completely ignore this fact because of your racist beliefs. I guess neither count as Americans in your twisted racist philosophy. Personally I would like to deport people like you so that the rest of us Americans could live in peace and harmony and not have to worry about a KKK cross burned in our yards. How many crosses have you burned lately it seems to be right up your line of work.

            • Which “race” are Latinos, Genius? Eastern Europeans? American Muslims? Since when do linguistic, geographical, or religious affiliations, instead of genetic and phenotypical characteristics, comprise a “race,” Genius?

              • Look junior quit playing a semantic game to so you can stick your nose up in the air inflate your already crushed ego. If you cannot win an argument then don’t change the main premise of the debate. When most people use race they are using the term loosely to describing an ethnic tribe or culture. Now since you do not have the intestinal fortitude to move your dead fingers across your keyboard I have done it fore you and here is Webster’s definition so you may no longer be confused over the term Race either being used as it was originally formulated instead of the more common use form today that most people use today. Lets face facts your not fooling anyone but your crushed ego as you knew exactly what I meant when I used the term “Race”.

                Medical Definition of race

                1
                1
                a: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group

                b: breed

                2
                2
                : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits

        • jlp, is what happens to kids who really don’t know anything, yet are told they know it all.

          We will start with out “ill-conceived” Revolution. Seemed to end well. My direct relatives were there. Yours?

          As to the shallow analysis of immigrants – it’s just that – shallow. Were you to have any of the historical knowledge which you continually chime on about, yet never seem to demonstrate, let me help again since apparently you’ve been here about 5 years.

          Yes, there were issues, but for all the hysteria (much of which was just to sell newspapers) the other side was just as loud – mostly, nobody really cared. The immigrants felt pressure to fit in, and it worked. Why? Because at the end of the day, we all share the same basic human rights, the same values. That’s what the US is, a shared culture, none of which has anything to do with Islam. At all.

          Latinos, Mexicans. Easter Euros that are here legally I have no problem with. Many are my good friends. They want to be here, and followed the rules to do it. Welcome to the country. The illegals? Put them all on a plane tomorrow. they drive down wages, cost the system tons of money, breed like uneducated people everywhere. They have done massive damage to the economy, all the while dripping in nonsense groups like La Raza and the rest. They don’t want to be one of us? Get the fuck out. And they actually share most values… On the other hand…

          Islam does not share those values, or even allow for their existence. So, fundamental problem with your ‘argument’. Please tell of one, just one, Muslim dominated shithole on the entire planet where you would enjoy the freedoms you do in the US. Please, I know the set is null, but I’ll wait while you fumble.

          Look, give up anything but a pretense of your ridiculous ‘religion’. Everywhere on the planet infected by Islam is a complete shithole, either living in the 8th century, or working it’s way there. Like my (very erudite) friend who works in a strip club, fast for Ramadan, lift the 12 or 13 verses that are kinda nice, use it as a cultural touchstone (he’s from Palestine) and ignore the entirety of the rest. Become American. It’s fun.

          • Good Lord! Racist Nazi’s like you send a chill down my spine. I guess its time for me to expose your for what you are or maybe I am being a little to hard on you. Maybe you need to have some civilized informative information thrown at you if you can get past your blind racism that is clouding any reason you still have. How about taking a trip through upper Ohio or lower Michigan. There are a multitude of Muslim businesses and now they will not rush out of their businesses with a suicide vest on and blow you and your car up (I am now laughing hysterically). Did you know that MSNBC news recently did as story on a town in Michigan where the entire city council are Muslims and no one panicked nor did the Muslims make everyone wear the Burka (again I am laughing hysterically).

            My doctor, dentist and local policeman as well as my mail carrier are all Muslims. Thank God I do not have any Himmler’s like you living in my neighborhood as I am afraid to inform you that I would not give you the stiff arm salute.

            Now Herr Himmler please tell me how these people have not fitted in quite well to U.S. Society eh? What kind of 1939 German spin can you doctor up on reality which of course you continue to ignore as you hide under hour bed each night with two .45 Colts and a full auto M16. If you do get a knock at your door by a Muslim business man he would probably be just returning a personal item you may have lost while shopping in his store (many Muslim store have been in business for decades). Whoops I forgot you would never shop at a Muslim store because according your propaganda Muslims have never been able to assimilate so therefore Muslims stores do not exist because you have said so and being self-anointed you are incapable of making an error.

        • “Illiterate Nazi”? Seriously, that’s what you’re playing with?

          Your “muslim” dentist, cop , and whatever else are going to be beheaded by the Musiims that will come. God, you are a twit.

          Regardless, all the Nazi stuff is amusing, yet not relevant. Do try again f-wit.

          • You must have run out of your Prozac today. Time to renew your prescription or you will be running down through your neighborhood yelling the Zombie Apocalypse is here.

          • Hey Genius, your Hitlerite statements about Muslims not being able to assimilate? Put this in your racist pipe and smoke it, obliviously the weed you have been smoking has fouled your brain. How about Fareed Zakaria one of the top News and Political Commentators in the World with his own televised series and interviews just about ever head of State presently in power. Of course you will opine he knows nothing as you have proclaimed it. Ever watch it, no of course not its an educational program. Fareed is a Muslim for your information Her Hauptman 16v. Amazing he could not assimilate into American Culture eh! Compare his yearly salary to yours, I am really laughing over this one.

32. Mr Farago please do you’re research right. The man in usa today put “foreigners” in quotation marks, because newer evidence suggests that many if not most of the attackers where at least third generation imigrants, many of which are German citizens.

    • Somehow I doubt these unsubs have actual Teutonic heritage. I furthermore doubt that their loyalties lie with the fatherland.

      • Under shariah (which means “the law”…actually, “the law of allah”), there can be no allegiance to any country or nation (maybe tribe), only allegiance to allah and Islam. No matter how many generations are spawned inside the infidel political boundaries.

33. Either the Germans are going to man up quick, or the national anthem will be changed to “Islam, Islam, Uber Alles”.
    Erwin Rommel, where are you now that your country needs you ?

34. Have there been any rape convictions at all yet? Until then, and unless they number in at least the tens, perhaps hundreds, this is more a story of feminist hysteria than of baaaad moooosleems. Not that the latter don’t exist. But they’re a lot less of a problem than progressivism and it’s ugly daughter, feminism.

    • Are you aware of the fact that in this day and age, enough people carry cellphones capable of taking videos, making your arguments sound ignorant at best?

      • I hate this time to take the side of the anti-woman protester but I have not seen any cell phone videos of the so called rapes and believe me it would have been all over European news programs by now. I have no doubt there probably was inappropriate behavior such a groping which again often takes place in unruly crowds of drunken young men out to raise hell on a holiday night. My question is who did grope, was it all Middle Easter Men or was it a mixture of a lot of unruly young men of all nationalities.

        • So, if something isn’t an outright rape, it doesn’t count? No other sexual assaults exist? Hands inside the pants of an undercover police officer, women’s clothing being torn off, that’s nothing but feminist hysteria? Would you dare to say that to your mother’s face?

          It would have been all over the news? Have you noticed that some of the media have actually admitted that they’ve censored the news? That people have been warned before going on air that linking those events to immigrants will not be allowed? That the police first described the celebrations as largely peaceful? And now there are more than 300 complaints of sexual assaults in Cologne alone?

          As far the identities of the Cologne suspects go, according to the last official report that I know of, half of them are asylum seekers, 25 out of 30 are of Moroccan or Algerian origin, many of those who are not asylum seekers are illegal immigrants instead. No suspects are ethnic Germans, the majority of them are Muslims.

          Look, I’m not calling for a witchhunt. But if people like you do all you can to protect those guilty of such crimes and if people like you work hard to deny the very existence of such problems, what you’re likely to accomplish is that the pressure in society will reach a point where common folks will abandon all hope of the state doing its job of providing basic safety and justice – and they will take matters into their own hands. Trying to deny the existence of bad apples might lead to a day when angry mobs might decide that it is better to have no apples at all.

          • The far right was very quick to point the finger at immigrants. Mass hysteria followed and it was all too easy to form a witch hunt for scape goats. As in all such instances there may have indeed been inappropriate behavior but in my past experience in such things , drunk horny men are not exclusively relegated to one race, religion or culture. To make blatant statements that it simply could not have been any ethnic white Germans is only to show blatant racism at its very worst. One only has to look at the behavior of the “skin heads” in Germany to see brutality against both immigrants and all women no matter what the nationality. Motor cycle gangs in Germany are also quite common and everyone knows that although not all motor cycle gangs are criminals there are plenty that revel in violence and rape. To deny that they also could never have done anything that night is to admit that reality is not reality and racism is clouding logical thinking.

        • “…pressure in society will reach a point where common folks will abandon all hope of the state doing its job…”

          That’s a feature. Sheep corralled into a lynch mob, are infinitely harder to route around, coexist with and, if push come to shove, deal with, than the minute share of individuals who might be completely incapable of submitting to any form of half-reasonable conduct.

          The gist of this post, this being a gun blog and all, is that people should be packing. Or, strike that, at least not be prohibited from packing. Including the women on your cell phone. That’s great. And how things should be. But, does any of your cell phone footage of these horrible foreigners, display situations warranting a half naked, drunk party girl, willingly stumbling into areas highly likely to contain equally drunk, potentially “lewd” males, pulling her (presumably open carried, as concealment garments are in somewhat short supply) gun and shooting the guy?

          If so, fine. Be my guest and blow the dude away. But conversely, if whatever Mr. Brownskin did to her, does not warrant her blowing him away, neither does it warrant me, nor all those German women who bother to go through the trouble of avoiding high risk behavior, paying to hire storm troopers to do it on Ms. Supposedly-Not-A-Whore-but-Plays-One-On-New-Years-Eve’s behalf. One reason armed societies, where the emphasis is on taking care of yourself, are preferable to totalitarian sheepfarms, is that before resorting to armed resistance, there is a presumption that the armed citizen take some minimal precautions to, if possible, avoid getting into situations that may require lethal response. Something it seems those bent on outsourcing their defense to whatever totalitarian hack looks sharpest on TV, seem categorically incapable of recognizing as a virtue. Par for the course in Idiotopia I presume, but the POTG ought to be held to, as well as holding themselves to, a somewhat higher standard than that.

        • “..the anti-woman protester..”

          Anti Government. Not woman.

          Women are, as a rule, born weaker and less aggressive than men.

          What should follow from that, is that they should be more careful. Particularly around men. And doubly so around men that may be unusually aggressive. And triply so, on occasions that tends to bring out the drunken worst in some. I.E., if concerned for their safety and comfort, they could, for example, make an effort to avoid places and occasions where unwanted transgressions are most likely. And/Or, they could dress in a manner that minimized risk (Burka big enough to conceal a potential hair trigger bomb vest come to mind, but I’m sure there are less controversial compromises). And/Or, they could travel with male (preferably armed) escort. And/Or, arm themselves. All perfectly fine, time proven and non problematic solutions to the disparity in physical strength and, often, comfort wrt intimacy.

          What should specifically not follow from her relative physical weakness, is government intervention on her behalf, if she chooses to disregard every historically suggested mode of conduct for minimizing the risk she faces.

        • @Stuki Moi: half-naked party girls? Have you noticed that it was fricking New Years Eve in northern Germany? So temperatures were definitely not conductive to intentional half-nakedness?

          Besides, your argument can be shortened to “they asked for it”, and that doesn’t require further comment.

        • @jlp: so you’re saying that what has happened was okay because other people commit crimes too?

          And can you cite *one* example where a group of 1000+ plus native Germans gathered to commit 300+ sexual assaults on a single night in a single place while police stood around doing nothing to protect the victims?

          And can you add an example of a case where the police and media subsequently tried to deny and cover up both the extent of the crimes and the identities of the suspects?

          • I see you have never been to Germany. They have viscous motor cycle gangs and gangs of extremely violent right wing “Skin Heads” who still worship Adolf Hitler. Both groups are know for rape and even murder. Now are you saying after both these groups got all drunked up and horny that they suddenly turned Angelic and could not possibly have done anything inappropriate. Face reality sex crimes are never restricted to one race or religion especially when it comes to young drunked up horny men.

        • FYI, I *have* been to Germany, I live in Czech Republic so it is not that far from here.

          And you’re not answering my question, you’re repeatedly arguing that some other people commit crimes too. But that doesn’t make the New Year’s Eve incidents less criminal. Have I ever advocated for neonazis? I case you haven’t noticed, I’m from a country that got occupied by Germans and whose people were, by and large, considered lesser people, so it is not like I have reasons to root for them. But are you really suggesting that 300+ sexual assaults on a single night in a single city should not be considered exceptional?

          I’ll repeat my question. Can you cite just *one* case from the last half-century of 1000+ ethnic Europeans commiting 100+ sexual assaults in a single city during a single night while the police stood around and did nothing to help the victims?

          Can you cite just *one* example from the last half-century where, when the guilty were ethnic Europeans, both the police and the media tried to downplay both the scale of the incidents and the identities of suspects?

          Or will you simply go on repeating the fact that other people commit crimes too?

          • Can you prove that the number of incidents were actually 300 and also who actually did commit all of them. No of course you can’t and so far not the police or the news media has been able to substantiate much of the allegations and that’s fact not rampant xenophobia and paranoia.

        • Are you saying that a majority of the complaints are false?

          Even though none of the police have indicated anything such? When it is in police’s interest to disprove any false accusations?

          The police, the media, the politicians are all taking the approximate reported numbers of attacks at face value, even though they all have good reasons to show the world that the incident was less serious than it is being reported. Do you really think that they would stay silent if they had any reasonable proof that a noticeable percentage of the complaints are unsubstantiated? Are you telling us that you are the one true clairvoyant who knows more than German police?

          Or are you trying to say that when the police fail to identify, apprehend and convict a criminal, the crime hasn’t happened? That when the justice system is unable to convict a sex offender guilty of a given crime, that crime should not be included in statistics?

          • Your reading comprehension in conjunction with your attempts to twist my posts prove beyond doubt you would be the first to volunteer to work if gas chambers were once again built in Europe. People like you prove Nazism is alive and well in Europe. Remember a lot of Europeans totally agreed with what the Nazi’s did in WWII to this very day. I remember a few years ago a former Austrian Nazi ran for political office. The News Media exposed his past and far from destroying his candidacy the people overwhelmingly elected him when they found out he was a former Nazi. He became a real celebrity.

        • So you got no answers to simple questions?

          Insults and accusations is all you’re capable of?

          I did basically little more than quote the facts that German police reported and do not doubt. Are you telling us that those official reports are wrong?

          Or are you calling me a Nazi because I’m pointing out information you dislike?

          As I’ve said before, attempts to protect those guilty of sexual abuse, to deny the very fact of those crimes, to blame the victims and to attack those hoping for justice can only lead to one thing. More people becoming convicted that the justice system has failed.

          I’m advocating for unbiased investigation. You’re saying there’s hardly anything to investigate – when even German police admit that there’s a lot to investigate and that they’ve failed in their duty. Which option does more to incite hatred?

          • Once again you fail to comprehend what I stated and that is until we have cell phone images, or arrests we will not know how many people there were, who they were, what race they were, etc. etc. Again I have been through incidents like this before and Mass Hysteria builds quickly during incidents like this. Its only later when people calm down and real facts are known that we will we get a clear picture of what really happened. Jumping immediately on the “Boogey Man Muslim Connection” is racism at its worst.

            Remember too that many countries have different ways of reporting sexual misconduct as well which often gets misunderstood or blown out of proportion when another countries people try to interpret the results. The sexual misconduct statistics of Sweden along with the Julian Assad story often comes to mind. Rape statistics with that country as compared to the U.S. method of recording rape often leads to a gross misinterpretation of how prevalent rape is in both counties. Example: In one country of one woman is raped multiple times and each time is recorded even though it is from one incident while in another country it is recorded not multiple times on the same woman but only one time. As you can see the one countries statistics will appear that rape is out of control with thousand of rapes and another country’s rapes will appear to be 10 times or more less even though in reality the amount of actual incidents were exactly the same in both countries. Of course this is only one simple explanation as it is often way more complicated than that when comparing how various countries record sexual misconduct.

        • Congratulations, your trolling has surpassed my patience.

          Feel free to enjoy having the last word here, I’m not even going to waste more time checking this debate again.

          • That is because I race in a Quadriga.

        • “half-naked party girls? Have you noticed that it was fricking New Years Eve in northern Germany? So temperatures were definitely not conductive to intentional half-nakedness?”
          Care to go back and check some of the “evidence” on your cell phone? I spent New Years in Sweden. Further North in Europe. Colder. By any historical standard, at least for the season, half naked is, if anything, an understatement. Do German partygirls generally wear attire conducive to concealing full size 1911s in your experience?

          Besides, your argument can be shortened to “they asked for it”, and that doesn’t require further comment.

          It does require further comment. As in, asked for attention. Got perhaps more, and of a different kind, than hoped for. Lived and, you’d hope, learned. Besides, not “asking for it” is not a high enough standard when it comes to dragging in the storm troopers in a limited government, free society. They also have to demonstrably have made a solid, honest best effort to do the best they can, to avoid being victimized in the first place. Plunging drunk and barely dressed into a crowd of predictably drunk, lewd males does in no way meet such a standard.

          I’m not arguing that groping women uninvited is, per se, a good thing. It’s not. But if the women in question themselves aren’t concerned enough about it to first do all in their own power to avoid it, it sure as heck isn’t enough of a concern to get the state involved. Coincidentally, or perhaps not, the threshold for when getting the state involved may be reasonable, isn’t far removed from the threshold for when it would be OK for the women in question to respond to the supposed “assault”, with lethal force.

          IOW, if someone assaults you, you are fully within your right to add to the New Years Eve fireworks by blowing them away. And conversely, if you are not within your right to do so, quit cheapening the meaning of “assault”, as some people do have experience with the real, non hysteric, thing.

          • Actually in many European countries you do not have the right to self-defense and its written right into the laws. Deadly force is reserved for the police only and sometimes even they have severe restrictions on using it.

            Believe it or not many people in the U.S. would also like to see just such a law passed in the U.S. and in some far left East and West Coast U.S. States that it comes to pass may not be as far fetched as it sounds even though to logical people such a law would be illogical.

        • Stuki and Martin, jlp is a sad little child. One who cannot back his allegations with fact, nor even stay on point. Because that would sink him.

          Try as he might to defend Islam, he can’t. But he’s still going to try, all the logical fallacies be damned.

          • Ah yes according to you I cannot prove that 6 million Muslims exist and work and own businesses and have become professionals after attaining college degrees and have assimilated quite well into our society. According to you they do not exist and any that have snuck into the U.S. are running down the streets blowing themselves up with suicide vests. All this must be true because according to you the only reality that exists is your view according to what you wish the U.S. would be like with drums beating and people giving the stiff armed salute to you as you goose step down the street and make patriotic speeches about the latest country you have bombed or invaded. Sorry Himmler I am not one of you.

        • Once again, you scream racism!, yet it’s still culturalism. Has nothing to do with race.

          Your Muslims have only ‘assimilated’ until there’s enough of them allowed in to start actually following the Quran, and beheading unbelievers. No matter where you go on planet earth, as soon as Muslims have a foothold, the place turns into a shithole. Has since the emergence of Islam, in every country infected since forever.

          You have an argument against only Dawkins? Do tell? As he has nothing but fact, just like the rest.

          Try again….

          • How many times do I have to drill into your thick rabid deranged racist scull in regards to the millions not thousands of U.S. Muslims that have made a success of their life in America. You keep dodging this fact because your deranged hateful mind refuses to accept reality. Of course they all do not exist because you say it is so.

          • And by the way I almost forgot to mention I will be giving you updates as more a more of the Syria Refugees arrive. I know you will appreciate this so you can cower under your bed with your full loaded M16 and fantasize about the coming Zombie Apocalypse. Meanwhile the mail will still be delivered by Americans who are Muslims, you will actually be protected by American Police some of which are Muslim. The U.S. Armed Services will still have American Muslims Soldiers, and local city councils will still be staffed by legally elected Muslims. All of which are people who do not exist because according to your Prozac polluted mind do not exist because you have said I make all this stuff up. Really!

            • Fine American Muslim soldiers (of Allah) like Maj. Nidal Hasan, recently of Fort Hood and lately of Fort Leavenworth? Got’cha!

              • Your racist hate prevents you form differentiating between a mentally ill person and an entire religion. and it is a shameful attack on the American Muslims that gave their lives for America. You conveniently ignore Dylan Roof and his terrorist attack on the black church while waving the Confederate flag. Did you cheer over that one? And two summers ago another deranged so called Christian shot people coming out of a non-Christian church which of course you again conveniently ignore.

              • Apples and oranges, Hajji. Roof is a one-off loon. Hasan was found competent to stand trail. Your attempted moral equivalence is expected, but nonetheless wrong and despicable. Get back to us when Christians fly hijacked airliners into buildings, shoot up unarmed county employees attending a Christmas party, or behead a nice middle-age Christian lady at work, all the while shouting “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!”

              • I could quote you pages of incidents of mentally ill nut cases that blew up air planes and who were not Muslims but of course all of this you again conveniently ignore because you like Hitler lump entire races, religions and cultures into the “Boogie Man” while walking around bumping into walls with nose held high proclaiming you are part of the “Master Race” the good people, who never committed so much as a misdemeanor traffic ticket and then maybe not even that.

                If I wanted to start another fight I could give you a good dose of U.S. Military History if you would like to compared mass murder committed by Muslims and also Americans but that would force you to face the reality of History something you know nothing about and that has been very obvious throughout this whole ordeal.

              • Pedophile prophet, anyone?

              • Whenever you point the finger at someone you have 3 fingers pointing right back at yourself. Tushay!

              • It’s “touché,” tushy. And no, you didn’t touch me.

              • Don’t worry eventually I will drill some knowledge through your cement head.

          • How is that for trying again? Give up Herr Hauptman your out of your class, your making a fool out of yourself. Well I have to go now my unassimilated Muslim Mail Man is knocking at my door, you know the one who does not exist.

        • Except you can’t give us pages of those who blew up planes for anything but Islam. They don’t exist, and we all know it because actual fact says so. Try again…

          Seriously all your “nazi” bullshit is seen for what it is – bullshit.

          Try a different tact, on those who don’t know better. On us? It’s a sad joke, as are your allegations.

          • Don’t stop the paranoia now. Keep going. The stock market fall, hang nails, to many sparrows in your back yard and global warming were all caused by the Muslim boogie man because Rush Limb Head told you so. It must be tough trying to post things from underneath your bed but I guess you feel more safe there.

          • Cheer up at least you did not have to post your updates from Mein Kampf the old fashioned way with a typewriter. Its much easier under your bed with a computer.

          • Herr Hauptmann here is another Muslim who you say does not exist or has not assimilated. Sbe is a paleontologist, archeologist and for a hobby is also a stand up comic who works for National Geographic and yes she knows how to use a computer and no she does not live in a tent with camels. Her name is Ella Al-Shamahi. Of course you will not click on the link and read about her accomplishments because they are contrary to your entrenched ignorance and racial hate in regards to the worlds people and their accomplishments. You keep screaming for proof and then when you get it you claim it does not exist.

            http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers/bios/2015/ella-al-shamahi/

          • And as far as air crashes you nit wit how about this year when the White German Pilot deliberately crashed his plane into the side of a mountain killing everyone on board. Even the President of France flew to the crash site. Of course you know nothing of this obviously. Again if you right wing racists would bother watching European news programs rather than Glen Preck Head ranting and raving you would be well aware that crash was only one of many.

35. You know, everything from the shoah to the mass rape could’ve been avoided if middle easterners weren’t in Germany. Food for thought.

    • Ok, pretty sure the ban hammer gonna come down, but Ashkenazi have tons of European DNA. Yes, they’re a middle man minority, and Talmudic reason directed towards host culture can be corrosive, but they were turned into lampshade and soap, despite the fact many of them viewed themselves as Deutsch. Muslim software is battle plan masquerading as religion. Two different things.

36. The world is getting kind of crazy isn’t it? Does this not put paid to the “it doesn’t happen here” crap? I mean I’ll take our current problems over this any day.

37. Damn Bobby, you really kicked the hornets nest with this one. Socialist euro-trolls and everything in the comments. This is almost as funny of a comment section as any on YouTube. Well done.

38. So, what good are guns? Given these assaults, I would like to address three arguments the anti-gun folks use:

    1 – Why would anyone ever need more than 7 shots in their gun? Maybe when you’re surrounded by hundreds of men sexually assaulting you, having a few more shots would be good.

    2 – Why would you ever need deadly force? Well, a woman who is outnumbered, and BTW smaller than most of her many attackers could maybe use an equalizer when harsh language or pleas aren’t working.

    3 – The horrible risk of the gun being used to harm you, through accidental discharge, or ease of suicide, or whatever … might indeed be outweighed to being able to stop yourself from being raped. Which is also a harm.

    Any questions?

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