We reported on Monday how former President Donald Trump’s selection of U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio was a good one as far as the Second Amendment is concerned. Of course, the real way to tell whether that analysis is accurate or not is to see what gun-haters are saying about the selection.
From Everytown for Gun Safety to Moms Demand Action to Giffords to the Brady Campaign, gun-ban groups seem to hate Vance as much as they do Trump. And that’s a good sign for those of us on the freedom side of the Second Amendment debate.
“Gun violence impacts Americans from all political stripes. Donald Trump’s pick for vice president has a record of undermining the gun violence prevention movement,” said head Mom Angela Ferrell-Zabala. “We refuse to accept gun violence as the status quo, and our volunteers are already mobilizing voters and working to elect gun sense champions up and down the ballot.”
Not to be outdone, Everytown President John Feinblatt also had to weigh in on the Vance selection, as well as the failed assassination attempt on Trump.
“Despite Trump and Vance’s failed records on gun safety, the Trump-Vance ticket must take a serious and clear-eyed look at common-sense gun safety measures if any chance of ‘unity’ is possible,” Feinblatt said Everytown. “As Saturday demonstrated, no one—not even the former president—is safe from gun violence. Now is a moment for true reflection and bipartisan action on gun safety that reflects the will of the vast majority of voters.”
Of course, Feinblatt didn’t mention how gun control would have stopped the shooting. It’s just more pie-in-the-sky wish in one hand, shit in the other from those with no real solutions.
Citing Vance’s endorsement by the National Rifle Association during his race for the Senate, the folks at Giffords also were frustrated that Trump had made him his running mate.
“Despite what you heard tonight, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance have promised the gun lobby they would repeal President Biden’s popular, bipartisan gun safety law that finally criminalized trafficking guns to violent drug cartels,” said Emma Brown, Giffords executive director. “Last weekend’s horrific assassination attempt demonstrated that no level of security can guarantee anyone’s safety—not even a former president’s—when dangerous people have easy access to weapons of war. Republicans and Democrats alike are concerned about gun violence in this country, yet Donald Trump and JD Vance have consistently put gun industry profits over the safety of American communities. We owe it to future generations to keep this pair out of the White House.”
Even the Brady campaign got in on the Vance bashing. And they continued the trend of blaming the gun not the gunman, insinuating that the response to the Trump assassination attempt should be more restrictive gun control laws.
“Just days after their party leader was shot and hundreds of others across the country killed and injured as a result of guns, Republican leaders failed to offer any solutions to the rising crisis of gun violence,” said Brady President Kris Brown. “Instead, they used the RNC—an event that millions of voters tun into—to mock Trump’s gunshot injury, brag about irresponsible gun ownership and give away AR-15s.”
With increased reporting that President Joe Biden might step out of the presidential race, making it anyone’s guess who the Democrat candidate would be, Brown made it clear that he’s in favor of anyone but the pro-gun candidates on the Republican ticket.
“This week reaffirmed what we’ve known all along: Safety is on the ballot in November,” he said. “Guns are the number one killer of youth in America. Do we want leaders who will stand up for the well-being of our kids and communities? Or do we want leaders who will continue to ignore gun violence—even as more than 300 people are shot every single day in this country?”
Yep, gun-ban groups hate J.D. Vance with a passion. And that fact makes me like him even more.
Gun ban groups hate him.
Neocons and neolibs hate him.
Globalists hate him.
Warmongers hate him.
Wall Street hates him.
Mega donors hate him.
All the right people hate him.
I really hope this is the end of the country club, war profiteering, token opposition bullshit republicrats we’ve had to put up with for so many decades.
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“All the right people hate him.”
Amen! That’s how you know it was a good choice.
If you want to Defend the Second Amendment you do not pick up Gun Control’s Gun-Violence football and run with it. That’s what happens when well meaning people constantly hear concocted buzzwords like Gun Violence repeated. People run with concocted crap without realizing they are waterboys for those who have grown comfortable with concocting buzzwords and labels like Saturday Night Special, Weapons of War, Assault Weapons, Undetectable, etc. Bottom line…Violence is Violence, leave it at that.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3gL1idCDZ2k&feature=shared
Whatever the number is of people shot every day, the fact is that they are shot by DEMOCRATS.
How about we prohibit the ownership of guns by Democrats?
Eradicate them like the infectious pests they are?
Reeducation is the key.
The Republican ticket has been solidly endorsed by those who believe in exercising their 2nd Amendment rights, that’s plenty good for this voting citizen.
“We refuse to accept gun violence as the status quo”. So the left votes in AGs who in turn release all those aspiring valedictorians back onto the streets. And they wonder why we call them left-tards.
At least some people appear to be waking up. Word is that some young, prominent “influencers” are switching support from Biden to Trump. I heard this before the assassination attempt. I’m not sure if that is from some sort of understanding of the situation, or just jumping from a sinking ship. Either way, it can’t hurt.
Van Jones said that Amber Rose’s speech at the convention was the most damaging to Democrats. He seems to be in tune with that sort of thing, so I believe him. In her speech, she said that she had previously believed the lies about Trump.
Let us remember that Trump is hardly a true Second Amendment defender. He has no problem with Red Flag laws and was okay with the ATF claiming a bump stock was a machine gun. That the NRA backs Vance means not too much, as the NRA has been on the wrong side of gun control more often than anyone wants to know. Ever notice how the NRA doesn’t have its long and glorious history on their website? It is because they have backed all major destructions of the Second Amendment starting in the 1930s and especially during the 1960s. Remember, they were okay with Clinton’s “assault rifle” ban. Not to mention, a cool $2 million of hard-earned money from members pumped to their illustrious leader, LaPierre. I used to be a member a long time ago, but when they rebuffed Jeff Knox (unsure on first name) for reforms, etc. I left a long time ago and never looked back.
The NRA is useful as a straw man for the left to focus their attention on while FPC, GOA and others get the real work done.
It’s worth keeping them around if only for that purpose.
Oh I agree Wha. I gotta random call from an NRA gal & promptly hung up. No plans on rejoining but they “seem” to be putting some effort into “reform”. We’ll see…TRUMP/VANCE 2024!
jtc is the exact kind of politically inept butt spewing dumbfuk who held hands with democRats and put Jim Crow Gun Control joe where he is today.
Since jtc is such an expert perhaps he can say what he would have done following Vegas…
1) Tossed bumpstocks under the bus by an easily reversible EO or court.
2) Sat back and let a knee jerk congress take the wheel and risk banning a Laundry List of Products including binary triggers by a not easily reversible Act of Congress; a congrees that could have overrode a Veto.
It’s dumbfuks like jtc who read the Trump slandering headlines, listen to the opinion of some fatazz Gun talking blowbag on ar15.comedyclub and run with it without a second thought.
TRUMP/VANCE 2024.
Your choices are Trump, Biden, RFK, Jr., or that lib guy (who used to work for Obama) that wants open borders and draggg* queen story hour. What’s your point?
*avoiding moderation
* – wouldn’t that BE biden?
You can’t say drag (plus) queen without getting caught in the moderation filter.
The only actual choices are Trump or Biden of course. If anyone is still bringing up the bump stock thing at this point, I have to wonder about the motives.
Supporters of the fascist left always show up at election time to try and convince us that we’re supporting the wrong dude.
Talk is cheap Dude. A public record of banning bearable arms and infringing on the 2A is going to be hard to ever turn around. We shall see. Vance adds a lot of good lean meat to the shit sandwich that is DJTs record with the RKBA. But it is going to take a whole lot of meat to wash out the taste of that shit that we’ve already had to chew here.
Never Forget -maybe forgive but never ever forget.
Yes, Trump and Biden have very different records. I choose Trump. I also have reason to believe there will be some good changes on a potential second term.
I think it’s very telling that certain commenters around here bring up Trump’s bump stock and red flag talk much more than Biden’s constant talk about banning just about everything everything except a “hunting” rifle or shotgun (which would eventually be banned). People apparently don’t understand that election fraud is a much bigger threat than a bump stock ban (which was overruled by Trump’s SC picks). But, keep up the fearmongering, and be sure to throw away your vote on third party or write in so you can always complain, no matter who wins.
You really do make.a lot of assumptions there Dude.
I never ever said that FJB was anything but a sack of s on just about every issue under the sun -plus a crook who took money from Ukraine and.China for god only knows what deals.
But we could have done SoOOOOOOO much better than DJT who is pretty darn weak tea on the 2A. Facts are facts. The RKBA community’s willingness to bend down and worship a marginal candidate only because he isn’t the total P O S that the other guy is strikes me as something I find quite disturbing. I tend to distrust anyone who carries water for that guy at the expense of much better warriors who will actually fight for our RKBA.
Yes, but you’re always bringing up the bump stock thing, just like the leftist trolls that hang out here. How many people died because bump stocks were banned for a while due to executive overreach? How much of the population was really impacted by that? You’re making a mountain out of a molehill because you never liked Trump.
Do you want to talk about executive overreach? How much time do you have? Do you want to talk about bad policy having a real negative impact on, not just American citizens, but the entire world? We would be here all day. Over half a million Ukrainians are dead because Hillary tried to take down Trump with the Russian collusion hoax, and because the wrong guy “won” in 2020. And you want to cry about a barely noticed federal overreach that was eventually corrected by the Supreme Court full of Trump picks?? Now imagine Hillary’s SC picks. She would have banned bump stocks too, and they would still be banned. Now we have an awesome precedent that reins in exec agency rules.
Then you equate support of Trump to worshiping him. Again, you sound exactly like a loony Democrat. I know you’re not one. I’m only saying that you sound like them. How are you helping? What are you doing to make sure we don’t have more incidents like the bump stock ban? We have a system of checks and balances in our government to prevent that sort of overreach. Democrats have been openly discussing various strategies to change the makeup of the SC. We can’t give them an inch.
The problem we now face is Biden dropping out of the race. I had my doubts that Trump would even win over Biden. The good thing was that the world would finally understand that our elections are fraudulent. People would finally demand change. Switching out the nominee now gives Dems the Biden family’s favorite thing: plausible deniability. They’ll say Trump had too many negatives. Sure he was still ahead in the polls. Sure people found out that they actually hated Democrat policies under Biden. But it’s no longer Biden. People were ready to give a different Democrat a chance (with the exact same policies).
You can’t overcome certain levels of cheating with more votes. It might be impossible for Trump to win in any Democrat-controlled state because they control the elections. We know part of that strategy is to get ballots to illegals. We know that because Dems voted against making sure illegals don’t vote in our elections. They even admitted it! On the house floor, one literally said the legislation was xenophobic! You don’t want them to vote in your elections because you have an unreasonable fear of foreigners? What?!
Of course Trump isn’t the best 2A guy. Guess what? The best 2A guys may never get the nomination. And if they get the nomination, they may never win the general. (We currently have a two party system. You don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t change reality.) You have to appeal to lots of people with different priorities in order to win. That means the best 2A guy is the one that could win and nominate good judges. As of now it’s Trump vs Biden (or Harris et al). Trump wasn’t my pick in the 2016 primary. I thought Rand Paul sounded the best. Rand Paul isn’t charismatic enough to win.
Fuck them.
No thank you. Mom’s might demand action but they aren’t getting any from me. Stay single -spend your money on guns and fun stuff and let them support themselves from now on.
“…said Brady President Kris Brown. ‘Instead, they used the RNC—an event that millions of voters tun into—to mock Trump’s gunshot injury, brag about irresponsible gun ownership…”
That’s a lie….none of that happened.
“ ‘Despite Trump and Vance’s failed records on gun safety, the Trump-Vance ticket must take a serious and clear-eyed look at common-sense gun safety measures if any chance of ‘unity’ is possible,’ Feinblatt said”
“common-sense gun safety measures” – there it is again…”common sense”, but now with ‘unity’.
First, taking away or infringing constitutional rights of millions of law abiding American citizens is not “common sense” – its tyranny. Its not just the second amendment you guys have been trying to attack, you don’t say anything about it much publicly but these groups actions directly and indirectly and under other guises and identities speak louder than words in the legal actions they are involved in that attack the first, fourth, fifth, tenth, and fourteenth amendments trying to gain control over them to impose the will of the elites, government, and your gun control groups.
Second, you completely ignored the call and intent to do something about getting rid of all this violent crime that’s responsible 99.9% of the so called ‘gun violence, the very violent crime you Feinblatt and you Kris Brown and the left wing ‘progressives’ facilitate and the left-wing mentally ill seem to want to flourish by constantly trying make millions of law abiding American citizens the scapegoat for it if they happen to also own a firearm and even if they don’t.
So no, Trump and Vance and millions of law abiding Americans do not want ‘unity’ with you social-ist marx-ist communist tyrants. That’s what really upsets you, that we as a cohort and generation and society group will simply not bend to your will and we don’t do that because its ‘common sense’ to not surrender liberty and freedom to you.
jtc, waterhead —
Leticia thanks you for service. I do not.
Meanwhile in Chicago…..
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Liberal snowflakes hate him, he must be OK.
Well since the latest reports are that slow joe has ‘decided’ to not run for president (won’t dignify what he is as a first term) a lot of the comments are now moot.
As I have pointed out numerous times on numerous forums/threads, IF the antis spent even a tiny fraction of their efforts to combat ‘gun violence’ on actually doing something about criminals we would all be a lot better off. Nah, that ain’t gonna happen since targeting (pun intended) criminals, especially repeat offenders, would eliminate one of their favorite stalking horses that they use to attempt to assert even more control over the great unwashed masses.
Forgot to add to my previous comment a reminder that DJT grew up in noo yawk and had limited exposure to guns and the 2nd Amendment. Never mind that as is typical of that demographic he tends to shoot from the hip (pun intended) in many of his decisions and all too often he has gotten bad advice from his advisors, many of whom are no more informed of gun issues than he is.
NOTE I am not defending some of his decisions by any means but realistically, who else would be a better choice at this time?
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