[Read TTAG’s review of the Remington 870 DM HERE]
Quick…when you think of a pump shotgun, what’s the first one that comes to mind? It’s probably the venerable Remington 870. And for good reason. There aren’t many more versatile, affordable pump guns sold…perfect for use in roles from home defense to hunting to breaking clays to SHTF scenarios (read our review here). Now Big Green has taken the classic 870 design and given it a capacity upgrade.
Their new line of magazine-fed 870 DM (detachable magazine, in case you couldn’t decipher that) ships with a single six-round mag giving you seven rounds of quickly re-loadable, heavy hitting firepower — pretty handy to have in a home defense scattergun. And they’re making the DM’s in five different flavors . . .
870 DM (81350)
- 6 Round Detachable Magazine
- Black Synthetic Stock with Super Cell Recoil Pad
- Tactical “Corn Cob” Forend
- 18.5 Inch Fixed Cylinder Bore Barrel
- MSRP – $529.00
870 DM Magpul (81352)
- 6 Round Detachable Magazine
- Magpul SGA Stock with Super Cell Recoil Pad
- Magpul MOE M-LOK Forend
- 18.5 Inch Rem Choke Barrel with Extended Ported Tactical Choke
- XS Steel Front Sight, XS Tactical Rail/Ghost Ring Rear Sight
- MSRP – $799.00
870 DM Tactical / Predator (81354)
- 3 and 6 Round Detachable Magazines
- Over Molded ShurShot Thumbhole Stock with Super Cell Recoil Pad
- Tactical “Corn Cob” Fore-end
- 18.5 Inch Rem Choke Barrel with two Trulock Extended Chokes (Boar Blaster and Turkey /Predator)
- XS Steel Front Sight, XS Tactical Rail/Ghost Ring Rear Sight
- Kryptek Highlander Camo
- MSRP – $799.00
870 DM Hardwood (81351)
- 6 Round Detachable Magazine
- Hardwood Stock and Fore-end
- 18.5 Inch Cylinder Bore Barrel
- Bead Sight
- MSRP – $529
870 DM Tactical (81360)
- 6 Round Detachable Magazine
- Pistol Grip Buttstock and Tactical “Corn Cob” Fore-end
- 18.5 Inch barrel with Extended Ported Tactical Choke
- XS Steel Front Sight, XS Tactical Rail/Ghost Ring Rear Sight
- MSRP – $799
But wait…there’s more! Remmy’s also added magazine capacity to their non-NFA Tac-14 non-shotgun shotgun . . .
870 DM Tac-14 (81348)
- 6 Round Detachable Magazine
- Shockwave Grip and Magpul Fore-end
- 14 Inch Cylinder Bore barrel
- Bead Sight
- MSRP – $559
I shot a prototype version and while it was slightly stiffer to rack than a standard 870, it cycled flawlessly. Look for our review soon.
The entire background check systems is 100% security theater as is. More than that I have a sneaking suspension that this entire list of 4000 or so prohibited persons is going to end up being nothing but a list of veterans who made the mistake of talking to someone at the VA about their problems.
Some of the Russian semi auto shotguns required different mags for different length of shotgun shells.
Does this gun require that?
For me, it’s 40S&W (the do-all round) and the 22 Magnum (the pocket protector.) I thusly summon forth the comments of dissent! 😁
How is it not NY legal ?
Safe act states ” any pump , lever , or bolt action shotgun can not be an assault rifle .”
Hey look, everyone. It’s Remington. And they’re ‘innovating’, or something. Or not.
I’d say, “nice try”, but it’s actually quite a miserable, pathetic, and desperate attempt for relevancy.
Meh…we got UBC in Illinois. Pain in the azz but no real difference to ME. And I already have reciprocity with states I’m likely to traverse. How about Constitutional Carry for the win?!?
Retired Generals need to give up all their arms before anyone else.
38 Super and 9mm in that order.
“Remington Announces New Line of 870 DM Magazine-Fed Shotguns”
Better late than never…
There are cleaner ways to install suicide doors. Dunno if they make a kit for an F350 but there are ways around that.
This is why I pay for all firearm related items including ammo with good old cash.
Always leave as small a trail as possible.
These two conceal carriers are serious heroes. This shits becoming common enough now, where I think I’ve made up my mind and will be switching from a .38 snub nose pocket carry, to something a bit more effective. Unfortunately I live in Florida so I can’t just open carry something I already have 😡.
9mm luger for cheap shooting, 44mag for real shooting
Dear General Mac,
We, the People of this Republic, have long insisted and are constitutional permitted, to be armed and bear those arms without infringements. As a General, who has been part of our many military failures during and since the Vietnam war, can no longer be trusted to defend us effectively. As a result, the wise citizens of this country have chosen to be armed for their own defense and also the long term defense of this country. With that said, we thank you for your service but I must admit, your thoughts and strategies flat out suck.
It’s a dangerous world. Just ask the Petit family. Only a total moron disarms themselves in this world.
From Rep Thomas Massie:
ALERT: Feinstein/Schumer sponsored gun legislation that amends the “Brady bill” will be added to Concealed Carry Reciprocity bill (HR 38) in the House this week.
As Chairman of the Second Amendment Caucus, I’m blowing the whistle on the swamp. Last week, Republicans in the House fast tracked through committee HR 4477, a gun bill titled “fix-NICS.” The Senate version of this bill is cosponsored by Senator Dianne Feintstein and Senator Chuck Schumer and it will send $625 million over 5 years to states to expand the national background check database. The bill will also advance former President Obama’s agenda of pressuring every branch of the administration (such as the Veteran’s Administration) to submit thousands of more names to the NICS background check database to deny gun purchases. The House bill is identical in every way to the Senate bill except the House bill will also commission a study on bump-stocks.
What you don’t know, and what virtually no one in Washington wants you to know, is that House leadership plans to merge the fix-NICS bill with popular Concealed Carry Reciprocity legislation, HR 38, and pass both of them with a single vote. Folks, this is how the swamp works. House leadership expects constituents to call their representatives demanding a vote on the reciprocity bill, when in fact the only vote will be on the two combined bills.
How fast did Fix-NICS, HR 4477, move through the Judiciary Committee? This bill broke the previous records for fast track legislation. It was voted out of committee within hours of being introduced in the House. Check the dates on this link: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4477/text . That means the text of the bill wasn’t even discoverable by the public on congress.gov until after the bill passed out of committee! The text was however available over in the Senate where you will find Senator Diane Feinstein and Senator Chuck Schumer are cosponsors. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2135/cosponsors
If that’s not odd enough, consider this: the fix-NICS bill was introduced in the House by a Democrat two weeks ago. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4434/text . But, in a very unusual move, the bill was re-introduced verbatim by a Republican two weeks later, with language added to it to commission a bump-stock study. Six Republicans in Judiciary Committee weren’t persuaded by the switcheroo, and voted No. However, because every Democrat voted yes and some Republicans voted yes at the urging of the Chairman, the bill made it out of committee. The deed will be complete this week when the bill is quietly added to the Reciprocity bill, HR 38, and passed without the knowledge of those who would oppose the legislation if they knew what was in it.
To recap, what are some clues that you should be concerned with the fix-NICS bill?
(1) The first sentence after the title of the bill reads “Section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (34 U.S.C. 40901) is amended…”
(2) Senators Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer are cosponsors in the Senate.
(3) It’s being rammed through, without a hearing, in a very nontransparent process, and it will be passed by attaching it to the popular concealed carry reciprocity bill which already has enough votes to pass on its own.
(4) It spends over half a billion dollars to collect more names to include in a list of people who will never be allowed to own a firearm.
(5) It compels administrative agencies, not just courts, to adjudicate your second amendment rights.
In my opinion, #5 is the biggest problem. The bill encourages administrative agencies, not the courts, to submit more names to a national database that will determine whether you can or can’t obtain a firearm. When President Obama couldn’t get Congress to pass gun control, he implemented a strategy of compelling, through administrative rules, the Veterans Administration and the Social Security Administration to submit lists of veterans and seniors, many of whom never had a day in court, to be included in the NICS database of people prohibited from owning a firearm. Only a state court, a federal (article III) court, or a military court, should ever be able to suspend your rights for any significant period of time.
Does the NICS background check system have problems? Yes, it results in tens of thousands of unjustified denials of gun purchases every year. But like many bills in Congress, the fix-NICS doesn’t live up to its name – it will likely do the opposite. It throws millions of dollars at a faulty program and it will result in more law-abiding citizens being deprived of their right to keep and bear arms.
If we continue to give the executive branch more money and encouragement to add names to the list of people prohibited from buying a firearm (without a day in court) and if the gun banners achieve their goal of universal background checks, one day, a single person elected to the office of President will be able to achieve universal gun prohibition.
House leadership should immediately de-couple the fix-NICS legislation from the concealed carry reciprocity legislation. People hate it when Washington combines bills like our leadership plans to do this week.
A few have speculated that the House is combining the bills to ensure reciprocity will pass in the Senate. I have some news for them: Senators Feinstein and Schumer aren’t going to vote for reciprocity even if it contains the fix-NICS legislation they support for expanding the background check database. If someone is naïve enough to think that’s going to work, and they’re willing to accept fix-NICS to get reciprocity, then they should ask the Senate to go first with the combined bill.
Here’s a dangerous scenario that’s more likely to play out: The House uses the popularity of reciprocity (HR 38) to sneak fix-NICS through, while the Senate passes fix-NICS only. The Senate and the House meet at conference with their respective bills, with the result being fix-NICS emerges from conference without reciprocity. Fix-NICS comes back to the House and passes because all of the Democrats will vote for it (as they just did in Judiciary Committee) and many Republicans will vote for it. Because Republicans already voted for it once as part of the reciprocity deal that never came to pass, they won’t have a solid footing for opposing fix-NICS as a standalone bill. Then we’ll end up with fix-NICS, which is basically an expansion of the Brady Bill, without reciprocity.
If our House leadership insists on bringing the flawed fix-NICS bill to the floor, they shouldn’t play games. We should vote separately on HR 38, the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill, and HR 4477, the fix-NICS bill. And we should be given enough time to amend the fix-NICS bill, because it needs to be fixed, if not axed.
I want the Magpul one Right NOW! And the reason is because it is choked. I can’t wait!
9 and 357.
Wait, the left says this never happens, there are no good guys with guns. Did they lie? Again? Still?
notice all the MSM coverage…
I sadly look forward to seeing the many deaths of gun owners and law enforcement officers.
Box after box of shells, fired down range, I still can’t hit shit. I’ve got to teach my rifle to put the bullet where I last saw the target before I closed my eyes and yanked the trigger.
The most common situation whenever a crime is committed is, “the police are only minutes away”.
They usually arrive after the crimes have been committed and become historians. They gather information, evidence, interviews and file their reports.
I am not denigrating police officers, that is just the way it happens. In fact, they cannot be everywhere all the time.
This case is a good example; criminal arrives and initiates his crime. There were legally armed citizens who interfered with the criminal intent and ended it early. Made for an easier job for the police.
It does not fit the narrative of the left, “the government will take care of you”, so it isn’t reported.
Not confused at all. Furious, terrified and mostly helpless.
Resist, do not comply.
It’s kinda neat. Rifles are better. Let’s see if they improve their QC before having a love fest with Remington again.
I am interested to see that 9 mm topped the list
I was surprised to see so few votes for .380 ( 9 mm short)
Like a lot of the people here on TTAG I carry a gun every day
My rotation includes a couple of .380’s in addition to my 9
There are a LOT of pocket pistols in the .380 caliber
Since size is the biggest factor when it comes to daily carry many people choose a .380
Plenty of small nines out there now
That was not the case even a few years ago
“Men must demand that gender becomes central to any national conversation that continues to only revolve around mental illness and regulating guns.”
Translation – “Everyone must fit the problem to my choice of narrative!”
Arapahoe County issued my CCW and they didn’t make it easy. They’re very anti gun. Apparently to the point of not bothering to train with them.
Keep in mind that these geniuses, combined with Aurora PD are the guys who argued it was entirely proper, lawful and Constitutional to pull everyone out of their cars at a major intersection on Havana (a major street in Aurora) because they thought there was a bank robber at the intersection. They also thought it was OK to search every person and vehicle without warrants and to detain like 60 people for five plus hours. IIRC, they never even nabbed the robber.
“Unprofessional” is about the nicest word you can use for APD and the ACSD.
Who buys these? I know of exactly one guy with a $2k+ 1911 (a Nighthawk) and about 100 guys with cheaper ones (self included).
Wasn’t there a case 8-10 years ago out of California where they fired over 100 rounds and missed the vehicle even?
Arab guns, when they start making Arab Scotch, maybe. What does that name mean in Arabic, slow goat. lol
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When will the DM be released in Ca.?