https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo98fDcFbtc
Rhode Island’s recent slate of gun control measures – including a bill to ban all semi-automatic firearms – has been condemned to development hell (i.e. they remain in Committee until such time as they don’t). Before the bills stalled, anti-gun control forces rallied at the State House. During one such event, Truth Radio host Dan Bidondi confronted RI State Senator Josh Miller. I’ve included the full clip (not magazine) of the “go f*ck yourself” comment because a little context helps. Truth be told, Bidondi never met a government conspiracy he didn’t like. I mean hate. And he looks more like a bouncer than most bouncers. And to be fair, gun rights guys are joining Josh in the gutter. Still, really?
Jesus H. Christ , where do you find these guys RF? How do I get my 4 minutes back?
Elected “representatives” at work.
Burlington is a non-issue. The laws are just a symbolic nod to it’s progressive population. It’s a city full of progressive liberal college types who spend most of their time dreaming of unicorns and rainbows and how to make them a reality. It’s far removed from the problems of the rest of the country and thus, they make unconstitutional laws to counter a non-problem. Look at it from their perspective. The city council, their college moonbat professor constituants and the multitude of entitled, permanent students living there are scared shitless at being surrounded by a state that is for the most part, pro-gun. I am sure they go to bed at night dreaming of VT and Colombine style massacres perpetrated by the “country” folk ending their pot-smoking, theory generating lifestyle. So this is their counter measure, and it helps them sleep better. I’ve been to Burlington and it’s mostly filled with new-age hippies, women with hairy legs and cold weather.
Note to Mina: You would not understand. So you go right ahead with your self-righteous crusade, make all the noise you want.
The wise know that persuading those who can be persuaded is the key.
Paul,
By all means We The People should try to persuade policymakers. The problem is that inalienable rights, facts, and reason are insufficient incentives to persuade many policymakers.
That being the case, Mina’s point is monumentally important since inalienable rights are at stake. What recourse do We The People have when we fail to persuade an aggressor to leave us alone?
I fully realize that violent resistance is messy, ugly, horrific, and to be avoided if even remotely possible. I also realize that compliance with aggressors is messy, ugly, horrific, and to be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately, the aggressors have put us between a rock and hard place.
And don’t fall into the trap of thinking that our decades of complying with gun control policy — in an effort to avoid violence with policymakers and their enforcers — has not had severe violent costs. How many unarmed robbery, assault, kidnapping, rape, and murder victims are a direct result of gun control … victims that, without gun control, would have chosen to be armed and prevailed over their attackers? My intuition tells me that number is in the thousands, if not tens of thousands. How is that more desirable than claiming our inalienable right from the policy makers that are actively infringing them?
“I fully realize that violent resistance is messy, ugly, horrific, and to be avoided if even remotely possible. I also realize that compliance with aggressors is messy, ugly, horrific, and to be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately, the aggressors have put us between a rock and hard place.”
There is a theme that is often missed in these discussions and that is the basic purpose, IMO, of the Second Amendment. The 2A is not there so much to give us the ability to take up arms against tyranny as it is to ensure tyrants KNOW that such a response is possible. That knowledge tempers their attempts at tyranny. We hope.
Just as the presence of a weapon, or the presentation of a weapon with the implied willingness to self defense can and often does prevent crime without having to fire a shot, the Second Amendment guarantees the presence of weapons and the right to present such weapons against criminals who would steal our Constitution and our rights. So long as that right remains untrammeled the threat of our arms is hopefully sufficient to keep these fascists in check without having to resort to actually shooting them. THAT is why they hate the Second Amendment and our natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms so much and try in every devious way possible to erode that right.
For this to break out into an actual shooting war would be a world-wide catastrophe as far as destabilizing the current global political balance. Crimea is just a red-herring distraction, a manufactured crisis that the Progressives will use to their advantage while ignoring the wishes of the people actually living in Crimea. The easiest road to tyranny is to disguise it as a necessary step in the response to a crisis. History has shown this time and again and the most frequent use of this tactic comes from socialists (National Socialists/NAZIs), communists (Lenin/Stalin/Castro) and fascists (Mussolini/Franco).
All of the above were darlings of the Progressive movement of the early 20th century at some point in their carriers, usually right up to the point where they started murdering their populations.
A blast of Sabre Red would have ended this. These cops are a bunch of pussies.
1.)What could possibly be more fun than shnoitog all day more or less for free?And bonus, added to your 10/22, a coupla MKII’s, a big box o’ mags for them all, and a coupla crates of ammo, and you’re set for armageddon, zombocalypse, class war, etc. (yeah, thanks to you I’ve visited SurvivalBlog a coupla times; shudder)AT
“What kind of training provides the best preparation?”
Pinkslip paintball.
You show up with a paintball gun (Simunitions would be better) and the pinkslip for your car. During the “training” if you receive what would be a lethal hit you lose your car and have to give it to who shot you.
I bet the walk home would focus the mind.
I look at the Senator and can only think, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpnUHGpFDk
I RECENTLY PURCHASED A SLIGHTLY USED SAIGA 12 IN STOCK IMPORTED CONFIGURATION. I SAY SLIGHTLY USED SINCE I TORE THE GUN DOWN COMPLETELY FOR INSPECTION AND POSSIBLE CLEANING IF NEEDED. THE WEAR PATTERNS TOLD ME THAT THIS GUN HAD VERY FEW ROUNDS FIRED THRU IT. I THEN TRIED IT OUT WITH SOME OF MY 1 1/8 OZ. TRAP LOADS @ 1200 F.P.S.. THE GUN CYCLED PERFECTLY. I THEN SWITCHED TO 1 OZ. LOADS @ 1050 F.P.S. AND HAD ONE FAILURE TO CYCLE IN 20 ROUNDS. SO FAR I HAVE SHOT 300 PLUS ROUNDS, MOSTLY TRAP LOW BRASS THROUGH THE GUN W/O ANY TROUBLES. I GUESS I’M JUST LUCKY TO HAVE BOUGHT ONE OF THE GOOD ONES FROM IZHMASH. THE TRIGGER, WHILE NOT SILKY SMOOTH, SEEMS FINE TO ME ON A SHOTGUN, SINCE SCATTER GUN SHOOTING IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAT PRECISION RIFLE SHOOTING. MY TRIGGER IS ALSO ROUNDED ON THE EDGES AND COMFORTABLE ON THE FINGER. AS OTHERS HAVE STATED, THIS IS A MILITARY, COMBAT STYLE WEAPON, NOT A FINELY CRAFTED SPORTING FIREARM. AS SUCH, YOU WILL NOT FIND THE SAME LEVEL OF CRAFTSMANSHIP AS YOU WOOULD IN A TRAP GUN. I PLAN ON USING IT FOR OUR LOCAL 3 GUN MATCHES THIS SUMMER, AND WITH A FEW MODS., I SUSPECT THIS GUN WILL WORK JUST FINE FOR IT’S INTENDED PURPOSE. AS WITH ALL COMPETITION GUNS, A LITTLE TWEEKING IS ALWAYS NEEDED.
That was bad but not as disgraceful as when Dick Cheney told Patrick Leahy to ‘Go F yourself’.
No, Leahy earned that one.
Really? We are so uncivil that it is okay to tell someone who criticizes you to ‘go f yourself’ on the Senate Floor? Both Senator Miller and Vice President Cheney displayed poor character and their respective political positions aside.
“So a muzzle device at 18 inches has much more force on a lightweight gun than the same device at 16 inches, especially when using a compensator this efficient.”
Schrodinger the physics cat says force != torque.
I’m sorry, but that is gibberish. “Odds” dont equal ahtyning. The probabilities to which they convert have to equal one (or 100%), if all potential winners are included. In the case of the Big Line, it is possible that not all candidates are included, so the sum of the probabilites could be less than one (or 100%). But it is mathematically impossible for the sum of the probabillites to be greater than one (or 100%).
Tina’s Range Gear, Santa Fe, NM.
Nice people, friendly and funny behind-the-counter canines. Selection could be better, but what they stock is generally good quality stuff and the prices are generally reasonable. A couple-three indoor range bays complete the package. Staff generally are knowledgeable, they don’t seem to mind newbie questions or an extended discussion of the fine points of a particular gun.
The other LGS … well, if you’re a man they’ll talk to you. When my wife and I went in so she could buy a spare couple of magazines for her 1911, I had to physically walk away from the counter before the guy would talk to her and not me. Good selection, prices okay. But the “gun shop attitude” is definitely going on there.
Adventure Outdoors, Smyrna, GA. All around great store, excellent stock, good service. My family and I have bought most of the guns we have from there; a 1911, Zastava PAP, Saiga 12 and countless ammunition.
Ram-Z’s Exchange. It’s a pawn shop in Lafayette, IN. They’re very good with negotiating on price at the gun counter, and will often give discounts because they feel like it. I always feel welcome there, and my girlfriend actually felt comfortable enough to go in without me and order my birthday present (1943 Mosin-Nagant 91/30). They are pleasant, courteous, and fair. And if you’re selling a gun, they won’t try to low-ball you too bad. A little bit, because they’re a pawn shop, but not in the extreme. And you get more if you’re looking for store credit.
They also usually have some neat and interesting pieces for good prices.
Ambrose Armory in Escondido CA
There are actually several LGS that I use, depending on my needs, but this has become my default shop. They are just great people to deal with, and there is a real gunsmith (not just an armorer) that charges reasonable rates and doesn’t take months to get a job done. It’s still a small shop, but growing, so they don’t yet have a lot of in-store stock, but will order anything that is available fro the distributor. Prices are not the absolute lowest, but are fair.
I’m not beholden to any one store, I visit several pretty regularly, but none religiously.
It’s always the same nonsense everywhere I go…
“.45 is a one shot death day and 9mm couldn’t even muster a welt.”
“Revolvers are the best guns for women and new shooter because lord knows adults incapable of understand the advanced concept of “tap, rack, bang.”
“You don’t have aim a shotgun, just point and shoot.”
And, my favorite…
“The *insert gun type* is awesome, but the *insert gun type* sucks.”
I get all that I can handle around here.
Makes me nostalgic for the Showtime series “Brotherhood.” They used that phrase a lot. Maybe the senator wants life to imitate art.
The problem is, CliffH, that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to ASUSA and the training they provide to civilians. If you want to find out, let me know. Until then you are just posting nonsense.
B2 Enterprises, Cotati, California. Good inventory. Great customer service. Knowledgeable and helpful. Can’t say enough good things about these guys.
There is a lot of civilian workers on Military bases these days. The base CO stated the suspect had a Transportation Worker Identification Credential, or TWIC pass. The TWIC pass used to give you access to the pier. Not sure if it still does. I retired 3 years a go. The USNS Comfort is berthed at the same pier. It is mostly civilian run. The pier entry control point (ECP) is manned by a watch stander armed with a Beretta 9MM. The ship Quarterdeck Petty Officer of the Watch is similarly armed. Many questions still remain about timelines, watch stander actions and event details.
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/03/sailor-civilian-die-shooting-norfolk-naval-station
Rockin’ it out in the khaki’s, RF! Very ‘non-operator-y’ / ‘non-tacticool’ of you there
(which I suppose is by nature then, cool).
Hey Revive, I did the 7.62×39 AR thing myself and I’m pleased as peach. I purchased a complete lower from Surplus Arms and a complete barreled upper from barrier defense. This will get you a complete AR for less than $700.00 total with a free floating hand guard and 16″ heavy barrel. I bought a 30 round C-products mag and so far it has all ran flawlessly. I hope this helps you out and saves you from having to mod mags and such. Good luck. Oh, yeah I got a bunch of wolf ammo I haven’t tested yet, but this thing really loves the steel cased hornady SST. 1.5″ three shot groups and I’m no sniper.
Two shops in Northern Illinois come to mind:
On Target in Crystal Lake, IL – both pistol & rifle indoor ranges – knowledgeable and friendly staff
GAT Guns in East Dundee, IL – one of the largest gun shops in the upper midwest with a total of 75 indoor pistol and rifle ranges (up to 75 yards).
Tanner’s Sport Center
2301 York Road Rt.263
Jamison, Pennsylvania 18929
Knowledgeable, well-stocked, friendly and post ammo and gun availability each week on Facebook.
LOVE THEM.
I have a Sig 516 and a Sig 716. The only thing I didn’t like about the two rifles was the trigger. I dropped a Giessle SSA in both and that made a world of difference. It also makes for great consistency in feel when switching between them. I run both with suppressors. I found the 516 to be a bit finicky on ammo when talking accuracy. hopefully I will try them on some hogs once turkey season closes.
Wild Sports in Orangevale, CA. East of Sacramento. Best prices I’ve seen, the people are pretty good with service as well.
In short, best store I’ve found.
Yes it does. Double SBR
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Thank the Lord the good people of New York have been protected from these weapons of war. Only military and po-po should have these deadly child killers. How can any responsible business owner sell such horrible instruments of death and carnage? They should be forced to weld closed those tubular magazines that hold more than 7 bullets.
Kudos to TTAG that a 2-4 MOA rifle is in fact a 2-4 MOA rifle. Can’t ever remember reading about a rifle in Guns & Ammo that shot a 4 MOA group.
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I used to draw little rifles into my scantrons on tests. The boxes were rectangles and my guns looked like the Battle Rifle from Halo. Just throwing that out there.
Whew! Thank goodness Florida residents don’t have to pay the $200 tx or get a trust set up for the SBP (short barelled pastry). That could add up quickly. I wonder of they run into the same issue with slim jims, jerkey, and other treats.
Zero tollerance forntheir nitwittey! There should be a law!
Ok, but the state of Idaho is still illegal in schools, right?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE4f3d3CIAIUkHU.jpg
Great! For the children
I’m with Mina. The way this sounds, guns are some new fangled technology that few know anything about. It’s very odd, all of it. Not that I’m knocking it, mind you. I hope this spreads like chlamydia. Or something less oogy.
I think any state that permits assisted suicide, or provides inadequate mental health services, should not be allowed to use suicide in tabulating gun deaths.
My gun dealer is Davy Keith , Ellisville , Ms. Great guy recommend him highly , he is the Owner of Rebel Rifle Ordnance . Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .
Apply cool water to burn.
I could write a story about a former California State Senator in a way that would make a great case that anti-gun former politicians shouldn’t own guns.
Mossberg 500A with an 18″ barrel and original wood stock. Loaded with Remington Express 000 buck. I need to get a light for it. I wouldn’t pull the trigger if I’m not sure what I’m aiming at. My .357 Ruger Blackhawk is kept close at hand too.
I can’t believe that someone would believe that a good citizen wishing to protect themselves and families is being held in such contempt that they equate then the same as rapists and murderers – if not less.
I met Conroy. She is a fool.
I also can’t stress enough that requiring someone to un holster their weapon and abandon it is far more dangerous than allowing them to enter any of the restricted areas.
I’ve got my Arsenal WASR-10/63 here
it’s a one of a kind, custom, rare.
Mayor Michael should know that the police deal with powerful illegal weapons that criminals use every single day. The law abiding citizens powerful guns are nothing to worry about because they follow the law. But of course people like Mayor Mike believe more in the state than into people.