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It seems some banks no longer want to do business with some companies that make and/or sell guns.

Berkshire Bank, for example, quit lending money to Sig Sauer a few years ago, choosing not to help the company make more of the MCX rifle that was used to murder 49 people in a gay nightclub in Orlando in 2016.

JP Morgan and Bank of America also have pronounced themselves uninterested in financing the manufacture of military-style rifles for civilians.

So now the poor victimized gun industry is appealing for help. And getting it.

House Bill 2473 would bar the state, cities and all other government entities from entering into contracts of $100,000 or more with any company that discriminates against the firearms industry.

To hear our leaders tell it, gun manufacturers and dealers are suffering the same sort of discrimination long experienced by African Americans. 

“Somehow our society has to come to grips with, we lived for years and years and years with guns and ammunition,” Sen. Vince Leach, R-Saddlebrooke, said this week, during a hearing on the bill. “We lived through, as terrible as it was, … segregation and the racism that followed it and now we’re seeing different forms of racism coming forward. This is not good for our country.”

So a bank refusing to lend money to a gun manufacturer so it can make more of the weapon of choice of America’s mass shooters is the same as a bus driver telling Rosa Parks to move to the back of the bus? 

Got it.

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  1. Your second amendment rights will mean precisely Jack and Sh*t if our enemies are allowed to cancel the gun industry like they.did to the Canadian truckers or like they’re trying to do to the entire Russian nation.

        • 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒘𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒏 𝒎𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒊𝒏𝒗𝒆𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒎𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒚? 𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒕’𝒔 𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝑰 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒋𝒐𝒃 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑵𝒐𝒘 𝑰 𝒂𝒎 𝒎𝒂𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 $200 𝒕𝒐 $300 𝒑𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒒𝒘𝒆03 𝒅𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒌 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆.
          𝑨𝒑𝒑𝒍𝒚 𝑵𝒐𝒘 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆__________𝒏𝒆𝒕𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒉𝟭.𝒄𝒐𝒎

      • Less so NATO and more the US by forcing allies to cease most economic interaction with Russia and cutting Russia out of the defacto would banking system. Unfortunately this will likely lead to Russia/China/India/Iran creating their own banking system which could have detrimental effects on the efficiency of the global trade we rely on. Now I noticed you didn’t question the truckers getting crushed.

        • “Now I noticed you didn’t question the truckers getting crushed.”

          That’s because I don’t believe the truckers and the U.S. gun industry are enemies or compare to a communist country invading another country and committing war crimes.

          Do you?

        • Obviously not I also don’t believe Russia is our enemy either. Excuse sure but not a relevant strategic rival.

        • Curses foiled again by autocorrect and ackshually boy. Now any time you want to have a point in your argument regarding Florian’s astute recognition of state level deplatforming and the critical threat to everyone’s liberty it can easily pose please attempt to present it.

      • You’re missing the point. I’m not making a moral argument one way or another regarding the Russia/Ukraine situation.
        My point is that our enemies have shown that they are willing to wage cultural and economic warfare and, if they turn that on the gun industry like they did to the truckers and are doing to Russia (whether or not you agree Russia deserves it) then your “Don’t tread on me” flag and 2nd amendment tattoo are meaningless.
        They don’t have to repeal the second amendment or ban anything at all if they destroy the industry that keeps our magazines loaded and guns readily available.

    • 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒘𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒏 𝒎𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒊𝒏𝒗𝒆𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒎𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒚? 𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒕’𝒔 𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝑰 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒋𝒐𝒃 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑵𝒐𝒘 𝑰 𝒂𝒎 𝒎𝒂𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 $200 𝒕𝒐 $300 𝒑𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒒𝒘𝒆03 𝒅𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒌 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆.
      𝑨𝒑𝒑𝒍𝒚 𝑵𝒐𝒘 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆__________ 𝑾𝑾𝑾.𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒌𝒃𝒛.𝑪𝑶𝑴

    • RE: “To hear our leaders tell it, gun manufacturers and dealers are suffering the same sort of discrimination long experienced by African Americans.”

      Perhaps if defining Gun Control by its history of racism and genocide would have always been at the forefront Gun Makers and Gun Owners would not be another N-Word for today’s Jim Crow Gun Control democRat Party et al.

      Obviously what certain banks and others onboard the Gun Control Train would really like to do is lynch everyone who has anything to do with the word, “Gun.” Gun Control zealots are so hate filled they must let off steam by concocting sneaky backdoor ways to “get” Gun Makers, Gun Owners, etc.

      Ambulance chasing Gun Control zealots are always laying in wait ready to use the criminal misuse of firearms to fuel their agenda. And where were Gun Control zealots when a criminal maimed and killed parade goers in Wisconsin using a Motor Vehicle? Did Control zealots trip over each other to get lending institutions to deny loans to auto makers? No f-n way Jose.

      • Sad to say…When it comes to contributing pertinent replies to articles concerning the out and out discrimination towards The Second Amendment some so called gun-owners couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn.

        • And you, nameless, brainless, d***less troll, to deliver pointless, witless, drive-by “insults” to distract people who are actually trying to discuss THE ACTUAL FRICKIN’ TOPIC! If you have nothing relevant to say (and you don’t), then S. T. F. U. and go the frick away. No one wants you here, you contribute nothing, and you’re dumber than Balaam’s off ass.

    • The Russian nation, specifically Putin and his henchmen, are just like those in the US who would take away our arms so that they can bully women, gays, transgenders and minorities with impunity. It took World Wars One and Two to straighten out Germany so that they would behave like a civilized nation. I hope it won’t take World War Three to straighten out Russia (and China).

  2. And this “writer” was once a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize…

    Sheesh, what a hack.

    • Someone help me out. I’m not seeing the name of the author of the excerpted article, other than a surname “Roberts” in the title. Who is it?

    • The “Pulitzer” like the “Nobel” is not what it used to be.

      The same importance you give to non-technical “Oscars” should be shown to J prizes.

  3. Banks should be required by Federal law to provide services to any legal enterprise and the individuals doing business with them. Banks should be treated like a public utility.

    • Have they paid back their too big to fail bailout? Even if not they were shown some extreme favoritism not shown to non political (UAW) related business.

  4. The “same” criminals in business suits screeching and lamenting the murder of innocents by the evil gun makers…….you know, the same ones who walk away or talk over you when you try to ask how they feel about REAL deterrents for the miscreants who use em!! Next time one of em tries to convince you guns are the problem, ask em where they stand on capital punishment!

  5. The law should be that are bared from doing business IN the state. See how they like it when they are banned from operating in half the country. Shareholders will revolt, coe’s will be forced to resign. F them all.

      • The incident was at 10th and K, downtown Sac, at 2:49am. That corner has a nightclub, so there was likely a crowd associated with it.

        But interestingly enough, that corner also houses the office for Democratic Assemblywoman Cathleen Galgiani, who served many years in Sac. Koinkidink? Let’s see if her face and voice come out screaming for more gun control…

      • “Why in the world would any rational person be in downtown Sacramento?”

        There. FIFY. Spent many years in “dear” Sackatomatoes before college. It was a s***hole then, and it’s only gotten worse. It’s only NOT the worst city in California because California also contains Fresno, Barstow, Wilmington, and Harbor City.

  7. and yet…. banks continue to give billions of $$$ annually to; the tobacco industry whose products kill ~400,000 annually and car companies who’s cars use results in over 2,000,000 injured (not killed initially in the car accident) and kill ~38,000 – (over) ~40,000 annually (~1.2 million of that 2 million will later die as a result of complications due to those car accident injuries) and the drug companies who’s products are used in over 100,000 drug overdose suicides annually, and the list goes on and on…

    Seems to me “Rape Victims, Transgender Kids” are being put on the back burner in the name of ‘virtue signaling’ while behind the scenes the banks are very happy financing all those other things.

    • Correction…. “over 100,000 drug overdose suicides annually should have been

      over 200,000 drug use or overdose suicides/accident/injury/deaths annually

    • Don’t mess with trans kids! …Unless you’re into that sort of thing. I won’t judge. I’m not a bigot!

  8. A month or so ago, I conducted an experiment: multiple attemps to purchase 9mm ammo online.
    Each attempt with my Chase Visa was denied. Each attempt with my Citi card and my Barclays card was accepted. My credit score is 817 and all my cards paid-to-date, so, credit-worthyness was not the issue with Chase. They are, simply, bigots.

    Once I use all the airline and hotel points, which I will do this year, I will close those Chase cards. In the meantime, no new transactions on them.

    I am not opposed to bigotry. In fact, I am a bigot for the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. I am a bigot for the nuclear family, for natural health and health freedom; for smaller government and for fiscal sanity; for science-based management of the environment; for strong borders, for made-in-the-USA (especially for goods critical to national security); and I am a bigot against racism and ethnic, and religious prejudice.

    So, good-bye, JP Morgan Chase. As soon as I have extracted all the dollar value you owe me, I will not cross your thresholds again.

    • My FICO used to be well above 800. Ironically, after I paid off my vehicles and mortgage, and had only a couple of credit cards, my score fell heavily by about 100 points. Not that it matters so much, I suppose, since I don’t foresee ever applying for a loan again in my lifetime, and I pay cash outright for everything.

      • Hang around TTAG long enough, and you’ll notice a pattern of humble bragging with Haz. He just can’t wait to tell you how awesome his life is, and not so subtlety implies he’s better than everyone else. Here’s the kicker: he expects everyone to believe he’s a Christian.

        • Some people missed the memo that by 2030 we’re going to own nothing, and be happy. Digital currency, health passports, social credit here we come.

        • He’s…..

          Usually, I do not read the flaming-hate-taunts on TTAG, whether from a troll or troll- respondants. Those posts seem tedious. They do not improve my moments, and do not teach me anything. So, why invest the time?

          People like Haz, Ralph, JWM, JWT, Crimson, 40 cal, possum, SafeUpstate, Strych9, Gadsden, Geoff……, FWW, Manse, Dude, Shireman…many others, share knowledge and humor; their conversation is comraderi. Worth the investment!

          You do you. This is, after all, the USA.

        • avatar Geoff "A day without an obsessed, obviously brain-damaged and mentally-ill demented troll (who deserves to live in New Jersey) PR

          “What the fuck is your major malfunction?”

          That troll is full of anger and hatred to some of us here because he was told by TTAG management that his vaccine conspiracies are no longer wanted in here.

          It got so bad, he was spamming every comment he could with that crap.

          Right, peegee2, the little boy with no testicles? 🤡 💩 🤣

      • Same here. Once you get out of debt and start paying your cards off every month your credit score drops. Weird. But I guess they do that to encourage debt.

        • avatar Geoff "A day without an obsessed, obviously brain-damaged and mentally-ill demented troll (who deserves to live in New Jersey) PR

          The credit card companies call those who do that “Deadbeats”, since they generate the card companies no revenue…

        • Proverbs 22:7 KJ Version

          “The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.”

      • The FICO score, what a mess that is.

        Your score fell by about 100 points because not having a vehicle loan and/or mortgage (called ‘major expenses’ categorically) changes the math to use a different algorithm so the rating drops because of a decrease in the number of ‘major expenses’. The algorithm is different for each category and type and limit of ‘credit’ you have. The result of those all put together forms your FICO score.

        Credit cards are a little different, no matter if its one or a dozen credit cards they count for (supposedly) ~35% of your FICO score (normally). That’s right, you will never really increase your FICO score beyond 35% by paying your credit card bill on time, but if you don’t pay them on time or don’t pay them at all the reporting of the non or late payments reports are again sent through a different secret algorithm process that can drive your FICO score into the toilet.

        But here’s the thing about the FICO score (also called ‘credit rating’) – in reality its actually arbitrarily determined by the major credit agencies being able to at any time, without informing anyone, and keeping the algorithm methodology secret, determine what the percentage of each item on your credit record is worth. And they place limits for the max it can be if you are a good payee but no limits on the minimum it can be if you are not a good payee. So for example, if you pay a car loan every month on time each time the max that can count towards a positive credit score is, lets say 15% of your FICO score, but if you miss a payment or multiple payments or are late even one time (if reported) that portion of your credit score becomes subjected to a secret algorithm methodology that removes the ability to have a max limit for the life of that loan and your specific % score for that specific item will never increase again for the life of the loan and stays on your record for up to several years after you have paid it off and continues to count against you at some arbitrarily determined rate by the secret algorithm methodology.

        Your FICO score above zero is only if you owe money, the less you owe the lower the score, the more detriment items on your credit report the lower the score, the lower the score the less credit worthy you are, the less credit worthy you are the higher your interest rate will be (generally, depending on what the score still is) on any new credit – and if you don’t owe anything, well…. If you suddenly paid everything off, and did not have anything else that was report-able to the credit reporting agencies, after about 6 – 7 years those are suppose to age off your credit report but a lot of times they do not so you need to have the removed by contacting the three credit reporting agencies. But here’s the problem, because you don’t owe anything means there is nothing being reported and if nothing is reported there is no continuing track record showing ‘credit worthiness’ thus even though your FICO score may still be good almost all those who would loan to you (a future car loan, credit cards, a new mortgage, etc…) can still determine you to be a credit risk even though you aren’t and paid on time.

        In other words, chasing your FICO score to improve it is chasing an arbitrary number determined by others in secret which only works if you owe money and pay it back on time but not pay it off until the end of life for the loan by paying it in the agreed payments. If you pay it all off at once in a lump sum payment before the end of the loan life, it can actually count against your FICO score as you have discovered.

      • @muckraker
        Thanks much! that phrase brought a smile and some good memories of my time in uniform.

    • Keep the card, that way they still have to process you in there system.
      Make them spend on you.

        • The very best way to screw a credit card company is to pay off your balance at the last possible day.

          Run up a heavy balance, carry it the longest you can, then pay it off. You will be using their money for about a month, and owe them nothing.

          Reportedly, they call customers like that ‘deadbeats’… 🙂

        • Check the terms of your card; they may very well have some type of “insufficient activity” charge that they hit you with if you don’t do a certain volume each year (many cards have such, and they are called by many different names). If you keep the card, and don’t use it, they charge you for NOT using it. Banks are creative thieves.

    • I love you, man, and was ready to steal that whole 2nd to last paragraph for posting elsewhere, but I call you out on this one;

      “or science-based management of the environment”

      Who’s science?

      I would say I am for private property owners to manage their own environment.

      • Crimson,

        Good call on the ‘science’!! I should have said ‘actual, non-politicized, commercial-free science’.

        Regarding “…private property owners to manage their own environment”, we could have an interesting conversation about that. I agree with you in principle, but, I keep thinking of exceptions. For example, my neighbor, in the bucolic west-end of Allentown, deciding to raise pigs on his 1/3rd acre lot. Did not really happen, but without zoning, it could. So, an interesting conversation….

        Always, always read your posts…deep respect!

      • Yeah, if the lonely old widow surviving on social security who’s been peacefully living in the same little house for 80 years has a problem with the 24/7 noise and pollution coming from the new mega-corp-big-business-industrial center next door, she should just hire her own lawyers to go up against theirs because freedom or liberty, or something.

  9. After the past couple of weeks we can also say “Democrat lawmakers think vulnerable pedophiles need protection” and “majority of lawmakers think white supremacist neo-nazis need funding for arms and training.”

    The honking will continue until morale collapses.

  11. A moose-lamb terrorist killed 49 at a happy nightclub. Disney World was too hard of a target. I guess it’s too ez to chant “ghey violence”. I betcha a bunch of those fellas wish they’d charged the jihadi before being slaughtered…

  12. JP Morgan and Bank of America are both free to choose who they do business with. But so am I.

    I choose not to willingly do business with these places. Just like I choose not to spend money on pro-sports or use Facebook/Twitter. The hate for America is strong with these people.

  13. Any Legal Business who is being discriminated against for what they build or sell has the Right of Redress of Grievance. Banks can refrain from doing business with companies that are a bad risk, but when they pick winners and losers for political reasons they are criminals!

  16. Wow, Dan, you sure do have your own take on it. Discrimination, regardless the reason, is still discrimination. Rosa stood up to a law that discriminated against her based on her skin color. But the “woke” banks use it to deny financing to legal entities, not guilty of do anything illegal. Today they cite this particular inanimate object, tomorrow, what will it be?

  18. Transgender kids do deserve protection.
    By throwing their parents, usually the mother, in a mental asylum. Yes, there i said it. It’s called Munchausen by proxy, a mental illness where the mother invents a medical condition so she can pretend to be the childs savior.
    And the child should also get proper treatment, by a psychiatrist that actually has read the DSM-5 and knows how to diagnose and treat the mental illness of gender dysphoria. Hint: 98% of children grow out of it. 0% of children on puberty blockers and genital mutilation do. And if you have this disease, the 43% suicide attempt rate is free on top. Not something i wish on any child.

    • We noticed a stronger link to bipolar personality disorder in the mother for kids coming out as trans but that may be a NY thing and thankfully not my area of analysis.

  19. It’s kinda funny how antis choose their “friends”.

    Put aside the specifics of the guy’s claims and preferences, why would anyone expect JP Morgan Chase to be ethical?

    In 2021, JPM paid $200,000,000 in fines for investor protection violations, $9,285,714 in toxic securities abuse and $50,000 for discrimination.

    In 2020, they paid fines of $955,200,000 for investor protection violations, $920,000,000 for fraud, $250,000,000 for banking violations and $9,000,000 for employment discrimination.

    And I’m just cherry picking the ones that stand out…

    So this guy wants a company that’s clearly the paradigm of business ethics to “protect people from guns”? LOL!

    Clearly this guy doesn’t care about morals or ethics, he just cares about guns. Otherwise he might be asking why JPM settled with the DOJ for $920,000,000 just in one fraud case. Protect the little guy? Well, not if he’s an investor or got defrauded, in that case JPM is fine and dandy, right?

    Fiduciary responsibility. It’s not just for winning at Scrabble.

    • This is what happens when you replace morality with tribalism. The sheep wasted no time aligning with the well-known literally criminal company Pfizer because they were told to. The “for the little guy” Democrats love their powerful multi-national corporations.

      • Your comment reminds me of conversation Michael Malice has had repeatedly for years.

        “What are you going to do about the guy who sells a product on the street and doesn’t really know what it does? What if someone’s harmed by those dangerous drugs????”

        “You just described Pfizer (or Purdue) but I don’t hear calls for them to be sent to prison…”

        It’s a fair point. But then I’m one of those nutbar libertarians who believes that these companies might be incentivized to be better if they weren’t protected and coddled by .gov.

        • “…But then I’m one of those nutbar libertarians..”

          Don’t feel lonely, you are not alone.

        • You can’t send them to prison. They have money! Instead of going to prison, Pfizer just pays out billions to settle criminal charges. They work those payouts into their overhead expenses. It’s the price of doing business. They’re too big to fail.

          Remind me, how many people did Eric Holder send to prison after the largest financial crisis in eighty years? Isn’t it funny how the occupy protesters didn’t end up at the White House unlike the BLM protesters?

  20. Soon “banks” won’t process transactions for ANY firearm or tactical related equipment, ammo, or anything remotely related. This is just another leftist slippery slope that must be cut off at the knees. The anti-gunners NEVER stop, and we need to stop them.

    • If you’re not on your toes there won’t be banks to process payments.

      You’ll have a fed digi currency account that they control in real time. They’ll decide what you may and may not buy, where and whom you may buy from etc. Screw around and your “dollars” will work in exactly one Wal-Mart and nowhere else in the world, the one closest to your house where you may shop for what they deem you may have.

      This is, in their own words, what they want and why the don’t like cash. Because they cannot control end-user uses in real time. They also find this to be an annoyance created by private banking and credit institutions. Hence why they bludgeon them to “get on the right side of history”.

      It’s also exactly why they hate cryptos. Because, really, they can’t control them except on the margins. They can order exchanges to do certain things but there are numerous ways around this, a Fed governor has even stated this explicitly, that there’s no way to get rid of cryptos without destroying the entire internet. .gov has to learn to live with private cryptos being a thing. This elicited shrieks from .gov members, elected and unelected.

      One might stop to wonder why they’re so scared of crypto and constantly label it as something only useful for drug and human trafficking operations when both claims are demonstrably untrue.

      They’re afraid of it and they don’t want you to have these things. Just like 3D printers, ghost guns and semi-auto rifles. Now, I don’t know about the rest of you, but when .gov tells me that I don’t need something I generally assume I might and when they then demonize that thing I don’t want one, I want multiples of that thing. Why? Because I know damn well that .gov fears one thing above all else: people it cannot control. That is, free people.

      So when it comes to thinks that scare the piss out of the government that they might not have control, I like those things. I’m not going to pour every cent I have into any of them but I’m definitely going to create a basket of them.

      And in the end, maybe I lose… but at least I made Liz Warren lose her shit live on TV.

      • They don’t hate crypto. You’ve been fooled. It was the stepping stone for the coming digital currency. This is not conspiracy theory. They are telling us what they want our future to look like. They have been for decades, but in the past it was more cleverly disguised. Now it’s in the open.

        • “They are telling us what they want our future to look like.”

          I know what future I want you to see, the one where your wife leaves you penniless, your children hate you (even more than they do now), and you get cancer and die alone.

          I can dream, can’t I? 🙂 🙂

        • Wow. Really sorry about that, I generally don’t blow my fuse like this over silly troll posts. I forgot my Sertraline this morning and it’s been a tough weekend. Getting ghosted on Tinder is getting old. Sorry again.

        • Your inability to control your temper, along with the fact you’re heavily reliant upon SSRIs (by your own admission), means you really shouldn’t have access to guns. Please consider divesting yourself of your collection before the state intervenes.

        • avatar Geoff "A day without an obsessed, obviously brain-damaged and mentally-ill demented troll (who deserves to live in New Jersey) PR

          “Wow. Really sorry about that, I generally don’t blow my fuse like this over silly troll posts.”

          That’s the fake Geoff PR, in all it’s angry and bitter ‘glory’

          Get cancer, and suffer in pain for the longest possible time… 🙂

        • Your comment on the government wanting you to get into crypto proves you know exactly nothing about this topic.

          Secondly, if you’re going to pose as someone else (Geoff, in this case) you actually need to have some skill at imitating them so that your “witty” comebacks don’t seem like LD kids playing T-ball. Easy game but you still can’t win because you’re a ‘tard.

          Oh, also, go step on a Lego.

        • That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You clearly have about as much idea how crypto works as Liz Warren does.

          Also, if you’re going to try to play both sides of a conversation to troll someone else by imitation (Geoff, in this case) you should actually try to develop the skill of posting like they do so that your “witty” replies actually kinda-sorta work.

          Otherwise this is like watching LD kids fail at T-ball.

  21. I has a question. Is this same troubled lady calling for no money being loaned for car purchases or the manufacture of automobiles? More people die every day from drunk driving and the misuse of automobiles than they do from the misuse of firearms. Has she called for restricting lending to breweries? Or cannabis outlets? If not I would like to know why she would complain about firearms when they injure far less people each year. I believe that to be a fair question.

  22. The same people that want to ‘protect transgender kids’ are largely the pederast that are grooming confused children into being transgender to begin with.

    It really sickens me that it’s being consider a thing. I’ve known many transgender people and are even pretty close to some of them. I have sympathy for people that are transgender and I’m not a super based right-winger that just really has a problem with the existence of transgender people. The problem here is these nut-job leftist ideologue are trying to label any young person that might not be 100% straight as transgender. This is a stupid and DANGEROUS thing to do. Messing around giving developing kid’s body with hormone therapy has very serious consequences that can NOT just be fixed with more hormone therapy.

  23. My sister was a tom boy, she liked gunms and riding horses, went fishing, hunting, played football with the guys. She got older, found a Man that she loved, got married and is now a great grandmother.
    If she’d have been young now the skools would have pumped her full of transgender nonsense and who knows what would have happened.
    I dont know how banks work, but seems to me they can say who and why gets what loans or bank bullsht. Then again its Fed money so there might be something to that?
    Still I dont see how the Feds can say what loans the bank could deny.
    Quit using credit cards, online sales of emu and gunms is going to bite us in the ass one of these days.

      • And if you believe that complete shite, I have a lovely bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you, CHEAP. Who appoints the Fed Chairman?? To call the Fed “private” is one of the biggest lies our government has foisted on us. It ranks up there with “the check is in the mail” and “I won’t come in your mouth”.

  24. Trying to compare racial discrimination by banks to refusing to lend the gun industry money is of course ludicrous. Banks are privately owned and of course will sue and win if such laws are passed forcing them to lend money to any institution they deem as undesirable because they are a threat to public safety by marketing weapons of mass destruction that are not necessary for either hunting or self-defense. The anti-gun courts of course will rule in favor of the Banks.

    • I hope you are the fake Dacian trolling because otherwise the irony here is more than I can articulate properly.

      • Liberals are the most racist people you’ll ever meet so… it wouldn’t really be ironic, it would be an asshole showing their true colors.

        • It’s one of those truths that I realize from a lot of study and first hand observation but when you are raised to believe the south is racist and the north is the bastion of equality and cooperation reality does become a bit shocking and sometimes blind spots persist.

        • to strych9

          You live in your own little make believe world complete with 100 % projection. Just to name one of millions of incidents when Herr Drumpf the Racist President banned Muslims from entering the country it was the liberals who protested or when Far Right Religious fanatics have discriminated or past laws raping the rights of gays and transgenders it was always the liberals that protested

        • @SAFE:

          I don’t really pay that much attention to the geographic divide.

          I just LOL at the lily white anti racist liberals who say black children can’t learn basic arithmetic. That’s probably one of the more racist things I’ve ever heard, and it’s racist on so many levels and sublevels that it’s almost mindblowing to hear a “anti racist” say it.

          IMHO such commentary should get one a free throat-punch a day for life.

    • Yep, dacian the stupid has gone full-on, bats*** crazy. dacian, congratulations – that was literally your stupidest “comment” ever. You aren’t simply too stupid to insult, you’ve become WAY too stupid to parody.

      Take a month off (maybe a year, come to think of it), get your meds checked, take a remedial English class, and . . . don’t come back.

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  27. I will admittedly tell every that I have plagiarized the following definition, and ask what in the hell is going here anymore with comments and replies?

    A (“collective mind”) is appreciative to each and everyone who understands it well as well as contributing to understanding as a whole. Collective thinking is all about using collective minds of individuals around your society. When a collective mind is developed, it releases immense capabilities of individuals in society.

  28. The Second Amendment is pretty high up there in importance.
    So yes, it’s on par with discrimination based on race, religion, gender, etc.

  29. Let’s make all of the lawyers and judges and the lawmakers liable, when a law that they passed and endorsed, is ignored by criminals and results in the death of someone. Do the same with car dealer and manufacturers. It is all a ploy to remove weapons from the hands of the public so a group can take over the government with little fear of an uprising. I got news for them, there were other weapons way before guns. Many undetectable, some rather gruesome.

  30. Another opinion piece by a liberal journalist (note i did not say reporter) comparing apples to watermelons. If she had any intellegence she would have compared banks discriminating against gun manufactures the way the have discriminated against African Americans. She lost the augment when she compared the bias to riding a bus. But what do you expect from someone with no common sense. What scares me is she has procreated and thus is raising more idiots.

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