Ruger Announces the LC Carbine Now in 10mm Auto

1. Nice….but the Bear Creek Arsenal equivalent is literally half the price. I have two Ruger rifles and a Ruger pistol. I like Ruger firearms, but when I finally decide to part with the money, I think it will be for BCA.

   • Wasn’t BCA suffering some poor reviews of their products? Reno May gave them a scathing one recently after putting some of their items through the gauntlet.

2. Content moderation for absolutely no good reason. Reminds me of why I have moderated posting in this forum.

   Still reading what you all write…just minimizing my exposure to the artificially lacking intelligence.

   • Less of it over at SNW.

     • Actually, I’ve seen just as much at SNW, so probably the same mod engine.

       (BTW, my response to LifeSavor above was just moderated. Most of my TTAG comments are now held. Ugh)

3. I always thought 10 mm was the only caliber that made any sense in a PCC. If you like that sort of thing. A SMG in 9 mm, or .45 ACP makes more sense to me. Or, a rifle.

   • 10MM doesn’t see big gains like you see with .357 from a carbine. You only get something like 200FPS from 5″ to 16″.

     • With the to spec 10mm loads like underwood buffalo bore, Sig (surprisingly) or the typical 40sw adjacent loads? Really just have the old ballistics by the inch data to go by with 10mm.

     • That doesn’t make it any less awesome DrewN! Theres just something fun about the 10mm

     • Looking at the ballistics by the inch data, it’s more like 350FPS for the “good” ammo. For stuff like Winchester, Hornady or Federal don’t even bother just use a hand gun unless you want the benefits of improved sight radius. This would still be another fun one to SBR down to about 8″ or so. I’d love to do a .45 ACP one and stuff a can on it.

   • 9×25 Dillon (except for being reloader only) 357sig (getting there as well) 30 carbine(honestly not sure why this one is as uncommon as it is) 30 super carry (probably would be great in sbr). With that said have a few experimental loads ready for 10mm for on of the next out of state trips now that that friend has a Chrono and the hipoint 10mm carbine. Yeah yeah not the best but work with what you can get together up here.

   • 9mm. Ammo is less costly and available. Enable more practice time.

     I always see the pcc as a weapon for older, less capable folks that might have trouble handling a full rifle or shotgun. 9mm pcc would work for them.

     • I like my 9mm pcc (the ruger charger thing) as my home defense gun. A Romeo5 rides up top. She leans right up against the nightstand.

     • 380/32 acp for lighter firearms/recoil while quick follow-up shots can also fit this niche but the sbr laws make development of anything fun/useful in this area prohibitively expensive so realistically 9mm is it in that area.

4. It looks cool but a THOUSAND bucks?!? Oh some bastard apparently shot at Trump at Mar-a-lago! Fake newz at 11🙄

   • Secret Service shot at someone with a AK-47 near the golf course. Perp in custody.

     • Latest is that it is an SKS, scope mounted. No shots were fired by suspect.

5. Well dammit I wouldn’t have bought the LC in .45acp had i know a 10mm was in the pipeline. Dang.

6. Will it handle .40 cal? I have lost of brass. LOL

   • Should be a few 40sw variants floating around the larger manufacturers.

     • Keltec has the 40S&W Sub2000🙄

7. I like this in the way I like .357 lever guns. Very neat but I never actually buy one. This is still basically a modified pistol. I do own a CZ scorpion for what it’s worth.

8. Why is the MSRP over $1,000 and why does it weigh seven pounds?

   Get the actual street price down to $600 and the weight down to five pounds and I would buy one (or two, or three, or …).

   At that price and weight, I would just go with an AR-15 chambered in .300 AAC Blackout and a 16-inch barrel.

9. i paid 400 for the Ruger PC in 9mm a few short years ago. This gun is fundamentally the same gun just upgraded a bit. Calibers seem to dictate price all the time.

10. The price is a non-starter, I would prefer a .357 lever rifle which also chambers .38 SPL. Just makes more sense.

11. now that pistol braces are a thing again
    this thing would make way more sense as a 10.5
    because theres almost never anything to be gained ballistically
    by going from 10.5 to 16.5 in a pistol caliber
    all you end up getting in return
    is more weight and the inability to stuff it in a backpack
    of course if you want to put deep holes in stuff accurately with a 10.5 for less money
    the 300 blk and 7.62×39 are both pretty hard to beat
    a 10.5 in either of those calibers is about as close as it gets to a “do it all gun”

12. I love the 10mm. LOVE LOVE LOVE 10mm. Carry gun is an XD-M 3.8″ in 10mm. Great cartridge.

    But I think the .45 version of the LC Carbine makes more sense for home defense, because of its suppressor capability. In a home defense situation, I want to sling as much lead as possible, as close to the speed of sound as possible, as quietly as possible. A 16″ barrel of .45 +P HST should be right below 1100 fps, and with a can on the end it should be Hollywood quiet. That 230 grains is about as much lead as you can throw at subsonic, short of going for something like .458 SOCOM.

    The 10mm is gonna be loud no matter what you do. Even the close-to-subsonic HST and Gold Dot are going to go supersonic and be loud as hell. If you’re going to end up loud anyway, might as well just get a real rifle and get real rifle wound damage on the target.

    • 10mmForLife,

      Excellent and accurate commentary. I tip my hat to you fine sir or ma’am.

      If recreational shooting and hunting is your application, then 10mm Auto in a carbine is an excellent caliber. If home defense is your application, then .45 ACP in a carbine is an excellent caliber, with .40 S&W being a close second.

      Commenter 10mmForLife makes a fantastic case for .45 ACP in a home defense carbine: you might as well make the biggest possible holes in your attacker with the most possible penetration–that requires a large diameter and heavy bullet if you are going to stay well below supersonic velocities. (Staying well below supersonic velocities is critical if you want to use a suppressor and keep your shooting as close to hearing-safe as possible.)

      • While I don’t own anything in 45 and suppressors are a no-go in my state there is a lot to be said for that approach. In an absence of suppressor/sbr laws I can imagine we would see a lot of new development in pcc setup and design. Even with just having suppressors moving more quickly I think we will see a lot more in the next 5 years than the last 20. What can I say I like seeing variety and options.

13. Speaking personally, and I’ve used semiautomatic rifles in competition, the Mauser style Ruger Bolt Action Rifles are a lot more interesting to me. Of course To Each His Own still holds true.

    • Was eyeing a Hawkeye in 375 Ruger for silly fun purposes. More and better of everything is always good though.

14. If you own a 10mm Glock and have ammo then the Rug makes some sense however to start from scratch it can be costly when adding night sights, etc. If I were to make a choice it would be a less expensive Glock Mag 16″ AR-10mm.

15. are they going to make a “Charger” version? MP7 at home, in 10mm

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