SCCY Introduces the New CPX-4 .380 Auto Pistol

1. Not the best brand name. I read it as ‘Sucky Firearms’. Anybody else?

   • You need more training.

   • First the disclaimer, I have never shot one, they are way too small for my 5X hands. But, having said that, I know of serval people who have them and all of them seem to love them. Yep trigger pull is a bit heavy, but they are all new shooters and don’t mind the heavy pull. From what I understand the factory warrantee is excellent. One lady put hers together wrong and it was locked up tighter than I have ever seen. I couldn’t get it apart, so it went to our local smith who said, “its under warrantee, let them figure It out.” The factory replaced it. So, by all reviews I have seen and those I have spoken with that own them, they are rugged little beasts.

   • HAHAHA! I actually did, too!

     I prefer not to be shot with *any* bullet, but with all the improved 9mm ammo and subcompacts available now, I’d never buy a .380 ACP.

     • This .380 cartridge looks pretty serious:

       https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=127

     • Yep, I agree, but Dear ol’ Mom is an Octogenarian and so is Dear ol’ Dad. While you and I can go out and shoot a box through our hunting pistol (.44man) or .45acp or what ever with no problem, they can no longer train that way. An MP 380 EZ travels with one of them and a Cobra with 38 Specials +P the other. While DoD’s Cobra is not the S&W I gave him years ago, he is accurate with it and it weighs a lot less. DoM likes the MP and says the recoil is not as bad as the 9mm she still has in the safe.

       To each their own. I still say: Carry what you are comfortable with, will actually carry, is dependable and you are accurate with. I’d rather be misses by a 50AE than hit in the Adam’s apple by a 22LR.

       • I strongly concur about Carry what someone can handle, both in terms of recoilfor followup shots and being able to work a slide or whatever. I generally discourage the use of +P ammo for most people.

         Some very fine firearms just are not suitable for a lot of people. For example, the S&W Shield (with non +P ammo) shoots nicely for many women, but they (and some seniors) have difficulty working the slide even when not understress which makes it unsuitable for them. S&W made the EZ for those people.

         The number of 1 shot stops rather surprisingly has comparatively little to do with caliber. Most people simply do not like being shot. Yes, there’s that other percentage, but that is why being able to quickly and accurately deliver followup shots come in…shoot until the threat is stopped.

   • I thought the side read “ROESUCK” which seemed… unfortunate.

   • It’s a good company. Do some research. Like a Chevy, dependable, cheap, no frills. Great warranty with nice customer service. Good for everyone who wants some variety, also.

2. How does it compare to a Sig P365? Let’s have a test instead of SCCY’s advertising blurb.

   • Since this is .380 and the Sig is in 9mm, it isn’t much of a contest.

     • Well, the SCCY CPX-1/2 are both in 9mm and are the same frame size as the CPX-3/4, so…but all things being equal, it’s not the same class firearm that the SiG P365 is, The SCCY is much smaller…

       • Yes, except for height, width, and length. The SCCY is bigger in every dimension, it does weigh a few ounces less though.

       • I was being facetious. I know the 1&2 are 9mm. Here’s what I know from owning the 365 and holding and dry firing the SCCY. The SCCY has an odd shape (narrow feeling) and an awful trigger. The SCCY does not have a reputation for reliability.

         The 365 took some time, but after a few changes it was able to become reliable enough for me to consider.

       • The .380 SCCY guns are not built on the same frame as their 9mm. They are significantly different. I know it’s not obvious from the photos, but just hold them and you’ll see.

3. I bet it might twist a bit when shot. What the hell is roebuck quad lock?

   • The locking lugs are reinforced with old Sears catalogs

   • This is straight from SCCY’s material, as such it reads like add copy. With that in mind, here it is:
     SCCY Firearms introduces the all new CPX-3 Pistol in .380 ACP Caliber. The pistol features the Revolutionary “Roebuck Quad Lock” system. This patented technology locks the Barrel to the Slide in four distinct areas. The system locks up at the rear of the chamber, the front of the chamber and two adjacent points at the front of
     the barrel. The Quad Locking of the Barrel and Slide marries the two components into one solid piece.

     This improves accuracy by ensuring that the Barrel returns to the exact same location every time the Pistol is in Battery. While Locked in Battery the CPX-3 will not allow any side to side movement of the Barrel. Accuracy is repeatable shot after shot.

     From here: http://www.sccy.com/wpcontent/uploads/2016/02/SCCY_Catalog_2016.pdf

4. “The slide is effortless to manipulate making it ideal for consumers who have difficulty with traditional pistols.”

   It will be interesting to see how many more easy-to-rack and/or softer-shooting .380s we’ll see in the coming years. With an aging population and some other factors in play in the gun community, I can see this niche growing and more offerings coming.

   • You called it.

5. “Like their CPX-3, the double-action only CPX-4 is also chambered in .380 ACP, but adds an ambidextrous frame safety for those who prefer to carry their pistol locked.”

   One would think that they’d keep the model numbers “linked”, ie, odd model numbers have a manual safety, whilst even numbers don’t…

   SCCY makes a fine pistol, on par with Bersa…Use to carry one, traded it only because it was the last in, so the first out…given the need to own another pistol, I’d make it an SCCY…

   • To one that may know both the CPX-3 and the 4….is there a real world preference/difference….for one that may want to choose between the two…??

     • I WANT THIS NEW cpx–4. Real BAD AFTER BUYING THE cpx2. But for SOME REASON CANNOT FIND ANY PLACE I CAN BUY it

6. Awesome….. Probably one of the best values in handguns today….
   I miss my CPX2 and this looks like it will fill that void….

   • I never could get past that horrendous trigger! For about the same $$$ a Bersa Thunder380 is way better and great quality.

     • But on the plus side, SCCY support is very good!

     • Yeah, you’re not gettin’ a Bersa Thunder 380 for the same $$$ as the SCCY CPX-3/4…

7. I had a cpx 2 and ran 2 3 thousand rounds before wearing it out .good gun for short money i would recomend it to every one

8. I have found SCCY products to be well made, reliable, accurate, and just a good shooter. I had a CPX-1 with the manual safety but the little “wing” protector around the safety would bite into the web of my hand so I gave it to one of my sons who has smaller hands. I then got a CPX-2 (no manual safety) and it’s my car and boat gun. I have the requisite Colts, S&Ws, Rugers, Walthers, etc. but I trust that SCCY and for the money it’s hard, if it’s possible, to beat. If I wanted another .380 I’d seriously look at the CPX-3 (no manual safety). And, their products have a warranty that goes with the firearm. The snobs will look down their snoots at a SCCY but IMHO they are highly underrated and for the $ they are a great deal.

9. Probably will have the same failure to feed issues the other CPX models have.

   • I’ve owned two that never failed….. Although I probably only fired a couple hundred rounds through both….. But seemed reliable nonetheless….

   • I had the same problem with both of mine… then through a stroke of genius I cleaned and oiled the magazines. No problems since and I think those issues come down to the rough finish they use on the magazine itself. That finish causes drag on the follower so the follower gets bound up and then you get failure to feed until you slap the bottom of the mag or do like I did and clean it out and oil it.

   • Never had a failure to feed. I do have a problem with “pinky pinch”. A little skin gets pinched (while you shoot) where the magazine meets the grip. One of the Glocks does that too. Not sure which one, tho.
     Anyone else experience this on any other grip?

10. If I’m gonna go the .380 route I think I’ll aim for a Beretta or Bersa.

    • The Bersa is a good choice…

      • +1

      • Bought my wife(her first pistol) S&W shield 380 EZ …. its quality, accurate, reliable, easy to load magizines and EZ to shoot as it states . To me (and her) its the best 380 on the market ….

        • Although I’ve only handled and not shot one, the Browning 380 1911 maybe the best on the market, but at $500+ street price it better be.

        • AGREED wholeheartedly

    • Blowback 380s are 20th Century tech. In addition to them being bulky and heavy, I own a Beretta 84 with a massive peening problem. Sure, it’s reliable… but it beats itself to pieces every time it’s fired. Thanks, but no thanks.

      • Not a blowback. Thanks for attempting to comment.

11. Having handled and fired the original, I found it an uncomfortable gun to shoot, but in its defense, I have much larger than average hands (XL gloves are too tight and short). My biggest check on the con side is about the total lack of a rail for light/laser mounting in a modern production weapon. That shows a distinct lack of foresight in design IMO. There’s a niche for the gun, and at least it doesn’t look like an 8 year old designed it (something the Diamondback is guilty of). The few shooters I know that have a SCCY either love it or hate it, there appears to be no in-between.

12. I haven’t seen the CPX-4 yet. The CPX-3 is not the same size in all ways to the CPX-1 and CPX-2. They finally designed one with a shorted grip “length of pull” in the CPX-3. For those of us with smaller hands it’s just what we have been asking for from SCCY for years! The Grip to trigger length on the 1 and 2 are just a bit too much for many of us. It’s the same problem that Bersa has had in the past with the Thunder .380 Plus series of pistols. People with smaller hand just need a shorter grip length!

13. Sure is a lot of comments based on what people think, rather than what hey know.

    • Good observation about life in general from the Show Me state.

    • I know I want a manual safety.
      That’s why I looked a long while for the SCCY 1. Mostly just the SCCY 2’s around here.

14. Make it in 9 mm and I might give it a second look.. 380 is just too expensive to buy even if you find it in bulk.. especially in self-defense typr rounds..

    • They do make a 9mm, ya’know.

15. I have a CPX-3, which is the CPX-4 without a safety. It’s an excellent pistol with 1400+ trouble-free rounds in the 3 months I’ve owned it. The slide is indeed as easy to rack as my Ruger SR22, and way easier than any of my Glocks. I like this gun enough that I practice with it a lot and carry it almost every day. The only other gun that gets any real carry time these days is my Glock 42, when I need something smaller.

    I wish Glock or SIG or S&W or Ruger would come out with an easy to shoot, easy to rack double stack .380, but until then, SCCY has this market to itself.

    • Well said. There aren’t any guns like it. Although it’s a workaround, there’s an option of putting ETS 12-rounders and Fraurem grip on G42. It largely gets you there, but it’s not the same as getting one from the factory. Also, the 12-round magazine for G42 is rather long.

    • And…you can’t beat the price and good warranty. I looked at Taurus…one year warranty.

16. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 are the same with the exception of a manual safety being added to the CPX-4. I have the CPX-3 and find that the long but smooth trigger pull is an acquired taste and not unlike your average DA revolver. The materials and construction are very good especially for this price range, and the lock down barrel design does help make this accurate and repeatable. I’ve shot the Ruger LCP II and the Taurus Spectrum and find both of them to be so small in my hands that I can’t fire them very accurately, and they both have such tiny sights that they’re almost no-existant.

    To me they are only for up close and personal where you just point in the main direction and fire since accuracy is very tough. The CPX-3 is large enough that it feels like a real gun where you can get a good grip on it and it has actual sights on it. For this you sacrifice some some size in all three dimensions which makes it more shootable but less concealable. I don’t expect to fire 25,000 rounds through this, but knowing that if I did wear it out the manufacturer would stand behind it makes it a good value.

    If you want to customize it you can get a Galloway trigger that takes away about 25% of the travel.

17. I waited 2 years for the Sccy CPX 3 to make it to the southwest. No guns shop had them or could get them. They had lots of CPX 1 and 2. I have many 9mm wasn’t interested in another 9mm. I found a Bersa 380 CC model. with almost no-snag points. The Bersa runs great with a little break-in time. I will now wait for the improved CPX 4 to come to the market. High capacity 380s for CCW are rare. I’ve been waiting to try the CPX line of pistols. Hey! SCCY send me the CPX 4 with some ammo, I ‘ll give you an honest review.

18. The problem with all SCCY pistols is their failure to feed and/or eject tendency. ALL their pistols seem to have this issue. It can be a fun plinker once you get past the stiff trigger and long reset, but as an EDC I wouldn’t risk it.

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