The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear the case concerning Mexico suing some U.S. gun manufacturers for allegedly putting guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.
Mexico claims the companies deliberately chose to “profit off the criminal market for their products” and caused a flood of guns to fall into the hands of Mexican cartels. And the Mexican government wants the companies to pay billions of dollars in damages.
In August, a Federal Judge in Boston dismissed several companies from the lawsuit, including Sturm, Ruger and Company, Glock, Barrett Firearms, Colt’s Manufacturing, Century International Arms and Beretta. Companies still involved in the lawsuit include gunmaker Smith & Wesson and wholesaler Whitmer Public Safety Group.
Of course, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) precludes frivolous lawsuits against the firearm industry for damages caused by the criminal and unlawful acts of remote third parties. Consequently, a U.S. District court dismissed the case, finding the claims were barred by the PLCAA.
However, the 1st Circuit Court of Appeals revived the case on Mexico’s appeal, holding that Mexico’s claims alleging that the defendants know their regular business practices contribute to illegal firearm trafficking fit within a narrow exception to the PLCAA.
Response from the firearms industry to the Supreme Court agreeing to hear the case was unanimously positive. Lawrence G. Keane, senior vice president and general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), called Friday’s announcement “welcomed news.”
“Today’s announcement by the U.S. Supreme Court that they are granting Smith & Wesson’s petition to hear Mexico’s frivolous $10 billion lawsuit against lawful American firearm manufacturers is welcomed news to the entire firearm industry,” Keane said in an NSSF news item. “Mexico’s lawsuit seeks to blame lawful American firearm businesses for violence in Mexico perpetrated by Mexican narco-terrorist drug cartels and impacting innocent Mexican lives. It is not the fault of American firearm businesses that follow strict laws and regulations to lawfully manufacture and sell legal products.”
As Keane further pointed out, such lawsuits are precisely the reason the PLCAA was passed in the first place.
“This case represents exactly why Congress passed, and President George W. Bush enacted, the bipartisan Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA),” he said. “The case was rightly dismissed by a federal judge before the First Circuit Court of Appeals’ erroneous ruling earlier this year that reversed the district court order and reinstated the case.”
As Keane pointed out, companies following the law shouldn’t be persecuted by a foreign government for doing so.
“Lawful American firearm manufacturers follow American laws to make and sell lawful and Constitutionally-protected products,” he added. “The Mexican government should instead focus on bringing Mexican criminals to justice in Mexican courtrooms.”
In a brief submitted to the Supreme Court in May by the National Rifle Association, the organization urged the court to take up the case, saying Mexico had extinguished its right to bear arms and now seeks to do the same in America.
“To that end, Mexico aims to destroy the American firearms industry financially,” the NRA brief stated. “Mexico seeks billions of dollars in damages and the imposition of extensive gun controls in America while relying on shoddy data and false allegations to exaggerate the impact of Petitioners’ firearms on Mexican homicides.”
They’re still upset about Texas, and that foray into the Halls of Montezuma in 1846. Screw ’em. We can do it again.
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/halls-montezuma-marines-at-chapultepec.html
Unless mexico has video of manufacturers loading cartel trucks with firearms they do not have a pot to pee in.
The deranged mindset behind such lawsuits is the problem. It’s just like agenda driven democRats who see a deranged perp shoot up a defenseless school and run to blame everyone in the country who owns or has anything to do with firearms.
It is a fact that drama queen democRats calling for Gun Control following the murders of defenseless school kids and teachers has an effect on spoon fed America. The one thing known to put the brakes on such ignorance is information that shows the Gun Control they blindly join hands with History Confirms is Rooted in Racism and Genocide.
Bottom line…The evidence clearly shows Gun Control should be mandated by congress to come with a Warning Label like a pack of cancerous cigarettes.
Does it though? Companies are being sued for “marketing” and other nonsense. Polymer80 was sued out of existence, and they don’t even make guns.
When is the national divorce?
No boogie, Lou.
The US has degenerated into a suicide pact; no way out.
Read the end of the book. Of all the nations noted, at best the US is a cub of the lion, a tired, worn out lion showing up for the last battle of an exhausted life.
#2:
“Mexico’s lawsuit against gunmakers…”
Mexico has no jurisdiction here. They can buy our guns or not buy them. Why would we need to entertain their complaints for even a second? Mexico law is not our law. A “lawsuit” – lol. What “law?”
Therein is the problem Mexico has, bribery and corruption has penetrated the entire Mexican government. Individual Mexican citizens aren’t allowed posession of effective self defense arms, otherwise they would have revolted and thrown down their government and instigated hanging for the Narcos.
Oh, maybe that is why our own government is so hot to take effective arms away from our citizens!
We wouldn’t even have to. If we’d just close the border and deport, that’s pressure valve that is immigration will be plugged and the people in Mexico will instead begin to fight their own corrupt government and cartels and then maybe that country can have a real future. The biggest thing holding all of Latin America back is that pressure valve. Take that away and all the men will choose to fight.
We wouldn’t even have to. If we’d just close the border and deport, that’s pressure valve that is immigration will be plugged and the people in Mexico will instead begin to fight their own corrupt government and cartels and then maybe that country can have a real future. The biggest thing holding all of Latin America back is that pressure valve. Take that away and all the men will choose to fight.
It’s not the drugs. It’s a corrupt mexican government. That is the cause of the problem.
Mexico is an oil rich country. It could have a huge tourist business. But they are a socialist country. And the government failed on the battlefield. It lost big time against the cartels a few years ago.
Now the only thing they have left is lawfare. And unfortunately the libertarians liberals and the Leftists support the mexicans.
Exactly what “standing” does the corrupt mexican govt have in a US court? NONE GTH
Exactly. There is no product produced by an Ammerican company, publically held or privately held, that some foreign govt could not find an excuse to sue for – allowing this to go forward would be the equivalent of national economic, legal, and sovereign harikari. Which means the demunnists and commiecrats will be all for it.
Yeah well, they have standing under the express terms of the Constitution:
Article. III.
Section.
1….
2.
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
“Yeah well, they have standing under the express terms of the Constitution”
But isn’t that saying “The judicial Power” has authority over the cases, not that the plaintiff has standing to bring a case?
So how does the article say the plaintiffs (Mexico) have standing?
Because “The judicial Power” has authority over cases, does not mean the plaintiffs (Mexico) have standing?
.40 cal,
This is a tough one. Point the first? SCOTUS unquestionably has jurisdiction over this case . . . to the extent there IS a case. “Jurisdiction” is only the first hurdle. After jurisdiction comes standing – even IF there is a case, does the plaintiff(s) have standing to BRING the case. Unfortunately, standing is a complex and fraught analysis (made MORE complex by some truly bone-headed Appeals Court and SCOTUS decisions). Mexico arguably has standing, if they can demonstrate that they (i) engaged in legal commerce in the US, and (ii) that they have been demonstrably harmed by that commerce. While there is clearly an argument to be made, I think any rational person can conclude that the answer to that is “nah”.
Finally, they have to prove that the defendants are somehow culpable . . . which they aren’t. S&W makes the ubiquitous M&P 15, which is a (fairly) cheap and (fairly) decent quality AR platform weapon. And if S & W is “guilty” of making the M&P 15, then Ford and GM is “guilty” of making every car or truck that has ever been responsible for injuring someone because some @$$hole drove it, drunk.
SCOTUS has jurisdiction, Mexico ARGUABLY has standing, but . . . .they go no case. If and to the extent that US-manufactured arms are being used to commit crimes in Mexico, it is the fault of (i) the Lyin’ Hawaiian and his ‘wingman’ Eric Holder, illegally selling guns in Mexico, and (ii) the Mexican cartels importing weapons to support their war on the rule of law.
Is the suit complete bullsh*t??? Obviously. Will SCOTUS rule that way? I dunno, but my guess is “yes”. Let”s wait and see what SCOTUS does with this.
I see that the text quoted expressly grants the judges standing to ‘decide the controversy’ – it does not grant Mexico or any other foreign power standing to put Jim Beam out of business because Mexican alcoholism. Or Bic or WD40 out of business because Mexican vigilantes burn people alive. Should the Marianas sue American ranchers into bankruptcy for ocean rise? If the Court allows this crap, they certainly will be happy too.
And decide it they must – the Founding Fathers were not suicidal, and they did not write the Constitution to allow a bunch of international cartel/commie simps to destroy any sector of US private enterprise or the Bill of Rights they happen to disapprove of.
Although I doubt not that the Democrats and work-hungry lawyers will be all for it. “Show me the business, I will show you the tort” they will say…
Maybe the US Gov’t and every state sues the Mexican Gov’t for the illegal export of fentanyl and other narcotics into the USA. About 100 Billion USD should do. Mexico is still pissed off at loosing California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico to the United States and for loosing Texas to Texans.
Well if they’re still pissed off about that, I suggest we start giving a few select sections back to them.
Start with Kalifornia.
They can fight the CCP for it.
How about a 20% tax on international money transfers to Mexico, rising to 35% if the buyer can’t provide proof of legal presence here?
Now thats a good idea
Hear, hear!
USA’s Democrats/Socialists allow crime to run rampant in their jurisdictions, then try to use that crime to justify disarming the law-abiding citizens.
Similarly, the Mexican government allows crime to run rampant in their country, then tries to use that crime to justify demanding payments from USA companies and disarming the law-abiding USA citizens.
Ever wonder why the Supreme Court just lets all the lower courts thumb their nose at them? So does this Amicus party to the matter of Snope v. Bianchi. Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, goes over another amicus brief in the challenge to Maryland’s assault weapon ban. This time, the parties focus squarely on challenging the Supreme Court to act like it truly is this nation’s Supreme Court. And if ever there was a chance to once and for all end the mutiny of lower courts, this is the case.
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Do the members of the Court deemed “Conservative” by the commies-that-be (and their neighbors) still live surrounded “protesters”? Or are they currently secure in their possessions?
The Truth About the AR-15 In One Brief.
Everything you ever wanted to know about the AR-15 in one brief.
Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses another amicus brief filed in the matter of Snope v. Brown, a challenge to Maryland’s assault weapon ban. This amicus brief, authored by experts in the field, is an excellent roadmap of all the false rumors and fairy tales that are often used to pass legislation to ban these weapons. This memorandum systematically takes apart each and everyone of these arguments.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNLF4KTpbFg
especially read the brief its self … completely debunks the anti-gun lies about the AR-15.
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MASSIVE BREAKING 2A NEWS: ATF CAUGHT MAKING FALSE STATEMENT TO US SUPREME COURT.
In VanDerStok Supreme Court case, the DOJ filed a letter admitting to making a false statement in the case. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses.
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FEMA says the people of North Carolina and Tennessee are spreading rumors about them.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIBnT777TiA
They Have FAILED YOU … Updates On Donations & Checkpoints.
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This lawsuit against gun manufacturers just so happened to be filed in 2021. Who moved into the residence at 1600 Penn. Ave. in 2021? Nope, not just a coincidence IMO, they are working hand in hand by any means necessary. This is not only a Bill of Rights issue, outside forces (EU, UN, WHO, WEF, etc.) along with Dems who seam to hate this country are diligently working to knee-cap us.
“…and for loosing Texas to Texans.”
Nicely done.
“…outside forces (EU, UN, WHO, WEF, etc.) along with Dems who seam to hate this country are diligently working to knee-cap us.”
Politics is war by other means; hence, “Lawfare”.
America needs to stop caring about what other countries think.
We’re the most insecure, whiny, little bitch doormat of a nation on the planet.
“America needs to stop caring about what other countries think.”
America needs to tell other countries what those other countries are permitted to think.
However, America always believes in rehabilitation, thinking that even after a war, the vanquished can be trained to behave. The Romans (not Italians) decided that the vanquished can keep growing children, who will, in turn, antoginize Rome again. Thus the “Carthaginian Solution”. Settled the hash forever.
The CITIZENS of the United States should respond with a lawsuit against Mexico for knowingly and internationally enabling the tsunami of illegal aliens, Fentanyl and other drugs that are ravaging the United States. We should seize the Baja peninsula as compensation then forcibly deport all of the illegal aliens to Haiti and Cuba.
🇺🇸🥰Xax
Too little too late. If they had taken care of this, the AWB, reciprocity, Redflag laws and a bunch of other issues last term instead of that abortion of Rahimi then what is inevitable now may have been headed off almost in time. By next spring we will be well into things already, I fear. It’s already too late now.
Perhaps Mexico should declare war on the United States?, that would solve a lot of problems.
“Perhaps Mexico should declare war on the United States?”
The Mouse That Roared?
I don’t think Mexico has much of a long bow contingent.
Viva Max.
Delightful movie.
Venza,
In normal times, my comment would have been, “”Yeah, and if the 101st or the 82nd deployed at noon, they’d have time to clean their firearms and get chow before lights out”, but given how The Lyin’ Hawaiian and Senile Joe have turned our formerly mighty military into a woke, DEI-obsessed sociology experiment, I’m am hesitant to predict that. Not sure our current military could successfully take on Haiti. The DoD and the Pentagon are two more cesspools of government corruption that desperately need the attention of Roto-Rooter.
@LampofDiogenes
sad but true.
How to Educate Younger People About the Second Amendment.
Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, sits down with Ian Brown, the youngest employee at the National Association for Gun Rights to get some perspective from someone in their early 20’s about how young people are being misled about the importance of the Second Amendment and what can be done to actually get young people truthful and accurate information so that they can make their own minds up.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9l0l7U0Gk
Glenn Beck busts FEMA lying and hiding out after showing up a week late.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CydRW77Drs
BREAKING:Secret Service decided to put counter snipers on the AGR building TODAY! (actually yesterday…Trump back in Butler PA on 10/5/2024 at same location of previous rally assassination attempt – suddenly the same roofs as before are not too slopey.)
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Mexico can go pound sand. They’re the very definition of corrupt. They make America look squeaky clean.
How Waiting Periods and Mandatory Training Actually Cost Lives.
You know how some people consistently argue that waiting period and mandatory training before even being able to purchase a firearm can actually cost people their life? Well here’s an example of why those arguments have a lot of truth to them. Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses a terrible case from outside of Detroit in which Michigan’s unconstitutional gun laws nearly cost ta woman her life when trying to defend herself from an abusive ex-boyfriend.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKcKRmUgoA
The truth about FEMA money going to illegal aliens that the media is covering up. (or, how Biden’s admin is laundering money through NGO’s to support illegal migrants while American citizens suffer by FEMA lying by hiding the truth while telling the truth.)
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpboNyUnSUM
FEDERAL JUDGE ATTACKS GUN CONTROLLER ARGUMENTS IN COURT.
US District Court judge Iain Johnston asked powerful questions to the government attorneys in the public transportation conceal carry in Illinois. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner covers.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbJYj2kMCI
Elon Musk Passionately Defends The Second Amendment At Trump Rally.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVhiSgNPFDk
Kamala Harris ignoring a domestic violence survivor.
Kamala Harris looks stunned when asked to discuss ERPOs(red Flag laws) by a domestic violence survivor, then her staff put up a block. Harris has been very vocal
about her support for ERPOs, yet can’t find the time to have a discussion with someone these laws would negatively impact.
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32VBrVxh1eM
Kamala in Oct 2019 during her previous run for president.
WELL PLAYED WALMART.
Walmart New EXACTLY what they were doing when they REQUESTED that you not open carry in their stores.
Do you choose to feed into the propaganda?
Or do you choose to use your social media time and energy to create positive change in the 2A community?
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posted to show comparison from 5 years ago to today.
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