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SHOT Show Range Day: Integrally Suppressed KelTec SUB2000

January 21, 2020

https://youtu.be/Z6GftvyPnbM

KelTec was quietly showing off an integrally suppressed SUB2000 prototype at SHOT Show’s Range Day, and it was a huge hit. For obvious reasons. The folding, lightweight 9mm carbine is a super handy little gun, and suppressing it within the footprint of a 16-inch barrel is a big win.

This is an entirely in-house project for KelTec and they plan to begin selling integrally suppressed SUB2000s this year.

By lifting a locking tab and rotating the handguard, the integral SUB2000 still folds neatly in half. With a folded length of 16 inches it can fit in a backpack or all sorts of other carrying cases and bags.

Though there was a lot of other shooting going on and hearing protection was mandatory, the integral SUB2000 was clearly extremely quiet. It actually had a smoother, softer recoil impulse than the standard SUB2000 and absolutely zero gas to the face.

This is a really cool setup and we can’t wait to get our hands on one for a full review later this year.

27 COMMENTS

John January 21, 2020 At 19:07

Jeremy, You’re on a roll. thanks for the shares
enuf January 21, 2020 At 19:07

So how much of those 16 inches is actual rifled barrel and how much is the suppressor acting as a fixed barrel extension, while not contributing to muzzle velocity or accuracy?
- Jeremy S. January 21, 2020 At 20:36
  
  Barrel length doesn’t contribute to accuracy, and a 9mm doesn’t need much barrel to hit full velocity. Especially a subsonic round! This setup makes all the sense in the world.
  - enuf January 21, 2020 At 21:34
    
    Look to velocity difference and energy between the typical concealed pistol lengths and the 16″ length. Those are serious gains.
    
    http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html
    - donald P quasebarth January 21, 2020 At 22:01
      
      There absolutely are gains out a longer barrel, but you dont want velocity over around 1000 fps when shooting suppressed. If you werent concerned with supersonic crack, you would likely use a bigger cartridge. This is meant for super quiet 147gr rounds at 1000 fps.
    - Eric in Oregon January 22, 2020 At 11:02
      
      Those essentially plateau at 10″ anyway, especially the normal loads. 9mm just can’t use the whole 16.
Dennis January 21, 2020 At 19:10

Any ideas about price yet? Have a gen 1, one of the most accurate little guns I have.
- arc January 21, 2020 At 23:06
  
  This is on my shopping list when silencers are deregulated.
- Jeremiah S. January 22, 2020 At 23:42
  
  MSRP is $999 for the base model with suppressor, so in store should be $850ish. They will also be selling a decked out version with a vortex red dot and some other additions for $1450 MSRP. The new mounting system with the sideways lockup is proprietary to the CQB, but the may release it separately if there is enough interest. Should be on store shelves by September. This is all according to sales guy running shot show booth.
Sian January 21, 2020 At 19:16

“This is an entirely in-house project for KelTec and they plan to begin selling integrally suppressed SUB2000s this year.”

Availability predicted Q3 2025
- Andrew Lias January 21, 2020 At 20:48
  
  Probably all 5 of them that get made ROFL
  - GS650G January 22, 2020 At 06:02
    
    My thoughts exactly. It will be out of stock forever.
Rad Man January 21, 2020 At 19:34

I’ll pre-order the .45 that takes Glock mags right now.
- Jeff the Griz January 21, 2020 At 20:36
  
  I see 9mm on the side of that gun.
  - Rad Man January 22, 2020 At 06:20
    
    I know, just wishful thinking.
AlanInFL January 21, 2020 At 22:21

Please make a suppress versions of the 5.56 and 300BO.
Stephen January 21, 2020 At 22:36

What is the law on guns like these? Do you still have to have the tax stamp?
- Jeff the Griz January 22, 2020 At 05:22
  
  1 stamp. They get away with only needing the stamp for the suppressor. Since the suppressor is permanently attached to the short barrel it adds the overall length >16″.
  - Stephen Craig January 22, 2020 At 12:31
    
    Thanks Jeff the Griz.
Specialist38 January 22, 2020 At 00:13

I want that fore end on a standard sub 2000 so I can put on an optic or decent sights and fold it up.

Give it to me KelTec!

Not paying or waiting for a can. Just me.
- ChoseDeath January 22, 2020 At 06:49
  
  I’m right there with you!
- Duh Mass January 22, 2020 At 10:51
  
  Agree, Jeremy you buried the lede. The ability to fix a usable optic on one of these and still fold it over (and not having to wait a year for my tax stamp to clear) is a lot more exciting. This is my truck gun but it’d be a lot better with a red dot on it.
- Rlg October 19, 2022 At 11:47
  
  I know this is old, but check out red lion precision, if you haven’t. keltec took the idea and ran with it.
The Rookie January 22, 2020 At 00:27

Love the idea, and would love to have one (even more so if they come out with a 45 ACP version), but man I chafe at the thought of paying for a tax stamp (which I assume this weapon would require). I’ve yet to buy a suppressor for any of my firearms for that reason.
Specialist38 January 22, 2020 At 00:44

Just saw the Sig P210 Carry over on TFB.

At first I thought WTH! But it looks pretty nice. Subdued, but nice.

Proabably way more than I will ever pay not cool that they made it.

Maybe Ruger will make a subcompact SR 57 with a 3.5 inch barrel and 10 round magazine.
uncommon_sense January 22, 2020 At 05:45

The long barrel of pistol caliber carbines significantly reduces the sonic report/signature of firing. Seems like a modest suppressor would make them downright quiet, so quiet that the sound of the action cycling would probably be louder than the report of firing.
LazrBeam January 22, 2020 At 16:43

I wonder if Keltec will offer a retrofit front end for Gen 1 & 2 Sub 2000’s in 9 mm and .40 S&W?