The idea of a shotgun silencer isn’t anything particularly new — ever since No Country for Old Men came out a few years ago, people have been wanting to get their hands on such a device. Not many people, but people nonetheless. A couple companies have come out with their own version of a shotgun can, most notably Red Jacket Firearms as shown on one of their episodes. And every time someone mentions the idea to me, my response is always the same: why? I understand the George Mallory effect, but somehow I doubt that such a thing would be commercially viable. SilencerCo seems undaunted, and appears to have invited some people out to an event to show off their brand new shotgun silencer (our sources have already confirmed the product’s existence — there’s not really any doubt left at this point). The only question: will it sell? Make the jump for the press release.
WEST VALLEY CITY, UTAH – July 21, 2014 | Confirming its place as a trailblazer in the firearms industry, suppressor manufacturer SilencerCo has unveiled the first commercially-viable shotgun silencer ever produced. The company made the announcement today at an exclusive event near its Utah headquarters.
Every year, millions of sportsmen and women venture into the field to hunt. While advances in technology have spurred a record-breaking proliferation of rifle and handgun suppressors, shotgun owners have been without a real solution for sound protection. Some choose hearing protection in the form of earmuffs or plugs for relief in controlled environments, but most spurn their use in the field or in a home protection scenario, where the ability to detect other sounds is critical.
The new product, named the Salvo 12, provides a much needed option for shooting enthusiasts.
“The Salvo 12 represents a revolution in silencers, not just an evolution,” asserts Joshua Waldron, Chief Executive Officer for SilencerCo. “There is a huge installed base of shotgun hunters and shooters that has been waiting for a product like this for a long time, and we are proud to deliver it.”
In addition to its inherent novelty, the Salvo 12 is a modular design that allows the shooter to add or remove sections to balance length, weight and sound suppression needs. It arrives as a 12 inch suppressor, but can be reduced to 10, 8 and 6 inch configurations as needed.
For SilencerCo, answering the call for new products is nothing new. Since its origins in a Utah garage in 2008, the company has earned a fiercely loyal customer base by pioneering much-needed advances such as this. Among many others, its first and best-selling product, the Sparrow 22, is the quietest and easiest-to-clean rimfire suppressor on the market. The Osprey pistol suppressor still holds the only eccentric design in existence, allowing the host gun to maintain a flat sight plane.
Adding value to the sale, the Salvo 12 will carry with it the same celebrated lifetime warranty as all other SilencerCo products. To learn more or to find out how to purchase a SilencerCo Salvo 12, visit www.silencerco.com/salvo.
A subsonic slug would be fun to shoot! Probably all you can use in it. Buck would probably tear up the baffles.
It shoots all types of shotshells
Yeah don’t forget that shot is contained inside of the plastic shot cup (front of the ‘wad’), and only the plastic cup contacts the bore. It doesn’t open up until it hits the air outside of the barrel. No issues with suppressing a shotgun.
I think it makes a TON of sense for hunters. Especially those that sit in a blind for a long time before having to shoot somewhat ‘suddenly,’ and choose not to have plugs in or muffs on all day long and then shoot w/out ear pro because they can’t get them on fast enough when a bird comes by. I think there’s a huge business case for it.
Many of the less-expensive buckshot loads (especially imported ones) do not have a shot-cup; just a fiber pusher wad and a card wad for crimping.
Find an online photo of some of the transparent-cased buckshot loads and you can see the pusher wad, and no shot cup. Here are some links that show these shells:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/990389/sellier-and-bellot-ammunition-12-gauge-2-3-4-4-buckshot-21-pellets-box-of-10
http://www.rem870.com/2012/06/13/rio-royal-buck/
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=224340
They have released a new video (I first saw it today, 7-29), with more details:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/25/done-silencerco-releases-technical-video-salvo-12/
Quote from the article at the link: “The system is compatible with slugs and ‘full-wadded shot’ meaning it will not be compatible with all shells.”
I saw an episode of Moonshiners where the guy shot at animal (squirrel, or rabbit) that he suddenly spotted from inside a truck, while wearing no ear protection – that’s a semi-enclosed space, so it amplifies the sound. Geez! I can’t imagine what that was like! I always use protection, and I still consider it loud – so imagine the sound being multiplied by 2x or 1.5x without hearing protection.
How about an effective clamp-on muzzled brake for a shotgun?
Will it sell? Yes, if it works.
but….. will it FLOAT! That’s the real question!
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Well played.
I can’t get American silencers in Europe due to US laws.
*slow clap*
You’re in Europe?
europe, where you don’t have to cough up 200 dollars to legally own a suppressor…
Europe, where owning a suppressor gets You 10 years in jail. (at least in Italy where I live) 🙁
Yeah…but in italy there is no such thing as a short barreled rifle (SBR) so it isn’t too bad.
Well, anything with a barrel under 300 mm is considered a short firearm (handgun) in Italy 🙁
I’m in Norway where suppressors are completely uncontrolled. The only problem is that I can’t buy American suppressors (Murica doesn’t like it’s goods out of Murica). This usually isn’t a problem but sometimes you hit one out of the ballpark when it comes to silencers.
I presume only slugs through this, but a quiet gun that tears lumps out of victims sounds cool!
You mean tear lumps out of criminals, right?
Sorry, was going to edit that but it wouldn’t let me in. Yes, tears lumps out of criminals without tearing lumps out of your ears.
We should get a mod to edit that for him – out of courtesy, of course.
…… “After he stepped into my house, I shot my victim with a silenced handgun!” is not something I think will go over too well in court….
No. Works perfectly fine with any type of shot also. See my comment above (and watch slow-mo shotgun videos on YouTube to see the shot cup in action).
Many of the less-expensive buckshot loads (especially imported stuff) do not have a shot-cup; just a fiber pusher wad and a card wad for crimping.
Find an online photo of some of the transparent-cased buckshot loads and you can see the pusher wad, and no shot cup. Here are some links that show these shells:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/990389/sellier-and-bellot-ammunition-12-gauge-2-3-4-4-buckshot-21-pellets-box-of-10
http://www.rem870.com/2012/06/13/rio-royal-buck/
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=224340
They have released a new video (I first saw it today, 7-29), with more details:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/25/done-silencerco-releases-technical-video-salvo-12/
Quote from the article at the link: “The system is compatible with slugs and ‘full-wadded shot’ meaning it will not be compatible with all shells.”
I’m interested. I really wish the NFA process was quicker. You’d imagine with $200 per form that they’d want us to submit multiple items. Just saying, but if I could get it approved in a timely manner I’d probably have a suppressor for every caliber that I own.
slug only hunting in many states. I would buy one if it works
I hope they have them for us to try at the Texas International Firearms Festival!
I would most definitely buy one!
Are there any good subsonic 12 gauge slugs out there?
The only one that I can think of is the Hastings Low Recoil Youth slug, but I believe that has been discontinued (a quick search didn’t find anything). It clocked around 1020 FPS. Most of the other low-recoil slug offerings (before suppressors were available, this was the only reason to sell a low-speed slug load) run in the 1200-1300 FPS range, sometimes with a slightly lighter projectile.
Roll your own for a while, I guess.
Considering AAI Corp made suppressed shotgun shells back in the sixties that could be fired by any shotgun as is, it is surprising that nobody has really tried to solve this problem since then.
Now it attaches to standard choke tube internal threads that would be REALLY nifty.
^^This!!!!^^
Go to the website, that’s precisely what it does.
The application is simple: home defense. Shotguns are loud, and the police like to ask questions after you turn an intruder into a smear on the carpet. They aren’t going to appreciate that the only thing you can say is, “Muh, muh, muh”
Maybe if they’re fans of Beaker…
Maybe, but I’m a believer in Murphy’s law. After a bad night, I’m going to have a worse morning. I would somehow have the bad luck of having to talk to the one cop in my small town I’m not on a first name basis with, and who hates the idea of armed citizens. He is not going to be amused by Archer impression.
Yeah seriously. I think this thing is cool.
LANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Using this image for any story is far from a good idea.
I would agree that a photo showing just the gun, without the psycho-killer and/or gore, would be a better choice.
Even better might be a shot of the actual suppressor(s) being discussed.
RF, does that violate any TTAG standards for promotion? If not, and the company doesn’t mind (free exposure? I’d think that wouldn’t be a problem), please consider a change.
Well, the image is just to show the Hollywood idea and depiction of shotgun silencers….. which, uh, is kinda hard to do without the image depicting Hollywood’s idea of shotgun silencers.
It would sell like hot-cakes at a Lumber Jack Convention…. if it did not require a Class III or some other stupid equivalent.
Shot doesn’t separate from the shot cup until about 4-5 feet after it leaves the muzzle. Saw some slo mo of Jerry Miculek. The British have been using shotgun silencers for decades.
“And every time someone mentions the idea to me, my response is always the same: why?”
To make it quieter.
Yup, makes close range assassinations more comfortable (and polite).
Well, you would know…
Thats how we do it in Norway. Back in the old days we used crossbows from motorcycles but when crossbows were sorta banned we resorted to suppressors (especially the steel ones, they make good bludgeons).
Besides, it is uncouth and rude to not use a suppressor. Where is the courtesy, y’know what I am saying?
I wonder how this would affect shot patterns.
“And every time someone mentions the idea to me, my response is always the same: why?”
Is this a trick question? For the same reason sombody might want to silence a gun or rifle? To preserve hearing while hunting ducks and other game? You really can’t see the applications? Why are you writing on this website again?
It was the first episode, season 1 of Sons of Guns that featured the Red Jacket shotgun suppressor. Although they claimed to have suppressed it quite a bit, I think they had it at 38 DB, it was still pretty loud in my opinion – not something I would call “silence.”
http://www.metrogun.com/orion.html
When you look at these images with the long suppressors, it really makes you laugh at Hollywood’s idea that shotgun suppressors are these teeny, tiny things.
LOL – Delusional!
So much for Jill Biden scaring off intruders with a loud blast off the back porch.
“…SilencerCo has unveiled the first commercially-viable shotgun silencer ever produced.”
Really?
http://www.saddleryandgunroom.co.uk/Gunroom/SG_Hushpower.htm
While the item you linked is cool (and I mean REALLY COOL), I take “commercially-viable” to mean that it will be user-installable on any of the millions of single-barrel screw-choked shotguns already in the hands of hunters, shooters, and home-defenders in America.
Based on that interpretation, I think they are probably correct.
Yeah, it could be considered nit-picking.
Thanks for the educational material at the link; I’ve never seen one of those before!
It’s now even the first one in the USA (Irongoat guns makes one). I like SilencerCo but I hate false advertising.
The Hushpower ones can be mounted on any shotgun (they make screw on ones too).
Never mind self defense applications for a shotgun silencer. This product will sell otherwise.
Hunters that train puppies to hold point when the bird flies will love this. Forget puppies… My 4 year old dog is great with a gun, but it still distracts him more than I like. A silencer would calm him even more in the field. If I am right, this silencer will sell FAR more easily than a pistol or rifle silencer. Upland gamebird hunters are a prime target market… especially those with dogs.
I will save for the stupid silencer stamp starting this week because of this product.
Should of name it after me, friendo…the ChiGurh 12.
Claiming this suppressor to be hearing safe according to OSHA standards is dishonest, negligent, reckless, and immoral, at least according to the official 1998 standards I’m looking at right now (“Criteria for a Recommended Standard: Occupational Noise Exposure, Revised Criteria 1998” DHHS (NIOSH) Publication No. 98-126; available from the CDC at CDC.gov). This shotgun is, according to Silencerco figures, in the shortest configuration (6″) 140.6 dB at the shooter’s ear and 149.2dB at the muzzle. Those figures were probably recorded with a long barrel, and the suppressor would be even louder with a short barrel. A person should always wear hearing protection over their ears when shooting or standing near someone shooting this suppressor. According to OSHA standards, exposure to noise 130-140 dB is permissible for less than a second and above 140 dB is not permissible at all for any length of time. In the best case with this suppressor, after about a single suppressed shot without ear muffs or plugs the shooter will have met his maximum daily allowable OSHA noise exposure. However, it is possible that in just one suppressed shot he will have been exposed to a level of noise that according to OSHA rules is never considered hearing safe. Anyone who goes out for a day of shooting with this suppressor without wearing ear plugs or muffs will certainly be subjected to levels of noise exposure with the potential to cause permanent hearing damage.
Marketing aside, this is a great new product. It looks like a good design, a bit heavy but it’s pretty much the only non-custom and commercial off-the-shelf comparable product in town and a must-have for home defense especially. I love the modularity, making it adjustable for the right match to each shotgun for handiness, as well as compactness in an America where shotguns with barrels less than 18″ are highly-regulated NFA items. I like Silencerco and their products. Silencerco, I hope that with these products you will be protecting the health and safety of your customers, and that you will not damage your customers’ hearing by misleading them in the information about your products you provide.
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I posted the above in the comment section for Silencerco’s YouTube reveal video.
Nick, do you really have to be a Fuddy-duddy poo-pooing new firearms innovations as “Why do you need one of those? What purpose does it serve? Why do you want one of those?” You don’t have to buy one if you don’t want to! This has obvious advantages for self-defense and hunting (especially when shooting around animal hunting companions, see Toby in KS’s comment above), as well as the reasons suppressors are fun in general for shooting, like less worry about potential hearing damage and noise complaints. Plus it might have a nice effect on the recoil. Reducing the blast gets rid of a major downside to relying on a shotgun for defensive purposes. If you don’t have time to throw your earmuffs on before you fire your ears will be ringing and you might not even be able to see due to the flash in the dark. That disorientation puts you at a big disadvantage if there are further threats. Not to mention that you could be living the rest of your life with damaged hearing. I think this product should be popular with many shotgun owners.
Good for subsonic slugs, yespls. All though I don’t know how it’ll effect the balance of the weapon.
this is a product that would go over big for duck , turkey or any shotgun activity . the cost of the permit as well as the cost of the silencer. And the refit would make it expensive for some. but for those who could get one, great idea.
Great recreational product . Not so cheap for some, permit ,silencer, refit. but I like it for all shotgun sport.
Is THIS the one they’re talking about:
http://youtu.be/K1nyIClLvYU
I have to say, this is really exciting! 🙂 Imagine if they created a longer one!!
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