One of the not so secret secrets in the gun industry is that SilencerCo Sakers have a habit of departing the end of the barrel and making their way downrange. Ask anyone at SilencerCo and they’ll tell you that the trifecta mount is fine assuming it’s used properly. If not, the cans tend to go flying. Generally speaking, the ASR mount from the Specwar series seems to get the nod for being a bit more robust and gun blogger proof.
For 2017, rumor is that SilencerCo is dropping the Specwar series entirely, bringing the ASR mount to the Saker, and calling it good. Having shot the Saker 7.62 in various settings over the years, I have always been fairly pleased with the sound reduction and performance.
This is a step in the right direction for the series as it removes an internal competitor for the Saker and improves the series with a more loved mount. Pricing should remain in the sub $1000 range moving forward.
The question is can you retrofit an existing Saker to use this new mount? For a tax stamped item, that’s not a minor consideration.
Yes. You’ve always been able to.
Wait for their sales and get an asr mad mount and flash hider/or/ muzzle break.
http://www.capitolarmory.com/silencerco-saker-asr-maad-mount.html
Dead Air Armanent just launched mounts for Saker and Omega that adapts them to their Key Mount. Unless SiCo has some plan for upgrading current Saker owners to the ASR mount (ie you have to spend your own $$) you’d be wise to step up to something more robust. The ASR isn’t without issue, they liked to lose the teeth in the two locking pieces and work their way free as well.
Sico is offering a swap for unused trifecta mounts and muzzle devices for ASR mount and muzzle devices.
This.
Dead Air’s system is a taper compression mount that mechanically simpler while also being effectively idiot-proof. In other words, it’s better in almost every way.
It’s what I’ll be using on my Saker as soon as BATFE sees fit to approve the paperwork.
Hard to beat direct thread. Lighter, simpler, cheaper.
Unless you’re not fond of walking around with an extra pound and a half of steel attached to the front of your rifle and never want to fire it unsuppressed.
As an owner of both, i disagree. I hate direct thread. It works it’s way free under fire, and when you want to take it off you need to have your flash hider and wrench handy to renistall.
Retrofit mount will be available. If you just got a saker with a trifecta, sico will swap your unused mounts and muzzle devices. They will continue to support the trifecta. MSRP is much lower than the previous model. It would knock down Street Price quite a bit. I don’t work for sico but I talked with them a couple weeks ago about the new cans.
I’ve looked my trifectas, my problem has always been too tight. I’d never heard about the launching sakers prior to the change.
“…SilencerCo Sakers have a habit of departing the end of the barrel and making their way downrange.”
So, what’s SOP when you clobber a can like that?
Back to the SOT manufacturer for a rebuild?
How broke can one expect to be?
(Translation – Do you at least get a kiss and a believable “I love you” lie?)
Sico warrants stupid once
Never had any issues with my Sakers or Trifecta mounts. Odd that the mount design I passed over for the more trim Trifecta is now the standard…
Lol, they renamed it the Saker ASR because it was probably too hard to make an acronym out of “we had to go back to the old SWR mount because the trifecta QD sucked a giant bag of dog dicks”
That’s some fancy marketing right there.
The other option was ” we had a quick, easy to use mount but there were a few guys that couldn’t figure out how to use it properly, then bitched about it, and it was easier to give them the old bag of dog dicks because r&d for that stuff was paid for way before the saker came around”.
As an engineer, I have to say that if your ‘new hotness’ is confusing enough that a not-insignificant number of your customers are breaking the device in standard use, it’s definitely the design.
As and engineer, and owner of three Sakers with Trifecta mounts, I humbly disagree – to a point.
The installation process is incredibly simple:
Drop the Saker onto the mount and rotate until it drops over the index notches (you should not hear ratcheting clicks during this step). Once indexed, rotate the can clockwise to tighten (you should hear ratcheting clicks). To remove simply rotate the can counter clockwise. At the end of the rotation you will feel a clunk instead of a click which is the locking tabs retracting. The can will effortlessly lift off of the mount.
The Problems:
Installation Error:
If during installation you don’t let the can sit down over the index notches the locking tabs won’t engage behind the load shoulder. You can tighten it and it will engage the locking tabs into the tapered sealing area and make ratcheting sounds and feel tight. The sealing area is a cone so as soon as you put a high pressure round through it the Saker can launch.
Tightness Issue:
The Trifecta mounts can lock onto the muzzle device where the inner cone of the mount interfaces with the outer cone of the muzzle device. This seems to be due to tight tolerances, putting a hot can on a cold muzzle device, or a combination of both. Mine have all been tight when new but have worn in and loosened up nicely with use. I also ensure they are lubed with high temp grease to ease removal, but I use grease on all of my QD mounts (AAC 51T, Thunderbeast, SilencerCo Trifecta, SilencerCo ASR).
The process isn’t confusing but attention has to be payed during installation. This is true for all makers QD mounts. My dealer who does demo/machine gun shoots will tell you that all of the mounts have had some trouble – even the highly touted Dead Air Keymount.
Does standard use entail the mint being installed correctly? Seriously, how hard is it to line up 2 tabs and twist?
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