Holy crap, that’s cops lucky he didn’t get shot with his own gun.
What’s the beef? The dude just wanted to see the officer’s gun.
Was that actually a disarming attempt by the blue shirted man? Or simply being goofy and giving the officer a “feelup?”
Abbott and Costello couldn’t have done it better.
What’s with the other cop? Standing there looking dumb while his partner is trying to avoid the gun grab. This is why I can’t be a cop. If I’d been the second cop, I’d have just shot him dead and saved myself having to wrestle with him.
Familiarity and repetition in the workplace leads to complacency with the potential to create many a dangerous situation, especially in a first responder setting. “Stay alert, stay alive.” Words to live by people.
Lets not forget the tough guy mentality as well. I’m a cop so no one better mess with me and all that. I know a few cops who think this way. Think that the buck stops with them. Guys I went to high school with. Guys I beat up while on the wrestling and karate teams. Some guys just get or have the ego when they become a cop and believe no one better mess with them. Whether this leads to complacency I really don’t know. But this is sad indeed.
Meh. Doing courtroom/statehouse duty is the popo equivalent of being put out to pasture.
You are either nearing retirement, you have committed a grave political error, or you are just a tool that nobody wants on the street.
Much like not being able to pump your own gas in Oregon, those gigs are an employment program. A well-paid one to be sure, ergo the creme-de-la-creme ain’t pullin’ that duty.
I’d call this a decent encounter with a satisfactory outcome. If you are a cop at city hall, a profound imbecile reaching over the counter to take your firearm is probably not something that happens every day. There are behaviors so inexplicably stupid they can’t be fully anticipated. Sometimes it’s not hard to understand the opinion of the public that police officers may tend to cultivate over time. If, the next time you get pulled over, the cop treats you like a child or an idiot, this is why.
Meanwhile, cop 2 drew his weapon in a timely but not hasty way, while cop 1 had the presence of mind to keep hold of the guy so he could not run away, thus sparing them the trouble of chasing and/or shooting him. The perp was then successfully wrestled down and neutralized with no apparent injuries to anyone. That’s a good day in their line of work.
I would not be so hasty to criticize. You know, it looks a lot smoother on TV police dramas because there, all the actors were reading from the same script. In real life, the choreography is not nearly as unified. We know what many of you guys would do when seeing your gun being taken away from you: first, you would shit your pants, if you haven’t already.
“I’d call this a decent encounter with a satisfactory outcome.”
… an encounter that should not have happened, hence Situational Awareness…
“If you are a cop at city hall, a profound imbecile reaching over the counter to take your firearm is probably not something that happens every day.”
No, it isn’t. However, a guy trying to take a cop’s gun happens regularly. These two weren’t told this apparently…
“There are behaviors so inexplicably stupid they can’t be fully anticipated.”
Again, a guy taking a cop’s gun is not uncommon. If I were a cop, a prep shooting me with my own gun would be one of my biggest fears and embarrassments.
“Sometimes it’s not hard to understand the opinion of the public that police officers may tend to cultivate over time. If, the next time you get pulled over, the cop treats you like a child or an idiot, this is why.”
I agree. I can imagine what these guys deal with.
“Meanwhile, cop 2 drew his weapon in a timely but not hasty way, while cop 1 had the presence of mind to keep hold of the guy so he could not run away, thus sparing them the trouble of chasing and/or shooting him. The perp was then successfully wrestled down and neutralized with no apparent injuries to anyone. That’s a good day in their line of work.”
True, but the article is about situational awareness and obviously how important it is, especially for our ‘protectors’.
“I would not be so hasty to criticize.”
I am. If this guy had to get shot with his own gun and his fellow or other people around this would have been a tragedy. There would be outrage. A tragedy that is so easily avoided that went so wrong. Add in all the silly people on the news with their useless opinions about firearm control and how this could or this should have happened and blah blah. At the end of the day it was dumb all round.
“You know, it looks a lot smoother on TV police dramas because there, all the actors were reading from the same script. In real life, the choreography is not nearly as unified. We know what many of you guys would do when seeing your gun being taken away from you: first, you would shit your pants, if you haven’t already.”
If this guy was not being paid to man a security point I could understand. If this situation had led to someone getting shot there would be outcry for blood against the ‘idiot’ cop that let this happen. I personally am not arguing that the handling of the situation was AFTER a gun was grabbed was not ideal. I am stating that it is sad that it happened in the first place. If these guys are not doing their jobs and so many people depend on them to protect them (for some reason) why is it not unacceptable that this happened? Does this guy still have a job? Is he still being paid to make more mistakes? What defense is there that this cop let his guard down when that was what he was paid to do?
Holy crap, that’s cops lucky he didn’t get shot with his own gun.
What’s the beef? The dude just wanted to see the officer’s gun.
Was that actually a disarming attempt by the blue shirted man? Or simply being goofy and giving the officer a “feelup?”
Abbott and Costello couldn’t have done it better.
What’s with the other cop? Standing there looking dumb while his partner is trying to avoid the gun grab. This is why I can’t be a cop. If I’d been the second cop, I’d have just shot him dead and saved myself having to wrestle with him.
Familiarity and repetition in the workplace leads to complacency with the potential to create many a dangerous situation, especially in a first responder setting. “Stay alert, stay alive.” Words to live by people.
Lets not forget the tough guy mentality as well. I’m a cop so no one better mess with me and all that. I know a few cops who think this way. Think that the buck stops with them. Guys I went to high school with. Guys I beat up while on the wrestling and karate teams. Some guys just get or have the ego when they become a cop and believe no one better mess with them. Whether this leads to complacency I really don’t know. But this is sad indeed.
Meh. Doing courtroom/statehouse duty is the popo equivalent of being put out to pasture.
You are either nearing retirement, you have committed a grave political error, or you are just a tool that nobody wants on the street.
Much like not being able to pump your own gas in Oregon, those gigs are an employment program. A well-paid one to be sure, ergo the creme-de-la-creme ain’t pullin’ that duty.
I’d call this a decent encounter with a satisfactory outcome. If you are a cop at city hall, a profound imbecile reaching over the counter to take your firearm is probably not something that happens every day. There are behaviors so inexplicably stupid they can’t be fully anticipated. Sometimes it’s not hard to understand the opinion of the public that police officers may tend to cultivate over time. If, the next time you get pulled over, the cop treats you like a child or an idiot, this is why.
Meanwhile, cop 2 drew his weapon in a timely but not hasty way, while cop 1 had the presence of mind to keep hold of the guy so he could not run away, thus sparing them the trouble of chasing and/or shooting him. The perp was then successfully wrestled down and neutralized with no apparent injuries to anyone. That’s a good day in their line of work.
I would not be so hasty to criticize. You know, it looks a lot smoother on TV police dramas because there, all the actors were reading from the same script. In real life, the choreography is not nearly as unified. We know what many of you guys would do when seeing your gun being taken away from you: first, you would shit your pants, if you haven’t already.
“I’d call this a decent encounter with a satisfactory outcome.”
… an encounter that should not have happened, hence Situational Awareness…
“If you are a cop at city hall, a profound imbecile reaching over the counter to take your firearm is probably not something that happens every day.”
No, it isn’t. However, a guy trying to take a cop’s gun happens regularly. These two weren’t told this apparently…
“There are behaviors so inexplicably stupid they can’t be fully anticipated.”
Again, a guy taking a cop’s gun is not uncommon. If I were a cop, a prep shooting me with my own gun would be one of my biggest fears and embarrassments.
“Sometimes it’s not hard to understand the opinion of the public that police officers may tend to cultivate over time. If, the next time you get pulled over, the cop treats you like a child or an idiot, this is why.”
I agree. I can imagine what these guys deal with.
“Meanwhile, cop 2 drew his weapon in a timely but not hasty way, while cop 1 had the presence of mind to keep hold of the guy so he could not run away, thus sparing them the trouble of chasing and/or shooting him. The perp was then successfully wrestled down and neutralized with no apparent injuries to anyone. That’s a good day in their line of work.”
True, but the article is about situational awareness and obviously how important it is, especially for our ‘protectors’.
“I would not be so hasty to criticize.”
I am. If this guy had to get shot with his own gun and his fellow or other people around this would have been a tragedy. There would be outrage. A tragedy that is so easily avoided that went so wrong. Add in all the silly people on the news with their useless opinions about firearm control and how this could or this should have happened and blah blah. At the end of the day it was dumb all round.
“You know, it looks a lot smoother on TV police dramas because there, all the actors were reading from the same script. In real life, the choreography is not nearly as unified. We know what many of you guys would do when seeing your gun being taken away from you: first, you would shit your pants, if you haven’t already.”
If this guy was not being paid to man a security point I could understand. If this situation had led to someone getting shot there would be outcry for blood against the ‘idiot’ cop that let this happen. I personally am not arguing that the handling of the situation was AFTER a gun was grabbed was not ideal. I am stating that it is sad that it happened in the first place. If these guys are not doing their jobs and so many people depend on them to protect them (for some reason) why is it not unacceptable that this happened? Does this guy still have a job? Is he still being paid to make more mistakes? What defense is there that this cop let his guard down when that was what he was paid to do?
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