Smith & Wesson Rolls Out the New Aluminum-Framed M&P9 M2.0 METAL

1. I don’t know how it shoots, how it carries or anything else about it but damn that looks GOOD.

   • Agreed

2. That’s an M&P I might want to buy!

3. I like it’s looks, but it won’t be for sale in WA except in a neutered version, so I guess I’ll take a pass for now.

   • Similar issues re NY but like the idea/look and will keep an eye for similar in 40sw/357sig.

4. OUT STANDING , ALL METAL WAY TO GO ON GUNS , SKIP THE POLYMER N ALLOY TYPE STUFF.

5. Meh, a polymer design pistol realized in metal.

   • “They used to make guns out of metal, didn’t they Grandpa?”

6. So the metal frame just about doubles the price?

   • Mass injection molding vs stamped/machined + finishing of harder substance = more time/cost to produce I am guessing. May also cost more per equivalent unit in raw materials as well as the not being produced in economy of scale like 1911 frames.

   • It will hit the streets around $700, that puts it on par with the Beretta M9. Cheaper than many of the metal Sig pistols. It’s expensive but I think it’s the optics cut, new fancy trigger, and adjustable back strap system on the metal frame that add to the price.
     I wonder if these will removes these features for cheaper versions in the future.

     • I doubt it. All the high end versions of the various popular striker fired guns sell at MSRP or close to it.

7. T6? It’s either 7075 or 6061. Most of the time when manufacturers don’t/won’t specify it’s 6061. With that being a question and no manual safety it’s nice for someone else.

   • Agree. T6 is the chemical heat treatment hardness, not the alloy.

8. Safety: No Thumb Safety

   Action: Striker Fire

   Oh, noes! It won’t get the Dacian Seal of Approval! It’s an accident waiting to happen!

   • lol doomed to the fate of 45 gap 40sw and others, doooooomed.

9. What’s old is new again, cool.

10. I do not have either the budget or inclination to purchase guns just “because”….

    I would like this M&P 9 in metal, but I already have one in polymer.

    All of my firearms must have a specific purpose.

    Pocket gun for when I need that level of concealment.

    Three other 9mm pistols for EDC and for staging around the house.

    Shotgun for if and when the chaos comes to my doors and windows.

    Rifle in 5.56×45 for keeping the chaos at a distance.
    Rifle in 22lr because that is what my wife can shoot.

    Next purchase: either a larger caliber pistol or a larger caliber rifle. I hear climate change is causing polar bears to migrate into Pennsylvania.

    • Keep an eye in the used section for Red/Blackhawks, buddy of mine found a great one for around 700 (hopefully PA still has lower prices than NY for used).

      • SAFE,

        Will do so. Thank you!

      • My favorite .44 mag was the Blackhawk. I preferred it to the S&W 29. Back then the .44 was the upper limit.

        Now I’m too old to push that limit.

        • Hoping to get around to the 475 linebaugh/ 480 ruger option someday but will need a promotion or two before I can justify a pistol starting at 1300 ish. Till then probably going to do the same thing my buddy did so I can reload 44 for myself as well.

    • Polar bears? Pretty sure Dr. algore announced that they all would be dead a decade ago.

      • Would he be related to Dr. Al Gorithm, who is using the Web to shoot down all independent thought?

    • Ralphie firmly took the risk of appearing as if he had lobsters crawling out of his ears and subtly added…

      Flick says he saw some grizzly bears near Pulaski’s candy store.

11. That looks Great. Good to see options like this.

12. Geez, someone should produce a nice n simple, all steel, slim single stack, hammer fired gun with great ergonomics, excellent aesthetics, great reliability, plenty of aftermarket support possibilities and in a hard hitting caliber, say .45acp or something and maybe offer it in a couple different barrel and grip lengths or something. I bet they would sell like hot cakes once people caught on…

    • They already did. The Makarov. 🙂

      • Complete with second-strike capability for when your cheap Berdan-primed steelie ammo needs a little extra persuasion to fire. 😀

      • Touche’! Or however it’s spelt… still waiting for the Mak in 45 tho. Guess it’s gonna be an even longer wait now up here in the colonies…

13. True, Aluminum framed handguns are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but often are even less durable as aluminum has a bad reputation of cracking and the frame rails wear out sooner than steel frame guns do. Plasticky guns usually have carbide inserts to prevent the plasticky frame from wearing out.

    Another downside is price. Notice how expensive this gun is to the same gun that would have a cheap plasticky frame.

    Contrary to popular belief aluminum will pit to the point where the frame will be destroyed. Ask me, I have a Beretta that has this problem. Plasticky guns do not rust but sunlight and age do eventually destroy plasticky frames.

    If you drop an aluminum frame handgun it will usually crack its frame faster than a plasticky or steel framed gun will.

    And last but not least the new Smith gun does not have a manual safety. For me, no safety means a no buy period.

    • Bless your heart. You can’t help yourself, can you?

      • We have Dacian the Fudd today.

    • Interesting observations. I think the gun is gorgeous, but if it has durability problems as well as being over five ounces heavier and listing for $270 more, I am not really interested. I agree about semi autos without safeties as well. One accident can have catastrophic consequences.

      • How on Earth do you “Wear out” frame rails? Even Googling I can’t find a single instance of this happening. Beretta doesn’t manufacture aluminum framed anything! How long are you leaving polymer framed guns in the sun for the polymer to get sun damage? This is the 21st century, aluminum is used in suppressors and AR receivers without any such issues. You are the biggest baffoon I have ever seen. You should not own or be around any guns.

        • Serious shooters can and will encounter this problem. I personally have had two aluminum framed 1911s crack; so I’ve reached the point where I refuse to purchase an aluminum 1911 anymore. Give me steel or give me a plastic gun.

        • Stick a magnet to the FRAME of a Beretta 92 variant…bet it won’t stick…and it’s not because it is made from stainless steel either. Yup, Aluminum. Google that, and also the definition of Buffoon.

14. So… Production Class USPSA?
    Those have to be either striker or DA/SA

    Could sell to that market I guess. No thumb safety, so I wouldn’t even consider it for a carry piece.

    • Found the Fudd.

15. there is no such thing as T6. T6 is a heat treating standard.

    It could be 6061 or 7075 or something else. But it can’t be made of “T6”

16. ” plasticky guns usually have carbide inserts ” …. Um, no. Carbide is an extremely brittle ceramic which if it somehow lasted a few hundred rounds, would pretty much remove the slide rails. Fail !!

    • to Pb

      I did a little more research on this and the Glock rails are made from stainless steel. Although you can only see the end of the rail it is rather long and runs under the plastic. They did this because they did not want the rail to pull out of the plastic frame as it would have if it had been made too short. Only the end of the rail contacts the slide.

      Glock did have a lot of problems with their rails initially. In the first attempt the rails surface was too short allowing the slide to fall off the frame when the gun was dropped so Glock made the rail longer and this resulted in the slide jamming up to often. In the 3rd attempt Glock finally got it right using an intermediate length but never admitted this to the general public.

      https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/27/are-left-right-glock-rails-connected-inside-the-frame-lenny-magill-knows-the-answer/

17. When they make the frame out of stainless steel I’ll be interested.

    • Bingo. Aluminum guns basically weigh as much as the polymer guns, and aren’t as strong.

18. Why?

    • Because it’s purty and Sig sells one?

19. Really… why? I love my S&Ws and that one looks nice and all but I can’t justify 50% more expensive and no idea how much less durable this thing is. And what’s with all these “no safety, no purchase” comments…? It’s called… USE THE SAFETY BETWEEN YOUR EARS AND KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE D*** TRIGGER UNTIL READY TO FIRE. Sheesh

20. Nice like it alot o he’ll it’s bad ass

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