To its supporters, the system is a more effective and less obtrusive alternative to the age-old metal detector, making events both safer and more pleasant to attend. To its critics, however, Evolv’s effectiveness has hardly been proved. And it opens up a Pandora’s box of ethical issues in which convenience is paid for with RoboCop surveillance.
“The idea of a kinder, gentler metal detector is a nice solution in theory to these terrible shootings,” said Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst for the American Civil Liberties Union’s project on speech, privacy, and technology. “But do we really want to create more ways for security to invade our privacy? Do we want to turn every shopping mall or Little League game into an airport?”
Evolv machines use “active sensing” — a light-emission technique that also underpins radar and lidar — to create images. Then it applies AI to examine them. Data scientists at the Waltham, Mass., company have created “signatures” (basically, visual blueprints) and trained the AI to compare them to the scanner images.
Executives say the result is a smart system that can “spot” a weapon without anyone needing to stop and empty their pockets in a beeping machine. When the system identifies a suspicious item from a group of people flowing through, it draws an orange box around it on a live video feed of the person entering. It’s only then that a security guard, watching on a nearby tablet, will approach for more screening.
— Steven Zeitchik in AI may be searching you for guns the next time you go out in public
This does NOT make events safer.
Just ask the parents and families of those who died at the Astroworld concert. There were no guns used.
It’s just another ‘feel good’ attempt at ‘doing something’ that is really just a meaningless act of futility.
This does not make events safer.
It just shifts the attack to the crowd of people queued up to enter the event.
A crowd which, knowing they will be passing security to enter a “gun free zone”, will be known to the attacker to be 100% unarmed victims.
If this comes to fruition, I’m going to start carrying blaze-orange handgun ‘training forms’ everywhere I go.
I love wasting bureaucrats’ time!
I can’t remember who it was now but I think there was a YouTube personality that talked about being refused entry somewhere for have a keychain of an AR15.
Bingo Cliff H…Criminals can benefit by knowing people coming and going from establishments where such scanning devices are used will be unarmed. One of the first concerns a criminal has about their victim is whether the victim is armed or not.
Exactly. It is also an invitation to break into cars in the parking lot during the event, criminals looking for gunsleft in vehicles…
“It is also an invitation to break into cars in the parking lot during the event,…”
That’s a business opportunity for vehicle gun safe companies…
It’s not really about making society safer. That is merely the “justification driver” to develop advanced technology to find weapons among the social dissenters to support the coming One World experience.
The new agenda for humanity requires that no one will have the capacity to fight back. It has been said: “Our Task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” No other explanation is possible. There’s the WHY driving the Libturds’ fetish for gun control….control the guns to cointrol the people. Class dismissed.
The best way to attack back is to shun any venue installing such machines. In the pocketbook is the best way to get those folks’ attention.
For me, professional sports have no interest at all. The only professional sport I follow is sumo from Japan. No illegal searches as it is only carried on TV and I get closer to the ring than if I bought a ticket. I probably wouldn’t have enough cash on hand to buy a ringside ticket to one of the contests unless I sold my house.
You don’t see the sumo wrestlers prancing around like a chimpanzee when they win a match or throw something across the ring when they lose. It’s sports where the participants engage in sportsman like conduct. Any unsportsmanlike conduct is an immediate DQ resulting in the loss of the match. Loss of the match means that you don’t get the monetary reward for the winner of the match and it means one more loss on your record for the entire contest where losing more than half of your matches (8) out of 15 also means a demotion in rank which puts the really big bucks further out of reach.
sounds like something out of “Total Recall”….
That concert included the injecting of a security guard with some drug to incapacitate him.
The world is crazy and getting crazier all the time.
Can’t stop the signal.
Progress progresses.
One day, we will wake up to find COVID-19 pills that will “cure” COVID, and, simultaneously, result in a permanent transmitter lodged in you body so that government can determine whether you are “fully vaccinated”, or not.
And, if you are not “fully vaccinated”, you can neither buy, nor sell in the legal marketplace.
You’ll have a “social score”.
Your comment comes too late, my friend.
Someone was watching the CEO of Pfizer talk today.
What did he say?
That he wants microchips put into medications, specifically oral meds, to “ensure compliance”.
“American Civil Liberties Union’s project on speech, privacy“
Justice Alito says the constitution does not grant a right to privacy.
“Indeed, on pages 31-32 of his draft opinion, Alito vigorously criticizes prior Supreme Court precedent involving interracial marriage, the right to contraception, the right to engage in private, consensual sexual acts, the right to same-sex marriage, and other unenumerated rights. He states that “[n]one of these rights has any claim to being deeply rooted in history.” Alito harshly criticizes them as “appeals to a broader right to autonomy” and operating “at a high level of generality [which] could license fundamental rights to illicit drug use, prostitution, and the like.”
Alito’s draft opinion is a virtual how-to guide for this reactionary Supreme Court to overturn these precedents on gay rights, interracial marriage, contraception, and other rights not explicitly mentioned in the original Constitution or its amendments.”
https://prospect.org/justice/end-of-the-right-to-privacy-roe-v-wade/
Non sequitur. Editorial opinion written by far-leftist “entertainment attorney/business affairs executive, producer, political activist and writer.”
“Supreme Court’s Attack on Abortion Rights Opens Door for Vigilante Lawsuits Against the Unvaccinated”
“The Roberts Court Is Like Strom Thurmond in Judicial Robes”
“Stop Manchin and Sinema From Imitating Jim Crow Dixiecrats”
Of course it is FAR LEFT!
How can I troll without the extreme propaganda the America-hating left provides?
As I know you rubes do not digest enough state approved “non-disinformation” I use my incredible Cut and Paste skilz to bring enlightenment to your monotonous dull lives.
It is a Miner Marxist public service from your favorite God in heaven fearing, union hating, groomer extraordinaire….
Guys don’t give Minor a hard time. Duncian either. If they leave us; where will we get comic relief?
“If they leave us; where will we get comic relief?”
As someone reminded me of the other day, there’s always watching Hank Johnson ask a USN Admiral (with a straight face, no less!) if Guam will tip over if a few thousand US Marines are added :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q
This troglodyte is genuinely impressed with himself. he/she/trans/homo.
The best comedy comes from the far left, because they are the most insane. Just in the last decade alone – it’s amazing. Just watch Fleccas talks. Fleccas talks guys.
https://rumble.com/v15e677-this-week-in-culture-97.html
Miner – still a major. Moron.
I don’t care about any of that….neither do most people.
Miner49er,
Well, if there is one thing we can count on, it is people like you talking out of your @$$.
The United States Constitution clearly speaks to our right to privacy in the Fourth Amendment.
What the United States Constitution does NOT do is proclaim that women have a right to kill the baby in their womb.
The United States Constitution strongly implies the right to free association in the First Amendment. That would cover people who want to be “partners” in any possible sense of the word. If two men enjoy homo$exual $ex and each other’s company, they are free to form a partnership, live together, purchase property together, etc. under the U.S. Constitution. If two people want to engage in $ex acts for a fee, they are free to do that as well under the U.S. Constitution. While those arrangements are not good for the individuals involved or society at large, they are nevertheless permissible under the U.S. Constitution.
@uncommon,
I would add…our form of government is only good for a “wholly moral people”. You are correct that people are (should be) free to largely do as they please with their lives, certain attitudes and actions serve as a glue that holds a healthy society together, while others serve to tear it apart.
Yep. I do love the idea of America. That’s about all it is nowadays, an idea from the past. Sad.
“I would add…our form of government is only good for a “wholly moral people”.”
And that’s *why* they are working so hard selling the LIE that America has ‘racism’ baked-into its founding, and the Constitution.
It makes their job far easier selling the next lie that what they have to replace will be “anti-racist” and “equitable”.
…except it isn’t… 🙁
“Yep. I do love the idea of America. That’s about all it is nowadays, an idea from the past. Sad.”
So, you’re just going to hand it all over to them, billy bob’?
Just sit there crying in your beer pissing-and-moaning about how nice it was, and not FIGHT TO KEEP IT? 🙁
…our form of government is only good for a “wholly moral people”
Are you suggesting that we move to another form of government?
“And that’s *why* they are working so hard selling the LIE that America has ‘racism’ baked-into its founding, and the Constitution.“
Are you unaware of the fact that the immoral institution of slavery is enshrined within the constitution, including the arbitrary valuation of black Americans as 3/5 of an actual human?
The actual, handwritten founding documents of the United States of America codified the completely immoral practice of forced servitude and brought the force of law to the racist concept of Subhumans.
And these immoral constitutional provisions were upheld by the highest court in the land for decades, poisoning American society:
“In 1857 the United States Supreme Court in the decision Dred Scott v. Sandford ruled that all blacks, whether free or enslaved, lacked the rights to citizenship and thus could not sue in federal court.“
The fact is, “America has ‘racism’ baked-into its founding“.
To deny that historical reality is another sad evidence of the disinformation and outright lies spread by the right wing extremists in their attempt to crush America’s constitutional republic.
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/slavery-united-states?ms=googlegrant&ms=googlegrant&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkKmy_dv19wIVTT6tBh3cPgyPEAAYASAAEgJZlfD_BwE
Geoff,
I take this statement as a pretty good comment about how things are today. “Yep. I do love the idea of America. That’s about all it is nowadays, an idea from the past. Sad.”
Your comment: “So, you’re just going to hand it all over to them, billy bob’? Just sit there crying in your beer pissing-and-moaning about how nice it was, and not FIGHT TO KEEP IT?”
makes an assumption of what BillyBob’s mindset is.
With the present administration and their control of both house and senate, and all the RINOs willing to “go along to get along”, things are rapidly going downhill.
My thought is, the fight is coming. Don’t know when nor what will trigger it but it will arrive. The “left” has been agitation for a violent revolution since the 1960s and BO voiced it before his first POTUS election. It is what they want so I have little doubt it will happen.
My problem with revolutions and “civil wars” is, the final outcome is unpredictable. Lots of people say “bring it on”. One outcome I will predict: it will destroy America.
Semper FI
Did I mention I am a proud card carrying Marxist?
That I hate America, and seek to use the tenets of Marxism to undermine the political order?
Believe in me Miner49er, that the fact is, “American ‘racism’ is baked-into it“.
@Miner.
Yeah. People in the 1700s were racists. The real question is, when are you going to f***ing get over it????
Dangling it over everyone’s faces has grown tiresome, and it isn’t going to get you any further free gibs. Laws today apply to both blacks and whites. So get over it. It is pathetic and sad that you are still whining about this shit.
prostitution has been around forever…laws or no laws….
Uhm, don’t you mean a “Private business service transaction’?
Not prohibited by the constitution. However th 10th means that since they aren’t explicitly enumerated they are reserved to the states and the people. Aka: states will legislate legality of them.
Coming from you can only assume out of context and irrelevant to the discussion.
Justice Alito is 100% correct. There is no constitutional right to privacy. There is however a process for amending the Constitution that can be utilized at any point and if the legislatures want there to be a right to privacy in the Constitution they should simply amend the Constitution. They could also do the exact same thing to enshrine the right to an abortion but they have chosen not to do so. Even when the Democrats had supermajorities and could pass anything they ever wanted they didn’t even bothered to pass a federal law guaranteeing the right to an abortion. As I’ve always said, what can be given through a Judicial decree can be taken away by a Judicial decree. We have a representative Republic with a legislative process for a reason.
Weren’t you the same guy who could not even read the article about the guy who got shot picking his son up? Then started spouting off about what happened and it completely contradicted what actually happened?
Sadly that is typical of most Police though.
You will have to prompt my memory about what you are talking about if your comment is directed at me because I am clueless.
Alito is correct. The vast majority of what the feds do is unconstitutional. Anyone remember enumerated powers ?
And the completely disrespected 10th Amendment!
The constitution doesn’t *grant* any rights; it protects preexisting rights. The 4th amendment specifically mentions areas of privacy that it protects.
If you read that draft decision, rather than relying on the habitual liars at CNN, you would know that it says abortion is not just a “privacy” issue, because the fetus is a person with rights. It then clarifies that it would not apply to the cases you mention, because those don’t involve one person harming another. But nice try. Maybe you could get a job at the disinformation bureau, when they revive after losing the election.
The Constitution, Bill of Rights and amendments are about limiting the scope, control and authority of the government, limiting government.
Something I’ve noticed about the left and right ends of the political spectrum: They disagree on issues (e.g. abortion, gay rights, gun control, etc.) but they share the conviction that they are morally entitled (actually obligated) to use the power of the state to impose their personal agenda on everyone else. Neither side has any respect for the private individual’s personal liberty. As far as they are concerned, the Bill of Rights should be condensed into the the sentence, “You have the right to shut up and do as we tell you.”
Chris In KT or KY whatever it is, that is his particular MO.
People don’t think freedom be how it is. It’s a dangerous place most people are not equipt to deal with.
“…to use the power of the state to impose their personal agenda on everyone else…”
Nailed it.
Boom goes the dynamite.
See my namesake for details.
“See my namesake for details.”
You mean this? :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Galz2ZDJYTg
would gay marriage have survived a national plebiscite?…probably not…
The only thing George Orwell got wrong was the date.
“Stop and frisk” is sooooo 1990.
“The dog hit on something” is soooooo 2010.
“The AI scan hit on something” is the new, kinder, gentler way to abuse citizens.
And of course partisan factions with zero convictions will flip, flop and hem and haw to justify why they support a thing they shouldn’t or don’t support a thing they should.
What’s the point?
Constitutional carry FTW
Gun =\= Bad
If you consent to the search, then it is legal. It violates your 4th Amendment right if you do not.
If you don’t consent, you won’t be let in. Simple as that.
No problem. I hate crowds and target rich environments. Gun free zones are just murder enablers.
jwm:
Me too.
So extortion.
That’s easy to work around, unfortunately. They include a line in the Terms Of Service document that gives them your permission. Have you ever read one of those things? 47 or 15 or 92 pages of legalese. Boilerplate. Your act of buying the event ticket, entering their premises, etc., also is your expressed approval of every word in that document. If you disagree with any of those Terms, your best recourse is to not participate. The weasels got you by the short hairs.
Hrm. Something, something… employment contracts.
It’s almost like they’ve thought of ways to use freedom to destroy freedom and free markets to destroy free markets.
Just like the small print ‘consent’ you give to track you with your ‘smart’ phone agreement.
Umm, the 4th Amendment applies only to governmental searches. Searches by private actors are outside its protections.
Let me guess: this system directs Terahertz frequency radio energy at people (which sails right through clothing and reflects off of metal objects like firearms) and the Artificial Intelligence compares the reflection images to known images of firearms.
Of course the manufacturer will not publicly talk about the fact that their system uses Terahertz radio waves because that will freak out people who are worried about radiation. And yet the company is not worried about freaking out people over the invasion of privacy.
And the Beast & the False Prophet nod their horns in agreement…forget Orwell. This was predicted 1950 years ago.
But will it detect monkey-pox?? Seems like the latest rage!
No, it will not detect vericella (chicken-pox, monkey-pox) but those high-frequency waves could be used to detect graphine oxide.
Have you gotten your clot-shot?
No?
Well step right over here….
I’m noticing an increase in scary virus coverage right before the big World Health Organization shindig.
Dude,
And dribble-mouth-Biden threatening to sign the treaty that would give the WHO (not the rock band) sovereignty over our national health policy and practices.
I do not use invectives often, but carefully placed and judiciously used, they are most effective. This sh#t has got to be stopped.
LifeSavor, you must feel strongly about this! (where’s the shocked face emoji when you need it?)
LifeSaver is 100% correct. They can do what they want in Washington but don’t pretend the rest of us in ‘fly-over’ country are going along with it.
Wonder about the effect on a pacemaker or even an expensive hearing aid ?
There are already countermeasures available. Like Facial Rec – some makers of masks and gaiters printed fragments of facial features into the pattern on them which would deliberately trigger the system and then confuse it when trying to assemble the necessary points into a pattern. Two noses or the computer rendition of a medium chimp don’t compute well.
It’s entirely the reason bank thieves originally wore panty hose – to screw up the normal video/photography by altering facial features even before it was a technology. Imagine a quality silicone mask today – a bit of dark tanning spray and a mask, I might pass for Obama’s older cousin Barkosa. I’m just not good in heels.
So, some will carry a gun shaped reflector sewed into the lining and the number of false signals will ratchet up the signal tolerance to an unacceptable level. Just like airports – bombs get past TSA all the time, I don’t know of one test a facility has ever passed. Once this tech gets out there will be workarounds that some will use just to cheat or defeat the system. Like spitwads in study hall, the challenge is not getting caught.
The Shot Locator system in downtowns sold very well, highly profitable, heralded by all sorts of public control freaks looking to stop gun violence, the reality is that when municipalities can speak honestly about it – major fail. And that track record of this kind of tech means a new “gun recognition” system is at best going to be 50% successful out of the gate.
If we were to discuss police control equipment as being highly speculative in it’s assessment that might rank pretty well in terms of dollars expended – the number of officers who self inflicted leg wounds with a highly popular foreign firearm certainly offsets it’s benefits. And departments can get with with safeties if they would just do it. Most world armies do – except maybe Austria.
Approaching that suspicious guy that probably maybe has a gun is dangerous. That’s why we need RoboCop. Or Terminator.
Get scores of people who are going through to carry something that will trigger the device, but is not a firearm. Do this enough times to regularly clog the entrance and they may rethink their decision.
Excellent idea. Kudos!
System already in use at Dollywood and every Six Flags park
“We went from 30 metal-detector lines to four lanes, and we’re not stopping people for every cellphone or house key,” said Jason Freeman, Six Flags’ vice president of security, safety, health and environmental. He said overall stops have gone from 32 percent to 15 percent, with the great majority still not considered threats. The idea is not just to catch more weapons; it’s to waste less time on everything else.“
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/20/evolv-metal-detectors-gun-detection/
My very first job as a teenager in the ’80s was at Six Flags. Back then there was only a turnstile at the entrance. No detectors, no security looming over the crowds, no cameras at every corner. No violence.
I haven’t been there in almost 20 years. The last time it was like entering a TSA checkpoint.
Filled with useless over paid affirmative action morons?
Six Flags. That reminds me of my HS senior skip day in the ’80s.
We snuck around 50 bottles of dish soap into SF (Jackson, NJ) and dumped them all in the massive fountain inside the park entrance. The foam mountain was around 20ft high after a few minutes.
Ghost, it shouldn’t take much of an effort, really.
** But IPVM, a security-industry trade publication, concluded after a review that Evolv has “fundamental technological limitations in differentiating benign objects from actual weapons.” One issue, IPVM said, citing its examination of the company, is that some metallic objects confuse the AI, including particularly the ruggedly designed Google Chromebook. **
Live in places that support it, vote for people that support it and be vocal about supporting it and get what ya get.
Meanwhile in free America….
Good argument for open carry.
Yes it is!!!
American citizens have the right to spy on each other. The government does not. They have to get a warrant. And you don’t. That is the law. It has always been that way. And it’s the way it should be.
The “genie” is not going back into the bottle. We will always have atomic bombs and the ability and knowledge to make them. If not us then someone else will, because we gave the world the knowledge.
We will always have the knowledge of gunpowder because of the chinese. And the ability to make as much as we want. And the Firearms to go with it.
All technology wherever it is apply can have negative consequences. It’s up to the individual and the larger society, to have the morality necessary, to use technology in a positive way.
And a positive way may mean killing a person intent on evil.
This type of ‘scanning’ was around for several years and was first developed by an Israeli company, I believe–maybe the same one that brought you the main facial recognition technology that everyone is starting to use now?
It was called FADD back then. ‘Frisk At Distance Device’. I seem to remember seeing it maybe 10 years back at some trade show in a discreet booth, maybe the Shot Show. It could display on a monitor screen and was presented as an option in a Police Patrol Car to check for guns and other weapons who were walking down the streets while cruising without even getting out of the squad car. The principle feature was the clear picture it provided of a pistol or knife under the clothing and being shown to the level of identifying exactly what the make of the pistol was, including images of how many rounds in it! The effective scanning range wasn’t that far. Maybe fifty or sixty feet, I recall, however that would improve as time and devolopment continued. It would even be able to eventually detect non-metallic anomalies under a person’s clothing like drugs! OCD privacy rights intruders were having dry orgasms at the prospect. It was prototyped and demonstrated some remarkable performance. The imagry resembled a cross between FLIR and an Xray, and very detailed resolution.
Lots of Police State departments were interested except for two fundamentals which seemed to put the Kabosh on it at the time. First it was way too expensive for the average police agency and secondly, it was a blatant violation of the 4th/A with personal searches. Even in a public setting you cannot just randomly and arbitrarily search a person who is doing nothing wrong.
Of course, in a Marxist Authoritarian State, only ‘cost’ of such equipment might only be a temporary operational deterrent. Today, due to a combination of Moore’s Law technology advancement, increased government funding for direct Rights Violation application under the insidiously specious notion of Crime Prevention and Public Safety, and frighteningly improved A.I. you have a voracious appetite by the power-hungry for this kind of privacy invasive technology that cannot be satiated in an Agenda driven dystopia that cannot be stopped.
It is only natural–in Unnatural flawed humanity–that Tyrants require and demand this control over every part of your life, behavior, and mind.
And it has now just crossed the threshold of ‘No Return’.
The only recourse–or ‘Salvation’ for you religionists–is coming in 5 months and days counting down when still have one chance to to save our liberties in the November elections.
Well, Australia just went even further left in yesterday’s election, so while I have hope for us, other countries are going to go to hell faster.
so…”stop and frisk” without the stop and frisk?
quote—————– Even in a public setting you cannot just randomly and arbitrarily search a person who is doing nothing wrong.———-quote
Wrong the Constitution means nothing and never has meant anything. Our slave masters will use the new technology anyway and the corrupt courts will say that it is for the publics safety and in a way it is. After all the Far Right brought all this on themselves by refusing to pass laws preventing nut cases and criminals from buying tons of second hand guns with no paper work.
Over 10 years ago the cops had a camera that looks inside homes as they drive by and shows everything inside the home. Is it illegal search? Of course it is but they do it anyway and erase it unless they find something and then they get a court order after the fact.
The government has a computer system called “Carnivore” that flags key words that threaten government officials and alerts big brother who made the threats or disparaging remarks. So much for the right to privacy while on line or sending private e-mails.
When the Far Right think that their closet AR 15’s will someday overthrow the government they are only living in a fantasy world. Big Brother is watching you and monitoring you 24/7. Big Brother knows what you buy and when and Big Brother can track you every minute of the day both at home and on the go. You are photographed hundreds of times a day by private, public and law enforcement cameras. You are no more free that a canary in a cage.
If you ever went to a gun show your drivers license plate is recorded and on record showing you probably own weapons.
If you log on to forums like this the government has you on its radar.
Ditto if you ever bought ammo or guns on a credit card or subscribed to a gun magazine.
I remember people laughing years ago when it was predicted we would go to a cashless society, we are only a half step away from that today.
Here you are again. Raging against the .gov. But you want nothing less than to give them the power to disarm us. Your mental illness does not allow you to see how foolish you sound.
He’ll change his mind once the Republicans are in charge again.
“they drive by and shows everything inside the home. Is it illegal search? Of course it is“
You have no constitutional right to privacy, anyone who stands on a public space may receive whatever signals you emit with impunity.
If you don’t want to be seen by a thermal imaging sensor, stop radiating in the infrared band.
Right. As pushed by Democrats. Democrats are all about safety.
Hey! Stop talking about my family. They are NOT criminals or nut cases.
LOL! Dacian goes full libertarian, doesn’t realize his party brought him here. Still advocates for policy that empowers the gov, and disarms himself. It would be really sad, if I could stop laughing.
“American citizens have the right to spy on each other. The government does not. They have to get a warrant. And you don’t. That is the law. It has always been that way. And it’s the way it should be.“
Interesting position.
So a private citizen could wiretap your phone, and sell the information to any and all government agencies who were interested in the content.
No pesky warrant needed!
I smell a profit opportunity, capitalism at work!
I also smell burnt feet.
Why do I always smell burnt feet?
Miners feet are not burning.
Yet? What? Sky daddy.
Because if they had known that the Buffalo shooter had a firearm on him?
From Miner49er’s helpful link to the Washington Post version:
“Dan Donovan, a veteran security consultant who rents Evolv’s systems out to clients for events … Like other consultants, he notes no system probably would have stopped the Buffalo shooter, who began firing in the parking lot.”
that guy started shooting in the parking lot…by the time he got into the store his intentions were known….they even had an armed security guard…all to no avail…
The issue with the Buffalo shooter was not whethe HE had a gun on him.The issue was that NO ONE ELSE DID AND HE KNEW IT.
Fix that issue, and Buffalo shooters will go the way of the buffalo. Extinct.
I guess a good bet that Buffalo gangbangers don’t shop at grocery stores.
“The issue was that NO ONE ELSE DID AND HE KNEW IT“
Incorrect, because of his previous recon he knew the security guard was indeed armed.
Shooter prepared by wearing body armor and being armed with a weapon capable of defeating the security guard’s body armor.
The shooter knew that a modern sporting rifle could easily defeat body armor at the ranges involved and he knew that he could legally purchase a modern sporting rifle at age 18.
He knew that with surprise, body armor and a modern sporting rifle he would have the tactical advantage on any number of armed guards or civilians he might encounter.
He knew and was also concerned about individuals with firearms.
However, because he lived in New York with its extreme gun control, he felt better about them likely being unarmed.
quote————Fix that issue, and Buffalo shooters will go the way of the buffalo. Extinct.——-quote
A childish statement.
I might also add if their had been 50 people armed with handguns none of them would have been able to stop the Buffalo shooter who had armor on and a high power rifle.
“I might also add if their had been 50 people armed with handguns none of them would have been able to stop the Buffalo shooter…”
A childish statement.
Yeah, I disagree with that.
WHY NOT, GO FOR IT , GIVE SOME ONE A JOB , START WITH SCHOOLS FIRST , MALLS , WAL MART .
MORE ARMED GUARDS NEEDED ALSO .
FRIGN CRAZY SH..T FACE SHOOTERS RUIN IT ALL FOR LAW~BIDDING .
the deployment of such a device would certainly amount to an unconstitutional search without a warrant or probable cause.
The problem with this kind of thing isn’t, IMHO, the use by private entities such as an NFL stadium.
It the use by government in public areas which will happen under guise of “public safety” or will simply go on unspoken about until someone uncovers what these people are doing.
And, just like some of their past, uh, indiscretions, they’ll pay to put the device on a private building pointed at a public space and then claim it’s all nice and legal because the private entity is doing the job for them as a “contractor” and they’re just “buying the data”. Same thing you see with cell phone data. Purchased from the “owner” with no need for a warrant, subpoena or probable cause.
More and more we go with the CCP strategy on everything; Hoover up aLl thE dAtaZ and comb through it to see what we find.
With the brain being bombarded with so many electros no wonder we’re nuts.
I truly hope your brain is not being bombarded by electrons, I’m not sure that would be very good for you.
On the other hand, you are being bombarded by photons at various frequencies, in addition to charged particles from the sun and other cosmic sources.
Good thing for you, Miner, that you don’t have that problem.
You are correct, thanks to my moo-metal Friday-cage, my cranium is well shielded.
Guarding an empty henhouse.
It is NOT EMPTY!
And I LOVE henhouses and more to the point, “love” the chickens inside.
Some people think it’s weird, but my chickens love Miner right back.
And Miner is no sexist… Roosters too!
Oh boy!!
Is this just sensing patterns in clothing or is it x-raying to the materials underneath?
Another odd ball idea without merit, unworthy of the smallest grain of either faith or trust.
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