The Remington Custom Shop is Now Offering Custom 700’s Chambered in Hornady’s New 300 PRC

1. But it needs to be in 6.5CM…………….

   • hornady precision rifle creedmore.

     • Hornady Precision Rifle Creedmoremoor.

       I can’t wait for the Creedmostmoor family to be announced.

   • PRC?

     People’s Republic of China?

2. A lot of options for the lipstick on your pig.

3. I think I’ll hold out for a .30TC. It’s the fairy godmother of all Creedmoors.

4. The 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC are great cartridges. The cartridge and chamber were designed at the same time and saami spec to shoot the longer bullets best. The 6.5 PRC has the perfect chamber and freebore to shoot factory 143 and 147 eld bullets. The 300 PRC has a precision hunter and match cartridge that were specifically designed to shoot well at very long ranges…right out of the box. PRC stands for precision rifle cartridge. These two cartridges are modern state of the art designs using the best high BC bullets and the latest powder.
   Some people hate to see advancements in firearms, but drive a modern computer controlled, fuel injected engine, with sensors for everything, on their cars and trucks.

   • I just don’t see much use in the 6.5PRC yet. Not enough gain over the 260Rem and the biggest problem is the lack of quality brass. The stuff Hornady is pushing out right now on the 6.5PRC just doesn’t cut it.

   • Right with you, I just bought a 6.5 PRC in a Christensen Arms Mesa unbelievable accuracy hole through hole if I can hold it steady, I have a 30 Nosler that is better than any other 30 cal I’ve owned, The 300 PRC has my attention and I’m waiting for Christensen Arms to catch up on stock so I can own one. Haters are going to hate, They don’t get it, they keep comparing it to the 30 cals with higher muzzle velocity that are fast out of the gate and very nice shooters, The PRC’s hold their energy at longer distances, My 6.5 PRC loves 57gr R26 140 SST pushing it 2959 and 143 eld-x pushing it 2937 Excellent results with the 143 ELD-X with 56.5grs imr7828SSC pushing it 2949. I bashed trucks with heated seats when they came out and then I bought one that had them, won’t buy a car or truck without them now, I don’t bash things that I have never experienced myself anymore.

5. Meh.
   Now, with they make me a custom XP-100? That will get my attention.

6. Not another proprietary custom cartridge. What is 300PRC comparable to and what does it do the existing .30 cal cartridges don’t?

   We have the following list which covers every performance profile:

   7.62×39
   300 Blackout
   308 Winchester
   30-06
   300 Winchester Magnum
   300 Norma Magnum
   30-378 Weatherby

   I deliberately excluded some cartridges from the list.

   • Or is it the 300 RUM re-badged?

   • It does a lot. If all you are looking for is bullet weight and speed, then no, there are other cartridges that equal it, although you can rule out all but one of them on your list.
     (225gr ELD at 2800fps+ standard)
     But there is a lot more to cartridge design than that. Feeding considerations, barrel life, target pressure and powder, seating depth, COAL, OAL, etc. Whereas I see little space for the 6.5PRC, there is a lot more room for the 300PRC.

7. I heard that the ATF is going to reclassify the 6.5 Creedmore as a Destructive Device. Classified video shows a 6.5 blowing the turret off of the Abrams tank.

   • And taking out a battleship. One shot

8. So let me get this straight… well over 100 years after the development of smokeless powder, Hornady finally figured out how to design a cartridge/bullet combo that is demonstrably more accurate than the boatload of .30 caliber cartridges that have already been developed?

   What do we know today that we didn’t know 100 years ago?

   • A lot. A whole lot.
     The proof is in the pudding. Even 50 years ago a lightweight rifle suited for field use that shot consistently under 1 minute of angle with factory ammunition was a laudable feat. Now, it’s standard even in budget guns.
     We learned. We’re learning. Innovation is good.

     • This is demonstrably true about bullet construction, propellants, barrel construction, etc., but is it true about case design? Take for instance Hornady’s .30TC – it was supposed to put that extra hundred fps from the .30-06 into a .308 length cartridge but then they turned around and made the ‘Superformance’ .308 rounds that did the exact same thing without the new case. From what I can see it looks like IF there’s a performance advantage of newly designed cases it’s irrelevant to anyone who’s not quibbling about a quarter inch here or there at 1000 yards. In which case what they’re selling is useless hype that virtually no one will actually benefit from.

       • Yes, it’s also true of case design. Again, it’s not just about bullet weight and speed. It’s also about COAL, OAL, feeding issues, how the case sits in bolt, how it headspaces, how a Very Low Drag bullet sits into the case, and other factors as well.
         If all you look at is weight and speed, there is nothing new under the sun. But if you want to take into all of the other considerations, and 1/16MOA really does mean something to you, then all of those little details add up to how the round chambers, fires, and flies consistently. And we are constantly chasing consistency.

       • ‘…and 1/16MOA really does mean something to you…’

         Hence the qualifier ‘virtually nobody’ would benefit. It seems like there’s an awful lot of new cartridges that cater to the handful of people who are dead serious about 1000 yard + competitive shooting. Pretty soon the cartridges are going to outnumber the shooters. For the rest of us, even those who have access to a 1000 yard range the advantages are pretty much useless, and there’s going to be a lot of suckers who can’t find a mmo for the latest .30TC.

   • The bullets for extreme long distance shooting today have form factors that we didn’t have 100 years ago. Specifically, they’re very long for their mass.

     Well, with the current chamberings out there, you have two choices how to load these new bullets into a case:

     1. You seat the bullet deep into the case neck, so the bullet isn’t touching the lands…
     2. You have to ream the chamber to relieve the throat, so as to make more room for the high-Bc bullet.

     These new cases/chambers are set up so that you can load them with the very low drag bullets that would otherwise need a deep seating in the case, or a throat reaming in the pre-existing cartridge specs.

     • Just a simple uneducated observation, simply shortening the case so you can use longer bullets in a given action doesn’t actually gain anything because you shrink the case capacity just as much as you would by seating the bullet deeper. For instance the 6.5 Creedmoor has less case capacity than a .260 Rem even after they cut the taper at the shoulder in half. Unless you’re making the cases fatter, it seems it would make more sense to just go with a .264 Win mag or I’m sure there’s got to be a 6.5-06 wildcat out there.

       • There’s every wildcat of the .30-06 under the sun. But they are long actions and the 6 and 6.5 versions eat up barrels.

       • jwt, there’s a simple fact of physics that if you want to shoot long distance you need a long bullet launched at a high velocity, and the longer the bullet and the higher velocity the more recoil. So we scale back from .30 caliber bullets to 6.5mm ones to tame the recoil, but now that’s not good enough so we ramp up the velocity and burn up the barrels. Bottom line is that shooting accurately at 1000 yards is going to be more expensive than shooting at 100. I can’t see how a 6.5mm-06 would burn up the barrel any more than a 6.5PRC.

       • Because you don’t actually have to ramp up the velocity. If you design a cartridge for heavy, vld bullets, you don’t have to push them as fast to maintain velocity at distance, at least relative to traditional bullet shapes. That means longer barrel life.
         Plus, you get the real benefit, which is less windage.

       • Well yes, if you’re comparing lighter faster vs. heavier slower. But in the case of the 6.5 PRC you’ve got the same bullet that Hornady puts in the 6.5 Creedmoor (147gr. ELD match) only at a couple hundred more fps. The PRC is going to have more recoil, less drop and windage, and shorter barrel life.

       • Gov, that’s one of the reasons why I don’t see a particular space for the 6.5 PRC, but I do for the 30. But also note, you just compared two modern cartridges, not a legacy cartridge like the 3006, or its Wildcats.
         The starting goal of these new cartridges is to be able to shoot those heavier bullets in a shorter action.

       • Hmm.. a little game of follow the Wikipedia links reveals that the 6.5 Creedmoor was derived from the .30TC which was derived from the .308 Winch ester which was derived from the .300 Savage which was derived from the .250 Savage which was developed in 1915. Seems more evolutionary than revolutionary. 6.5 and .300 PRCs don’t have Wikipedia pages yet.

         I’d agree on the .300, but now you’ve got the recoil to contend with. As Milton Friedman used to say, ‘there is no such thing as a free lunch.’

9. Unless you’re going to be loading the heavy (> 200gr) .30 pills long, there’s not much point to the .300 PRC. There’s a half-dozen magnum cartridges out there that will hurl 150 to 190gr .30 cal pills downrange.

   That said, for those who want to push the heaviest, longest VLD pills downrange now, there is now one more bottle you can use to do it.

   • That’s the long (ha!) and short of it. The case is designed for the 225gr VLD bullets. It will always have a narrow market, but it’s success really depends on if Hornady will produce quality brass for it.
     Of course, I thought the 300 Norma Mag would have a narrow market, and it’s just getting bigger and bigger.

10. Nope, nope, nope, and nope.

11. And the beauty of it all is if you don’t like it don’t buy it. Everyone has different needs,wants and appreciations when it comes to cartridge performance. Performance isn’t just simply how fast a certain cartridge burps a ballet out the end of a barrel. Some folks appreciate intelligent case design and efficiency. I see the merit in the cartridge. Some people like big block Chevy trucks with 40” tires. Other’s see it as overcompensating. It’s America and the consumer will have the last word.

    • Well said, very accurate, There must be a love for the 300prc because I’m trying to find one online in a Christensen Arms Mesa all of the Christensen Arms 300 PRC rifles are back ordered.

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