Our quote of the day featured the #ImUnloading campaign, proponents of civilian disarmament – including a convicted felon named Snoop Dogg Lion – encouraging Americans to divest their portfolios of stocks of companies engaged in the firearms or gun-related trades. Not to coin a phrase, but F that. These companies defend and extend Americans’ natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms. God bless ’em! Anyway . . .
to counter the anti-gun agitprop, please send us pictures of yourself loading your gun(s). Email them to [email protected] – please put IMLOADING in the subject line – and we’ll post them here and on our Facebook page. Because an unloaded gun is just a paperweight.
In b4 a thousand pictures of HK mags with backwards bullets.
Why not just hijack the hashtag and show pictures of people unloading their guns via the trigger?
https://twitter.com/tyrusasmith/status/575682982964523008
Anyone know of a firearms biased ETF?
An ammo-based ETF is actually a brilliant idea. The ETF custodian would have warehouses full of physical ammunition, and a share of the ETF would be worth a set number of cartridges. The shareholder could sell the share on the open market for cash, or call in the contract and get the physical ammunition underlying the share. Then, as a shareholder you would just need to anticipate the next boneheaded gun control attempt by government fascists, and you’d make mad bank!
The ATFE involvement would make it impossible..
The ETF could be the underlying for a futures contract; and, of course, options on futures.
Personally, I’m kind of old-fashioned on the settle by delivery vs. settle to cash. I think the contract ought to settle by delivery.
Fortunately, it would be easy to set the delivery standards because of military specs and SAMI.
Now, then, furthermore, it would be exceedingly difficult for the ATF to ban the deliverable grade of ammo without having to deal with the CFTC. We could have contracts calling for delivery as many as 2 decades into the future. Not until the last open contract “went off the board” could the ATF make the deliverable grade illegal without getting the CFTC and the exchange involved.
If TSHTF, how are you going to get to the custodial warehouse?
And the warehouse make a very tempting target for thieves who can access semi-tractor trailer rigs and pallet-jacks and other materiel handling whatnot.
If TSHTF, how are you going to get to the custodial warehouse?
And the warehouse make a very tempting target for thieves who can access semi-tractor trailer rigs and pallet-jacks and other materiel handling things.
Geoff, sorry to say this, but you don’t “get it” with futures contracts. It’s a bit hard to grasp (took be several months; but, after 40 years in the industry, I do understand how futures work.)
The supply of deliverable commodities that are in deliverable position is NOT a very important factor. The supply of deliverable commodities that could be gotten to a delivery point is more important.
Ammo manufacturers who had a “well regulated” (18th century sense) futures market could look at the prices for years into the future and decide whether they are high enough to justify the capital investment in more equipment. If so, they order new equipment and sell a significant fraction of their new planned production in the futures market. By so doing, they lock in their profit margin on enough of their production to make the investment worth the risk. That’s the basic idea. You could elaborate with futures contracts on brass, smokeless powder and primers.
Ammo users could look at futures prices long into the future and decide to lock-in the cost of supply. If they are afraid prices will rise they buy futures contracts to hedge against that contingency. That drives futures prices up higher, inviting manufacturers to tool-up to meed apparent future demand.
The movement of ammo would not change much. Manufacturer to distributer to LGS to consumer.
The interesting thing about all of the foregoing is that a futures contract would introduce a novel barrier to the ATF banning ammo of the deliverable grade. To illustrate, imagine if there were a futures market in ammo where the deliverable grade were M855. Further, imagine that there were open contracts in various months running 10 or 20 years into the future. Now comes ATF proposing to ban M855. A new argument would come along. The listing exchange and the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) on behalf of all buyers and sellers of open futures contracts would intervene and complain that such a proposed ATF ban would disrupt the contractual obligations and entitlements of the contracting parties. They would ask that the ATF defer the implementation of the proposed ban for 10 or 20 years until the last contract matures.
I would not claim that open futures contracts would be dispositive in limiting the ATF’s actions; merely that it would be another barrier.
If there were a futures market in ammo (tough proposition to float) there would be a benefit to the manufacturer and user community in making open and publicly available pricing information reflecting opinions on the course of price movements.
I’m not sure if there are any. I think most gun manufacturers are private companies, not traded publicly.
There are 3 major aerospace and defense ETFs, which you can see here:
http://www.etf.com/Equity_U_S_Aerospace_Defense
More people who don’t understand second and third order effects! Yes, lets divest from private companies that are supporting the police and military through civilian sales. If I were to deploy right now I would be bringing my personal PMAGs that hold 30 rounds. I train with an AR that is similar to my issued M4. If I lived in a constitution free state then I would be forced to use GI mags and a neutered (or no AR) AR 15s. These idiots don’t understand that weapons development is not a 100% government function anymore and there are a lot of weapons that made life easier in the sand box. They would not have existed without civilians weapons development over the past ten years.
Personally, I like this “I’m unloading” thing. Hell, I try to unload once a month( more if I can afford it), and in as many calibers as possible!
Photo Sent 🙂
I have an awesome shot of my grandsons, ages 3 and 9, seating bullets with my single stage press (under very close supervision). I’ll never post it publicly but it would surely make some hoplophobic heads explode.
Aw c’mon. You know you want to.
I hate to be sexist; but, traditionally, rolling cartridges was work assigned to young girls.
That’s not sexist if you’re talking about a reality of the past.
Saying “ralling cartridges should be for young girls” is.
You don’t have to tip toe around everything.
Pixelate their cute faces…
Why #Loading? why not #ImLoading?
Good point! Text and headline and Facebook gallery amended.
Whoa. I though you were asking for #ImLoaded photos. Which would mean about six martinis for yours truly.
Is this yours?
https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11037826_842482502485845_7880953722987681016_n.jpg?oh=2189bc33c1c23fa9f0cce64c6eca47e5&oe=558DCF1D
No, it’s mine. Like it?
I like that you keep the bottle in the freezer. Try Svedka. As good as Absolute but less expensive.
Was that a single shot muzzle loader?
Only take 2 for me…
(Back then I made all drinks 1l – 32 oz.)
Trying to figure in a “Dry or Extra Dry” pun with reloading, but…
# Im unloading on the great white throne.
Post of pic of that bad boy!
I use two hands to load. I don’t think I can operate the camera simultaneously…unless I assume my ultimate form.
We should have just stole the hashtag with videos of us shooting
I will not be loading anything that will be posted to Facebook. Remember Facebook is not a friend to the 2A.
I’ll take some this weekend. May even have a little Class 3 goodness to throw in.
Is this a contest?
See, I would never even know about a lot of these lame-ass anti-2A campaigns if it wasn’t for TTAG. I mean, seriously, most folks with a job don’t have the time to keep up with the things that douche bags like “snoop dog” say or do.
Are there any IRA specifically around the Firearms Industry so that I can maybe roll mine over?
I’m Loaded.
I was going to send a pic of me loading… something with my Joe Buck Sucks shirt on, but I surmised that the anti-rights crowd would perceive that as a threat to a shitty sports announcer who probably doesn’t need any more threats. (Philly, see D-cells).
He is horrible. The worst thing about Fox was Joe Buck and Tim McCarver doing baseball broadcasts. The best thing about baseball on Fox is now McCarver is retired. Gumby…I mean Judge Smails…I mean Joe Buck needs to go too.
Divesting from entities that make and/or distribute weapons would mean getting rid of all government bonds.
Corp U.S.A. in all its entities is the largest weapons proliferator on the planet . . . yet no one talks about this. Any gov. official who advocates some type of arms control is instantly a hypocrite as it makes googa cash in arms sales. Uncle Sam is hairline deep in making, selling, and giving weapons away.
What about investing in stocks of these companies? Snoop said to ditch em so I bought some. I figure that’s more for me!
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