High school stocks classrooms with ‘safety bucket’ in case of active shooter
At least that Pennsylvania gave each classroom a bucket of rocks to throw at a shooter . . .
Heidi Hummel and her classmates are gearing up for their senior year at Clio High School.
In this day and age, in light of all the school shootings, back-to-school prep has taken a more somber tone. This year at Clio, every classroom will have what’s called a “safety bucket.”
“We are unloading them and using them in the event of a lockdown situation. We’re also going to use them as food and supplies if we were ever locked down for a long time,” Hummel said.
The buckets will go into every classroom in the district.
Assistant Principal Kevin Ayre said the school needs the public’s help to fill the buckets with potentially life-saving supplies.
“They’re going to be filled with gauze, bandages, water. You know, necessities in the situation that we have to be in a long-term lockdown,” Ayre said.
Army’s new machine gun will blast like battle tanks
Wut? . . .
The Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifle (NGSAR) may replace about 80,000 SAWs (the M249 squad automatic weapon). The well-known and loved M249 SAWs were already beasts — now the Army’s light machine gun is going to get even more powerful.
Armed with the NGSARs, soldiers will have the confidence of knowing the new weapon can be relied on for stopping power against sophisticated adversaries who arrive to fight in advanced body armor.
The goal is for the weapon’s chamber pressure to achieve similar levels to battle tanks. Recent conflicts have shown that currently issued weapons have not been sufficient when tackling the challenge of forces with defense innovation and access to modern equipment.
Virgin Islands governor’s gun-confiscation plan probed by Republicans
We first reported on this here and here . . .
Republican lawmakers are inquiring into an order from U.S. Virgin Islands Gov. Kenneth Mapp that theoretically allowed the state to seize citizens’ firearms ahead of Hurricane Irma last year.
Rep. Rob Bishop, who chairs the House Natural Resources Committee, and Rep. Bob Goodlatte, who chairs the House Judiciary Committee, sent Mapp, an independent, a letter Wednesday asking for clarification on an executive order he signed in September 2017 they said is still in effect.
The order, according to the two Republicans, gave the adjutant general the authority “to seize arms, ammunition, explosives and incendiary material and other property required.”
The order also “allows for the National Guard to spend government resources to acquire firearms and ammunition outside of normal government procurement processes.”
Bishop told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson the lawmakers want to know if “as devastating as those two hurricanes were, if that ever justifies the denial of a civil liberty or the denial of a constitutional right.”
Arkansas man gets 7 years for selling guns to felon in Chicago area
Huh. I’d been assured by all of the smartest people that we needed more laws enacted to prevent this kind of thing . . .
An Arkansas man was sentenced to more than seven years in prison for buying guns in his home state to sell illegally in Chicago and the southwest suburbs.
U.S. District Judge Ronald A. Guzman sentenced 28-year-old Klint Kelley of Malvern, Arkansas, to seven years and three months in federal prison on Wednesday, according to a statement from the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Kelley pleaded guilty earlier this year to one federal count of unlawfully engaging in the business of dealing firearms and one count of selling firearms to a known felon.
Would an armed leftist movement finally provoke sensible gun laws in America?
More gun owners on the other side of the political divide? Bring it on . . .
California’s gun control laws were jumpstarted by rifle-carrying Black Panthers who attended government meetings and went out “copwatching” (shadowing abusive white cops); white conservatives who’d been staunch ammosexuals, opposed to any limits on gun ownership and carrying, suddenly changed their tune and started hollering for gun control.
Last February, Medhi Hasan proposed a mass Muslim sign-on to the NRA, and now Stephen Eiseman asks what would happen if “Black Lives Matter, ACLU, Emily’s List, NAACP, Human Rights Campaign, PETA, The American Library Association, Planned Parenthood, Democratic Socialists of America, the American Communist Party, MoveOn.Org, Southern Poverty Law Center, Mother Jones Magazine, Pacifica Radio, Alternet, Earth First!, Michael Moore, Paul Krugman, Stephen Colbert and Natalie Portman all advocated the immediate arming of everybody on the left, including the right to openly carry a loaded weapon, and to bring them to political protests.”
Trump endorses the candidate who’s running against the NRA’s pick for Georgia governor.
Brian Kemp is running for Governor of the great state of Georgia. The Primary is on Tuesday. Brian is tough on crime, strong on the border and illegal immigration. He loves our Military and our Vets and protects our Second Amendment. I give him my full and total endorsement.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 18, 2018
That school is on to something. As a test, let’s replace all armed guards for anti-second amendment politicians with allowing them to carry a bucket of rocks (no more than 10).
Alternatively we could prosecute them for treason against their oath to uphold the constitution and enforce capital punishment. This would have the side benefit of directly reducing global warming thus solving two problems at once.
And why aren’t democrats being prosecuted for inciting violence?!?
What’s with the rocks? Fresh fruit not good enough, eh?
Next they’ll get all high and mighty and want pointy sticks…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JgbOkLdRaE
I hate articles that call them leftists. The reference of right and left came from where these kind of parties sat in European parliaments. There are three kinds of government, balanced republic, leaning toward anarchy, and leaning towards tyranny. The so-called leftists are would-be tyrants. Call them what they are.
It’s always interesting to see just how fully leftists fail to grasp the concept of rights. Rights are, by definition, universal, and few PoTG would suddenly demand gun control if those groups all saw fit to tool up
If they start shooting at us, we’ll shoot back, but unless (until?) that happens most of us don’t care. Hell, I’d actually support that on the off chance that maybe they’d realize firearms ARENT magical talismans of death, and stop fetishizing them as such
The right is just as bad at understanding the concept of rights. They only difference between the two sides in which rights they are against at any particular moment.
I dunno about that. The right is generally against abortion (because they think it’s murder) and flag burning and similar “anti-patriotic” crimes, as well as an anti-illegal immigration bent (and that is, by definition, not a right). That against free speech (I.e. anti-hate speech laws), freedom of religion (Masterpiece cakeshop, Hobby Lobby, the Little Sisters of the Poor), the 2nd Ammendment, etc. no real contest in my mind.
Abortion is the conscious taking of an innocent human life. That is the definition of the word murder. Of course abortion is murder. Everyone knows it. Some people just lie about it.
The right is just as bad at understanding the concept of rights.
Data says no. If you mean imagined rights, like the ‘right’ to free health care, maybe. If you mean explicit rights in our social contract, the US Constitution, there is no contest.
Health care is a heavy lift for me, mostly due to what I consider deliberate deception by advocates. You refer to “free health care” but I normally don’t hear that, just “right to health care”, then later come back with “po’ folk can’t afford it so we have to give it away”. I agree completely that everyone should have equal access to health care, and it would be really nice if schools pointed out how to go about arranging payment for that health care. Free health care, absolutely not. And “Medicare for all” is not a goal, because we already have it! Soon as you turn 65, they’ll start sending you the monthly bill, and you’ll know you’ve made it. Folks, NOTHING is free.
No they aren’t. This is a big lie liberal professors like to throw around, but in general the right has far better respect for the constitution and the bill of rights. The left has simply invented new “rights” and claims constitutional protection, when there isn’t any.
I’ll preface with I’m a 2A absolutionist.
However, there is that pesky 9th Amendment. Perhaps you’ve read it:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
This means that just because it isn’t stated in The Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, that something isn’t a Right.
The challenge, then, becomes, what is a right. To me, it has to be pre-existing (ie, not created by law), universal (applies to all) at a minimum. Health Care fails at pre-existing; Abortion fails at universal (applies only to women). Perhaps this is an over-simplification.
Also, just because something is a Right, doesn’t mean that there cannot be progress towards improvement. As an example, animals crap and pee everywhere, and before sewers, so did humans. With the notable exception of San Francisco (and I’m sure other places), we generally have laws against public urination. However, in general, when you gotta go, you gotta go…
I agree. What I had in mind is how the left keeps moving the Overton Window on just about everything. Like the death penalty for one example. First they claim certain types of executions violate the 8A, then they claim the death penalty itself violates the 8A. Then, they move the goal posts and claim life imprisonment violates the 8A, and so on. They do this with just about everything.
Right to choose abortion applies equally to pregnant men or women. Try another excuse.
“…all advocated the immediate arming of everybody on the left, including the right to openly carry a loaded weapon, and to bring them to political protests.”
Awesome. That will really mess up the general survey data. And, at least a portion of those so armed will actually find they like the idea of gun ownership, may enjoy time at the range, and then question or be conflicted when their own ‘allies’ decide that they should be disarmed.
A right is a right. I am concerned about preserving it, not bigoted fear mongering.
What would happen if “we” armed the leftards?!? Bring it on. The good guy’s(and gals) have a massive head start. Ability,skill and a trillion rounds of ammo. Oh and lot’s of progtards are girly boyz and cissy’s. See: Gersh KUNTsman…I’ll load up yur bucket😋
A violent left wing movement would very likely fight like Al Queda. Bomb innocents, hi jack planes/buses, abduct easy targets and innocents, shoot/blow up schools/orphanages, attack hospitals, voting booths, and all the while claim to be the victims while being funded by some nut job billionaire too afraid to fight himself. Radical militant Islam and radical militant liberalism are pretty much the same, one does it in the name of a god, the other in the name of the collective.
Accurate assessment.
As the victims of the “Facist-Right”, the Left would then form their own breakaway government and invite the European Union to send “peace keepers” to restore their idea of democracy.
The left already went there with the “Weathermen” & “Black Liberation Army”.
See the 70s, at one point I believe we averaged a bombing a day. I think Reagan was wrong on the Black Panthers (I’m not a fan of the panthers, but banning open carry wasn’t the right way to deal with them), but I can understand the impulse. Things were bad for a good while.
Pennsylvania deploys buckets of rocks and the U.S. Army prepares to deploy a Squad Light Machine Gun that will achieve 60-80 KSI at 600 meters and penetrate advanced body armor….Wow! We need to goad the Left into starting Civil War #2…
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/07/19/armys-new-machine-gun-will-blast-like-battle-tanks.html
Unfortunately, I believe THEY would be turned against the US Citizenry…More along the lines of The Las Vegas Mystery and the recent CNN comments with Anderson Cooper and CIA/Intelligence correspond talking about the Shadow Government should come forward and save America from it’s current government! My money is on a comet for a cosmic reset….
I think you are granting too much credence to the validity of ANYTHING Anderson Cooper and any CNN correspondent says on CNN. Cooper and CNN are too deeply afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Right now, both the Military and Middle Class Working America would side with Trump’s Executive Branch should anyone attempt a Revolt.
My money is on Super Volcanoes, aka Yellowstone, erupting to kick-off the cosmic reset.
Didn’t realize tank guns now came in creedmore.
Another example of how little the “news” knows about guns, albeit conservative news…. I’ll be waiting for an even more stupid liberal news outlet use this article as a source to decry the desteuctive power of military weapons and why they need to be kept out of the hands of private citizens.
This is the same Clio school district that’s fighting in the courts for the school board’s right to overrule the state’s legislature, ignore a 25 year old preemption statute, and prohibit CPL holders from carrying guns on public property.
https://miopencarry.org/k12-lawsuit
Huh, no mention of keeping rocks in those buckets at Clio High School.
Assuming that each classroom had enough baseball sized rocks for each student to throw three or four rocks, that would actually be a pretty formidable and effective defense mechanism. Any attacker who tries to breach the room would have to move through something like 75 to 100 baseball sized rocks moving toward them at 50+ m.p.h. (Note that 75 rocks at 50 m.p.h. would possess 12,000 foot-pounds of aggregate [pun intended] energy!)
I don’t see any attacker successfully gaining the upper hand in such a scenario — especially if the students piled up desks and chairs at the doorway.
I strongly doubt the ability of today’s students to hit a moving target with a thrown object to literally save their lives.
As dumb as a rock throwing defense sounds, I have been hit by a rock thrown at maximum speed, and it hurts like a MF. There is a reason people were executed by stoning in Biblical times – it works! I’d rather have a shooter stoned to death than sitting for another 10 years on death row. I say, arm everyone with rocks at the very least…
In PA they throw rocks.
In Clio they throw gauze bandages.
I’m beginning to think Clio might as well be Ann Arbor.
Yep, fear of armed black men made Governor Reagan anti-gun and nationally it gave us the GCA of 1968.
The vast majority of gun control in the USA has been racially motivated.
I believe the bucket of rocks violates the PN laws on weapons much the same way that the small bats handed out in another district in PN did.
If I am right then every adult can be charge with a misdemeanor
Look, a porta-potty in every room. They may need several.
“What would happen if “we” armed the leftards?”
Pleeeaase
What would happen?… the same thing that’s happening right now, because they are already armed….. They just don’t advertise it because they want to take YOUR guns. I have a feeling the twit that wrote the article is a naive true believing useful idiot.
I have no issues with any law abiding person who wants a gun. The problem is socialist progressives, homosexuals, Liberal self hating reform Jews, feminists, Liberals and the Left, have all NEVER supported the second amendment. And these racist sh*t bags NEVER SUPPORTED the gun rights of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.
But everyone of them totally supported the gun rights of the KKK to march in black neighborhoods while carrying guns.
Let’s get something straight, here. I *FULLY SUPPORT* the right of the KKK to carry firearms literally everywhere in the US, including black, green, or pink neighborhoods, and if you do not you are a racist.
You make me laugh! (smile)
“The problem is socialist progressives, homosexuals, Liberal self hating reform Jews, feminists, Liberals and the Left, have all NEVER supported the second amendment. And these racist sh*t bags NEVER SUPPORTED the gun rights of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.”
Does this part make you uncomfortable? If you read the book the “Negroes and the gun , the black tradition of arms” by Nicholas Johnson, 2014, you will see that these groups were insistent on blacks disarming during the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 60s.
I really do believe an armed society is a polite society. I like having people walk around with long guns. I thinks its wonderful!!
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/08/robert-farago/incendiary-image-day-ferguson-mo-armed-self-defense-editon/
I Think Col. Cooper was wrong about long gun open carry. The our society has been
de-education when it comes to gun civil rights and our collective Arms, (firearm, tomahawk, sword, etc) culture.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/johannes-paulsen/new-black-panther-party-tests-right-keep-bear-arms/
If the KKK does come to my neighborhood being lead by the ACLU lawyers, I will open carry my AR15, so I can give them a proper greeting. No one has to get shot.
BTW those same ACLU lawyers would never support my right to greet the gun toting KKK with my open carry AR15.
sorry , I meant to say our society has been de-educated when it comes to Arms.
Larry in TX
“The problem is socialist progressives, homosexuals, Liberal self hating reform Jews, feminists, Liberals and the Left, have all NEVER supported the second amendment. And these racist sh*t bags NEVER SUPPORTED the gun rights of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.”
I stand by my statement and white homosexuals a racist hypocrites.
“A man walked up to her group and picked up a Bible that was next to her. She asked him to give the Bible back. He refused, then hit her in the head with the Bible which knocked her to the ground.”
https://carm.org/homosexual-mob-attack-on-christians-castro-district
“Would an armed leftist movement finally provoke sensible gun laws in America?”
Considering the largest group of armed leftist in history are responsible for pretty much all of our gun laws (Hughes Amendment, LEOPA, Undetectable Firearms Act and the first version of the Gun Free School Zones act being the main exceptions.)
Huh??
Rocks are a weapon of war, and should be banned from our streets. – Philistines Demand Action
Oh man that’s a good one.
I’ll donate a bucket loaded with a G-19 and ten loaded mags.
“Would an armed leftist movement finally provoke sensible gun laws in America?”
Funny how they leave out all the other Domestic Terror going on at the same time. Including a CNN Commentator giving praise to one recently.
“People have completely forgotten that in 1972 we had over nineteen hundred domestic bombings in the United States.” — Max Noel, FBI (ret.)
https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
An you want to know something?
Come an take them, do it, triple dog dare you.
Done talking here, Nope you can’t have them.
The Communist are going to enact Legislation whether people want it or not.
Just like you guys(great/awesome guys/gals) reported on earlier.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/07/john-boch/seattle-mayor-jenny-durkan-ignores-law-signs-local-gun-control-ordinance/
There is no end to it.
It will never stop.
That bolt action rifle will be labeled a “sniper rifle”.
“People have completely forgotten that in 1972 we had over nineteen hundred domestic bombings in the United States.”
Who wants to remember that our 44th president was mentored by some of those commie bombers?
Certainly not the Progressives/Socialists/Democrats.
“They’re going to be filled with gauze, bandages, water. You know, necessities in the situation that we have to be in a long-term lockdown,” Ayre said.
And in case of a very long-term lockdown, the empty buckets will come in just as handy.
Damn good point! 😉
“white conservatives who’d been staunch ammosexuals, opposed to any limits on gun ownership and carrying, suddenly changed their tune and started hollering for gun control.”
The left simply doesn’t understand the motivations of the ‘People of the Gun’.
I heard the same comments in the ‘Washington Post’ after that nutjob tried to assassinate Steve Scalise and the rest of the team at that charity baseball game :
“Well! Now that it was one of theirs that got shot, we’ll see some action on finally getting some sensible gun laws!”
They just don’t get it.
And I’m at an utter loss in how to get it through to them why we don’t want more of what they want.
What is going on in their heads that drives them to that attitude?
Buckets of stones?
Buckets of stones and supplies in case of a shooter and lockdown…
What are they thinking? No, seriously, they are supposed to be a school! A place to train the brain! This is their smart idea? Buckets of rocks? Did they not hear about the kid who threw rocks at the border guard? He ended up with lots of new body piercings!
So the army thinks that chamber pressure is the key to defeating the enemy? How? As far as I can figure, it makes more recoil. That’s it. What’s wrong with the current calibers? Even the silly .223 / .556 is pretty mean on the battlefield. Also, putting the power of a tank in a rifle? When I read that on Fox News, I knew it would make it’s way here. What nonsense.
Buckets of rocks are for Pennsylvanians.
In Clio Michigan the school board doesn’t believe in self defense, so they give you a bucket of bandages while you wait a few hours for ’emergency services’ to enter the building and render aid.
Allison Barrie has got to be the absolute worst (and most sensationalist) “defense industry” writer of all time. Her articles always read like a promo for a new Nerf gun, and are riddled with misconceptions, embellishments, and moronic hyperbole. Her knowledge of chamber pressure is about as complete as my cat’s understanding of it. Or my dogs’ understanding of quantum physics.
It never ceases to amaze me how the same crowd who clutch their pearls at the idea of arming teachers with guns, because “Teachers aren’t soldiers!”, have no problem expecting those same teachers to engage a gunman with sticks and stones, or rush him unarmed as he reloads.
RE: High school stocks classrooms with ‘safety bucket’ in case of active shooter
uh…. Wow. The stupid is strong with this one.
Oh I know! Fill the buckets with Teddy Bears that contain ar500 plates!. Not only makes them feelz better, it works too! Just like on TV where the bad guy dodges bullets.
Is the safety bucket there to collect the spent brass? How long does this guy think a lockdown would last? Are they going to send everyone to a combat first aid class? Hand out RATS Tourniquet on the first day of school? The odds of being in a school shooting is less than winning Lotto. Much more likely to get hurt in a car. Will they have buckets on the buses too?
These lockdowns have lasted long enough for wounded to bleed to death. Nothing wrong with giving each classroom some basic first aid supplies, water, and a pot to pxxx in while they wait for the cowards in blue to frog march them to a parking lot.
Schools would be better off simply shooting the mofo, don’t bother to call cops until the end of the school day when the kids have left, so they can come get the body without disrupting classes.
They concede weapons would help yet balk at firearms.
They concede medical supplies would help but balk at TWC training.
So close yet so far.
Reminds me of the saying,” As dumb as a bucket of rocks “.
We truly have a stupid society. We can’t possibly survive it, long term. We will eventually be eaten. It has to happen.
Some of us. The rest need to just let it happen.
Hmm, I guess “sticks and stones can break your bones, but bullets only cause catastrophic tissue and organ damage” can be a new schoolyard rhyme.
The school is safe because there is a no weapons sign on the door, except rocks. Rocks are fair game.
“They’re going to be filled with gauze, bandages, water. You know, necessities in the situation that we have to be in a long-term lockdown,” Ayre said.
Ohhhh……..so they’re going to give the teachers medical supplies? Since when are teachers paramedics? They’re trained to teach in a place where children are supposed to be safe. Now they’re taking on field first aid duties?
That certainly puts the lie to all this “they’re teachers, not police, and they shouldn’t have self defense firearms in the classroom. It’s too complicated for them” nonsense.
I seem to recall reading about how the first murder in human history being comitted with a rock. Cain slayed Abel.
Tank guns do have somewhat higher chamber pressure than small arms. 81ksi verses about 70 ksi. More importantly, tank guns have a more prolonged pressure curve which yields more muzzle energy.
Um, in nearly every leftist overthrow of a government (see Democrat Party goals), the leftists disarmed the general populace and armed their followers. The article quoted asks what would We The People do if the left decides to arm themselves. The political strategy that the leftist endorse already calls for it, so it is kind of a stupid question. The key to their strategy has always been to disarm the people and arm the government with that government being the same leftist who want to disarm the people. During this process, the left will arm themselves…they just hope that we will be disarmed first.
I might note that this is probably the prelude to the left defending their cause after they ramp up the violence a few more notches. Their followers have already killed a few people and assaulted thousands, and it doesn’t take a clairvoyant to predict that the violence is going to get a lot worse. When their followers take up arms on a grander scale, I guarantee they will throw the blame on We The People. You know they will say things like “we wouldn’t have needed to kill you if you had only obeyed us”.
Certainly, there are scary times ahead of us.
I understand most of your theorizing but I would remind you we have at least a 100 to one edge in weapons and ammo, to say nothing of training (from veterans to hunters), and among these leftists are millions of people who don’t even know which bathroom to use.
Invest in toe tags and lime mining.
A bucket of rocks??? Isn’t that kind of violent for a liberal?
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