https://youtu.be/33qAILWercE
“During a 1994 interview, [rapper] Tupac Shakur spoke about the importance of gun rights and called out so-called civil rights leaders such as Jesse Jackson for turning their backs on their communities in exchange for political influence,” the YouTube caption reports. “Speaking with journalist Ed Gordon of BET in Atlanta, Tupac shared his perspective on his legal battles as well. At the time, Tupac and other rappers were being labeled as terrorists by politicians who were threatened by some of the messages contained within their music.”
Tupac was a true Constitutional Conservative like Ted Cruz! Only stupid racist DemoKKKrats think that rappers (aspiring or established) should stay on the DNC plantation! Lincoln is my president, not Drumpf!
Lincoln, the man who used the military might of the nation to keep people under the rule of his government, is your pinnacle of constitutional conservatism?
Pure sarcasm, friendo. I guess I did too good of a job imitating a certain contingent.
The Confederacy fired the first shot, sunshine_shooter, the Union responded as any nation would to hostile attack on its forces, and invaded the land of the aggressors and conquered them. More over the argument that the 10th amendment applies to the ability to own human beings as property falls flat on its face since it violates the spirit of the bill of rights, simple as that. It’s a tired old argument that the civil war was a war of state’s rights. Yes, the ‘right’ of rich southerners and their backwards agrarian economies owning black people as property because they were an inferior race and deserved to be working their fields and sold as chattel may have been a ‘states right’ but it violates the non-aggression principle in every possible way on account of *owning people as property is the purest form of aggression*. The Union has nothing to apologise for, responding to an attack on their troops by hostile, freshly foreign forces of the Confederacy, and conquering them, dragging their backwards, degenerate, lazy asses into the civilised world, kicking and screaming, *they* started it, the Union finished it, and freed people whom never would be free if left the the Southern elites, the same scumbags who made up the foundation of the democratic party outside of New York City.
Uhh, ok pal. First of all, despite being an outspoken opponent of slavery, Lincoln said outright that his goal in fighting the Civil War was not the abolition of slavery but rather keeping the Union intact. Secondly, slavery was not the focal point of the Confederacy. The majority of southerners were not slave owners, including two of the most renowned Confederate generals (Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston), whereas Union generals Grant and Sherman owned slaves right up to the ratification of the 13th Amendment. Thirdly, the Confederate government allowed any of its member states to abolish slavery as they saw fit. They also did away with the overseas slave trade. And finally, several Northern states held onto their slaves until 1865, when they were finally forced by the federal government to give them up.
Oh, another interesting fact is that the famous Emancipation Proclamation freed slaves in the South, notably avoiding the topic of slaves in the North.
Waldo:
“Oh, another interesting fact is that the famous Emancipation Proclamation freed slaves in the South, notably avoiding the topic of slaves in the North”
Simple explanation for that: Union states were ‘left out’ of the EP because of fear that Maryland would rebel, and for the rest of the states is was a non-issue. By 1861, Most Northern States were no longer slaveholding states. In Delaware, there were less than 2,000 slaves left, and most of those ran away by the end of the war. In Maryland the Unionists forced a (state) constitutional change after the war.
“Lincoln said outright that his goal in fighting the Civil War was not the abolition of slavery but rather keeping the Union intact.”
Which is true, but perhaps you’re missing the larger point. The war was started by the south to preserve slavery. The Republican Party was against slavery, the newly-elected President was very publicly anti-slavery, and the southern states reaction was to secede to protect their ‘rights’.
Tupac was a pretty smart dude. Like some other rappers he noticed some of the disparity between what Democrats said and what was really going on.
“They say it’s the white man I should fear/
but it’s my own kind doin’ all the killin’ here”
In that respect he was sorta like Saigon, Gang Starr, Big L or Biggie. While some of the music might be OTT in terms of violence the people behind it knew what was going on.
Some rappers just want to talk about money, slinging drugs, “catchin’ bodies” and other bullshit. The guys who are intelligent talk about getting away from that life because, as Big L put it in Street Struck “You betta listen when L rhyme; cause bein street struck’ll/Get you nuttin but a bullet or jail time”
L had some nasty beats too. The Enemy, Platinum Plus, Flamboyant, Ebonics, Danger Zone and a ton of others will get a house full of people jumpin’ and at least half of them asking you what in the fuck you have on your iPod. The production isn’t as tight as Dr. Dre or anything but it’s some pretty good East Coast rap.
THUG LIFE NIGGA
FUCK DA POLICE
HOLLA IF YA HEAR ME
Pac was just inducted into rock and roll hall of fame. Another great rapper/ story teller is scarface. Never be rappers as good. All new rappers are junk, and have pac rollin in his grave
Disagree. It’s all about what you like when it comes to picking the best. There are tons of people just as talented as Tupac the problem is most of them don’t get much play because everything is about being as “gangster” as possible these days. Ask me who the best rapper of all time is six times throughout the year and you’ll get a dozen different options.
Look through the smaller groups DJ Premier has worked with and you will find some true gems. Same with anyone Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind has worked with. Fuck, old Jedi Mind Tricks dishes out an education in math, history, psychology, physiology and religion as well as being entertaining. We used to play Violent By Design at high school parties and it was too intelligent for most of the crowd. The second verse in “Muerte” used to get people asking questions like “Only 10% that’s controlling us? What the hell is this guy talking about?”
The “Rock and Roll” Hall of fame probably has more rappers and R&B-ers than rockers in it. They should just call it the Cool Kids Who Played Some Music Club. Rush was eligible when the thing was founded and it took them, what, 10 years to finally, reluctantly let one of the most influential rock bands in history in?
Alex Lifeson’s acceptance speech said everything about it that needed saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zV4GaElko
I hadn’t seen that. That was funny. And Neal Peart didn’t look right without his beanie.
Of course there’s the link between rap, rock, country and R&B that goes back to jazz and the way that they all influence each other not just in terms of pop music but also in terms of musical theory and culture but… that’s a can of worms we really don’t need to open on this forum.
That speech is epic though.
Blah blah!
Mind playin tricks on me!
The relevancy of hip hop really went downhill after Tupac passed.
Removed by YouTube.
Doesn’t fit the progressive, Democrats don’t oppress blacks agenda.
Must have been spotted by the “Fake News” algorithm.
I didn’t get to hear the interview. Anyone know where I can see it?
Yeah, youtube noticed…video is now gone.
Deleted video or not. Thank you very much for posting this. Gets pretty damn tiring being called a gorilla and savage.
Just remember there are all lot of white folk out there that dont subscribe to that BS stereotyping. Stay strong.
Don’t forget “mutant…” A lot of the armed intelligentsia don’t have the stones to say what they really think.
We aren’t all them though, fuck em.
“I need a place to rest my head with the little bit of homeboys that remains, cause all the rest dead”
And who killed them? Other homeboys just like Tupac, that’s who. But they just don’t get it.
I remember the 1992 air brush controversy when white advertisers were afraid of images of black men with guns. So they air brushed out the gun in the movie post “Juice”, It was Tupac holding that gun. He was pretty mad during the CNN interview discussing the altering of his films Ad poster. But a white actor named Christian Slater did not have his gun removed from his films poster called “Kuffs”. The film Kuffs had come out at about the same as Juice.
Today it is still extremely rare to see a black person with a gun in advertising. Only some in the gun industry are brave enough to have positive images of law abiding blacks with guns.
Glock has been running a TV Ad with a concealed carry black business man. Also I found Colion Noir in a rifle Ad on a 2A web site, and then his YouTube channel, a year before his NRA show started.
Similar Movies, Different Ratings — Is It Racism?
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1992-02-14/features/9201080718_1_kuffs-ratings-board-valenti
AIRBRUSHING OUT CONTROVERSY
http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2007/10/jamoeblog/airbrushing-out-controversy.html
https://youtu.be/KMKJ5vJ5bH0
Not sure it’s the same but this is the interview i remember seeing a long time ago
Link still works thanks for posting. I wanted to see what all the hub bub was about.
Being a child of the 80’s and 90’s it’s interesting to see the same people who Democrats dragged into Congress to harangue and harass over their “objectionable” music now be invited by the same Democrats to perform and fund raise for them.
Something changed in rap and hip-hop music over that time. In the 80’s and 90’s most of the lyrics were about the current condition. Drugs, violence, unemployment, broken families. That’s when the Democrats hated them and slammed them with the parental advisory label.
Now that it’s all caricature crap about having lots of money, objectifying women and being drunk on lean all the time the Democrats love them.
“Now that it’s all caricature crap about having lots of money, objectifying women and being drunk on lean all the time the Democrats love them.”
Shire-man, this is the best observation ever! The more outrageous the message, the more it’s embraced by the liberal and (alleged) progressive black community. Prime example, FLOTUS said Beyoncé couldn’t be a better role model for her girls. #racetothebottom
Convicted Rapist Tupac? Sorry, don’t give a shit what he had to say on anything
Went to war with Tupacs lyrics. Buffalo Soja my soldiers stand eternal. For all his faults he was a hell of an artist
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