“Walmart announced Wednesday that it is raising its age restriction to 21 for firearm and ammunition purchases,” cnbc.com reports. “The company said in its statement that it made the decision in light of recent events and will try to implement this change ‘as quickly as possible.'” Another clear cut case of . . .
virtue signalling. The number of customers who go to Wally World to buy guns who are between the ages of 18 and 21 must be relatively small, vs. the publicity it’s getting from this move.
Ah, but is it good publicity? All these anti-NRA and proactive gun sales restrictions have got to be alienating The People of the Gun, making them feel more isolated and angry.
In light of recent events, we’ve taken an opportunity to review our policy on firearm sales. Going forward, we are raising the age restriction for purchase of firearms and ammunition to 21 years of age. We will update our processes as quickly as possible to implement this change.
In 2015, Walmart ended sales of modern sporting rifles, including the AR-15. We also do not sell handguns, except in Alaska where we feel we should continue to offer them to our customers. Additionally, we do not sell bump stocks, high-capacity magazines and similar accessories. We have a process to monitor our eCommerce marketplace and ensure our policies are applied.
We take seriously our obligation to be a responsible seller of firearms and go beyond Federal law by requiring customers to pass a background check before purchasing any firearm. The law would allow the sale of a firearm if no response to a background check request has been received within three business days, but our policy prohibits the sale until an approval is given.
We are also removing items from our website resembling assault-style rifles, including nonlethal airsoft guns and toys. Our heritage as a company has always been in serving sportsmen and hunters, and we will continue to do so in a responsible way.
Two Americas people. Two.
The dike is failing. If ever there was a time to speak out and retaliate, this is it. Contact one’s congressmen, use social media, write letters, get out the soap box and for God’s sake never surrender.
I’m not sure I understand how this is even legal. Federal law says you can purchase long guns at 18 years of age, and the ability to do so is supposed to be a Constitutionally-protected civil right. Right? So how could a retailer licensed by the Federal Gov’t simply choose to ignore Federal law and NOT sell to legally-qualified parties?
Licensed retailers cannot refuse to accept U.S. dollars, right? Can’t refuse to recognize government-issued identification, right? How is this any different?
I think age is only a protected class under Federal law in certain circumstances. They prohibit hiring discrimination against those over age 40, for example, but don’t protect those under 40.
Gun dealers can apparently deny a sale base on nothing more than a ‘bad feeling’ about a customer, so they may some leeway on age too.
I think that a lawsuit and the resulting discovery process would pull back the curtains on a serious conspiracy by a number of left wing gun control organizations working to convince Walmart to deny a large group of Americans their enumerated 2nd Amendment rights. I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t some federal money Involved. This isn’t quite the same as the local gun store deciding they don’t want to sell a Colt sport rifle to that skinny, pimply faced kid that swore a lot, had a swastika and barbed wire tattoos and a kill your mother t-shirt.
Um, there is zero chance of any lawsuit, and there is no method of the conspiracy your talking about to occur. Walmart has annual revenue approaching $500billion, you know $490 billion more than the anti’s have raised, ever.
Walmart has successfully been sued many many times. We are still talking about an enumerated right. And selling firearms and ammunition requires a FFL. This isn’t as simple as saying we aren’t going to sell model glue to anybody under 21. Of course an FFL is expected to exercise discretion if a sale makes them feel uncomfortable. A wholesale ban on an entire age group because of their age is in no way an example of discretion. This is much more complicated.
Just because you have the right to something doesn’t mean other people have to help you out with it.
The 2A prevents the government from interfering with your right to own a gun. It doesn’t compel a private entity, licensed to sell firearms or not, to sell you one just because.
It’s the same way the 1A protects your right to generally say what you want free from government interference. That doesn’t mean you walk into Wal-Mart and start screaming about how awful Wal-Mart is and they just have to let you do it. They can throw your ass out because it’s their property. On top of that the 1A doesn’t compel anyone to listen to what you have to say, it merely “stops” the government from preventing you from saying it. It neither forces people to listen to you nor does it remove other consequences you might face for saying what you say.
I don’t support Wal-Mart’s policy on this but it’s their right to do it. If you don’t like it, and it’s that big of a deal to you, don’t shop there. That’s what I’ll be doing. It’s called a “free market”. They’re free to sell what they want to the people they choose and I’m free to choose where to spend my dollars, as are you.
unless your (not) baking a cake.
Will they refuse to sell a firearm to a bisexual minority? What about an 19 year old female training with her local biathlon team? What about the 18 year old transgender female to male who registers with the selective service? So much hate, discrimination and hipocrasy from the liberal democrats!
I don’t agree with the whole cake thing or the wedding photo thing either but those are completely separate issues.
The CRA protects people based on “race, color, religion, sex, and national origin”. The ADEA protects people who are over 40 and only has to do with employment issues only.
There is no federal law about discrimination based on sexual orientation, sexual identification or any other sexual preference unless you work for fedgov. However, there are state laws on the topic and that’s where those lawsuits came into play.
Strych9 thank you for the info on CDA and ADEA. Frustrating times for 2A advocates. All rights are not created equal, unfortunately. Hopefully protection continues for home builds and private sales. Federal (or State) endorsed restrictions of sales and other means of access to law abiding citizens is a form of infringement. Thanks.
Francis:
Yeah, it’s sad to see companies caving but here’s how I look at it: They’re just showing their true colors. They never were 2A supporters nor friends of the POTG.
They wanted easy money and as soon as there was ANY inkling of a difficulty they were going to cut and run.
I’d rather know who’s with me now than find out I’m going to get stabbed in the back when it actually matters.
Stop it ! Your YOUR own worst enemy! And with a supporter of constitutional liberties form the likes of YOU! We might as well burn the US Constitution just to save face! Moron ! Bought to by another Fake Conservative claiming “corporate Rights over Constitutional Liberties for all!”
Strych9, you have apparently triggered Aaron M. Walker. Please report to sensitivity training.
You are completely correct, of course. But that is really no excuse.
So the 2A gives you the right to buy guns? Or the right to buy guns at a specific retailers?
What about gender oriented cakes from a specific vendor? If you sell cakes you can’t discriminate. If you sell firearms you can discriminate? So if a certain population group is responsible for the most crimes in a city can you refuse to sell to that group based on a minority class or other protected class such as age?
That’s not how protected classes work under American law.
I will concede that a vendor refusing to sell to 18-20 year olds has nothing to do with age discrimination, workplace discrimination CRA, EDEA, etc. But making a law that prevents 18-20 year olds from acquiring a modern firearm has everything to do with infringing upon 2A rights. Look, if the Federal government can require involuntary draft into a Federal army and prevent the same age group from effectively. independently arming, then that is exactly what the 2A protects against. So let a vendor make a sales decision, but don’t allow legislation that infringes upon that same transaction. Buyers will simply find another “seller”, which must be legally protected to be consistent with the 2A.
Handgun restrictions exist, that kind of kills the redefining rifles, so to speak.
Eugene Volokh had a short post on this today, which appears to be spot on. (I am an employment discrimination attorney which overlaps a lot with discrimination laws applicable to places of public accommodation. So I do know a fair bit about this.) Long story short: federal age discrimination law applies to employers but not places of public accommodation. Put another way, under federal law, you cannot discriminate against your employees on the basis of their age but you can discriminate against your customers on the basis of their age. But, there are state and local age discrimination laws that do apply to places of public accommodation which could be implicated.
I try to tell people this.
Here in Palm Beach County, FL we have this Ordinance that was expanded in 2015 due to Cakegate:
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Sec. 15-57. – Unlawful discriminatory practice in public accommodations.
It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice for any person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent or employee of any place of public accommodation, because of the race, sex, color, religion, national origin, disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status, or gender identity or expression of any person directly or indirectly to refuse, withhold from or deny to such person any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities or privileges thereof that are afforded the other customers, directly or indirectly; to publish, circulate, issue, display, post or mail any written or printed communication, notice or advertisement, to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any such place shall be refused, withheld from or denied to any person on account of race, sex, color, religion, national origin disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status, or gender identity or expression, or that the patronage of any person belonging to any particular race, sex, color, religion, national origin, disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status or gender identity or expression is unwelcome, objectionable or not acceptable, desired or solicited.
And in 2015 the county has expanded the definition of public accommodation to include a broad range of businesses, including retail outlets and places of transportation.
Section 15-37 Definitions.
( 4) Place of public accommodation shall include the following establishments:
e. A bakery, grocery store, clothing store, hardware store, shopping center, or other sales or retail establishment
I think 19 or so states include age as a protected class, and many many more local municipalities as well
Awesome. Good work, Barry.
walmart just lost all of my future business from their hardware and sporting goods department. Wana get stupid? lets get stupid! H-E-B is just down the street from walmart. I may even get groceries there too!
It’s a private company, not government. Therefore they can do as they please. Now is it a good move for them to do so….absolutely not and they will understand that shortly.
Not always the case. State and local laws may forbid discrimination based upon age. In my County the Ord does protect age as a class and I think Walmart and Dicks will have a pile of lawsuits especially because they are not even selling rifle ammunition to legal buyers that happen to be under 21
Chill out. What happened to corporations making their own decisions? Personally I hate walmart and never shop there. Their business practices are anti-American, they rarely pay living wage, they drive out other businesses and create parasitic communities that feed off the congestion around a walmart, and they tax law enforcement with their constant demands and sense of economic entitlement.
They have every right to do what they want when it comes to tightening gun sales. No big deal. In fact they might just soften the blow and pacify those who care without causing a change in state or federal law. Let this spin cycle run its course without making more silly “death of America” arguments.
We all lost those rights with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Like it or not the government can and does regulate who stores sell too. If the law does not exist nothing stops legislators from passing one.
When it comes to guns, selling them to anyone is at the discretion of the seller. Since an ID is required, there is nothing illegal or even anti-2A for a gunseller to refuse a sale for any damn reason they want. Ammo would fall under the right of the merchant to refuse service to anyone,
Remember, nature abhors a vacuum so sales will just move across the street. Making a bunch of noise will just attract the attention of those who want to pass legislation. At the moment the path of least resistance is let the big boxes cover their own butts. Lotta bark. Little bite.
Wally World and big Dicks need to put on some theatre to calm their investors and preempt more bad news to follow.
Surely theres more walls to crumble and pillars to fall. Pick your battles boys. When you are surrounded keep your sights on the ranking officers.
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My point is if a community does not like Walmart’s policy they can pass a law saying stores selling firearms can’t discriminate on the basis of age and Walmart must comply. Easy peasy. The only question is if pro-gun people have the political will or instead will accept the discrimination. The ball is in the pro-gun court.
You realize no one gives any relevance to anything you have to say in your posts here, don’t you?
Age discrimination is age discrimination… I wonder how people would react if Toyota announced that they wouldn’t be selling cars to people over 65 anymore because they are in a “dangerous” age group… They would get the pants sued off them.
+1
18-20 year old are not a protected class, period. So businesses can discriminate against them to their hearts content. That’s not what age discrimination means, it only has to do with the workplace and over the age of 40.
No discrimination to 40+ is what the ADEA covers, true. But there are certainly cases where discrimination of young people has been taken to court and ruled in favor of the young. Period. Period. Period.
Not under the circumstances of this situation. double period.
Right, maybe not under the circumstances here. But that’s moving the goalpost from your original reverse ageist statements. The concept of reverse ageism should be discussed, not drowned out by needless spelling out of punctuation marks. I wouldn’t typically make a deal out of it, but when it’s casually used to erode all of our 2A rights, regardless of age, it’s worth arguing.
You said “18-20 year old are not a protected class”. That’s simply not true. The 18-20 year old firearms enthusiasts are on our side, even though I’m not one of ’em. Just as the bump stock owners are on our side, even though I’m not one of them. So let’s engage in some conversation that helps our accumulative cause, not beat a dead “workplace discrimination” horse.
No, no, no, no, that is not how laws work. No matter how much you feelz, it doesn’t make it so.
You can’t make that a blanket statement. There are several states and even more local ordinances that DO NOT allow discrimination based upon age. Walmart and Dicks better be ready for a slew of lawsuits. In my County they are violation County Ord Sec 15-57.
People actually buy guns at walmart???? Ewwwwwwww.
I buy ammo there on occasion. I wouldn’t recommend buying 5.56 there, though. The Federal stuff they get seems to have a lot more dented cases than the batches at the LGS.
The only gun things I buy there are accessories, and then only if I can’t find them at my preferred LGS.
Dang it, why didn’t you say so before? I bought 100 rds. at Wal-Mart yesterday.
The only reason I buy ammo or anything gun-related at Wal-Mart is because I’m already there for the cheap groceries with a few bucks in my pocket. I don’t have the money to buy all the same things at a more expensive price elsewhere just to make a point.
For an actual firearm, I’d rather pay a few dollars extra (and have done so) to buy from a place that actually knows its products and maybe cares just a bit more about my community. Every time a company does something irritating like this, I’m just a little bit more likely to spend whatever discretionary $$ I do have somewhere else.
Yea, and a legitimate gun store usually has access to a gunsmith in case something is wrong. Try doing that at Walmart.
Very very few items at Walmart (including) groceries are a the lowest local price. Shop around
old enough to die in war, but heaven forbid you want to pick up some shot shells.
or buy a beer, or vote. You only have to be 17 to join the military, and sign off by your parent. You used to be able to buy a beer on base, but that’s been a long time. So there are lots of things you can’t do just because you enlist.
I just saw a Mini-14 in the gun rack at the local Walmart last week. I wonder if they will be pulling those from the shelves.
Walmart can KISS my Rebel ass. Not one dime more.
Again another company I can’t boycott because I don’t shop there already.
Isn’t it illegal do deny someone a human right because they are from a particular group? They are denying people between the ages of 17-21 from buying guns. Is that much different than denying black people their human right to buy guns?
Only if you are a Christian cake baker I guess, then the gubmint must make an example of you.
When I was 18 I was handed an M-16 and receipts for the millions of dollars of US Army I was responsible for.
*equipment* I was responsible for….
The Bill of Rights, and the constitution, are not human rights, this is not the UN. They are rights of the citizen. I hate it when people jesusify things that are not jesusyie.
The Constitution recognizes that rights do not flow from the government, they are pre-existing. The language of the Constitution supports this, throughout, and the ninth amendment in particular makes no sense apart from the concept of natural human rights.
No, that is the Declaration of Independents, “endowed by their creator” the closest thing to what your talking about in the actual constitution is the 14th amendment, which wasn’t adopted until 1868, specifically during the unpleasantness.
The Declaration is not a legally binding document. In Cotting v. Godard, 183 U.S. 79, the United States Supreme Court stated that it is a founding principle which directs the spirit in which the Articles of Confederation and subsequent Constitution were formed, but is in itself not a legal framework. In point of fact, the 1st amendment limits any rights conferred by a supreme being (and the fact that the constitution specifically was written to alienate a population of said rights that should be inherent, again the late unpleasantness) since with the free practice of religion, which deity would the right be conferred from, hence the supremacy of the actual Constitution, and subsequent amendments.
Well I was going to swing by after work tomorrow and pick up a c ase of beer, but I guess I’ll be headed to Hy-Vee instead.
Well, let’s see, I believe the Las Vegas shooter was, I believe 64 years old. What will these stores like Dick’s and Walmart do about this? No one between 18 and 64?
Don’t give them any ideas.
Yeah, screw the olds.
They’re even removing airsoft guns and toys too.
WAKE UP PEOPLE! This is the culture war and WE ARE LOSING!
We need to be organizing rallies like after Sandy Hook. Where is our presence? A tepid response from the NRA? Write letters and make phone calls all you want but we need to make ourselves visible!!!
There was the guy in a Walmart in Dayton Ohio who was gunned down by the cops for the flagrant brandishing of the air rifle from shelves of the Walmart.
I guess age discrimination is legal again. Because if this was done based on skin color, gender, sexual orientation, or religion they would be dead meat.
I’ll go out of my way to stop shopping at Wal-Mart.
Age discrimination has been legal outside of the workplace since the founding of the republic, and only then if your over 40, and I’m 50, in Tech, so I see that shit every day, I’m an executive now, but its bad for ICs if you older than 45 or so.
While that may be true federally, many states and even more local municipalities have laws that protect age as a class when it comes to discrimination in places of public accommodation. I wish people would do a bit of research before trying to make a statement of fact
Hold on. They will still sell handguns in Alaska because they “feel” they should continue to sell them? Isn’t Alaska one of the least-restrictive gun law states in the nation?
I think it’s because of bears. Bears must be stopped at any cost, you know.
I wonder what the reaction would be to Walmart deciding not to sell alcohol to anyone under 30? Over the counter medicines to anyone under the age of 25?
What do you think would generate more revenue, beer sales or guns&ammo sales?
Beer sales will generate much more income. I remember when Walmart carried a large selection of firearms. Now if they have a dozen in the case I’d be shocked.
Wal Mart should worry about flailing sales and competition from Amazon.
Boardrooms that worry more about politics than sales are mismanaging the company. Dicks: down 27% over 3 years. WMT is up 7% over three years (worse than Treasury bonds) when the S&P500 is up 29%.
Personally, I would rather be dipped in acid than shop at Wal Mart, and that was before this announcement.
Unfortunately, I live in a very rural area where there is not a lot of choice. I have a Walmart 30 minutes north or 30 minutes south. Other stores are simply too expensive. Yea, I buy most stuff online, but when I comes to large animal feed, I simply don’t have much choice. Costco is another necessary evil, and evil they are.
Communities let Wal Mart come in and push everyone out, now they are paying the price. Wal Mart is China’s biggest customer. Sounds like its ripe for the community to push back one way or the other.
There is NO WAY to keep Walmart out. They have the biggest ugliest lawyers around and more $ to feed them.
All these corporate/government restrictions will do is push 18-20 year old buyers into the private market, wherever they are legal and probably even until after they are not.
New black market will be on the way to fill the void. You can’t defeat economics.
I have bought exactly ONE box of ammo from Wal-Mart-in 7 years. Their ammo selection is pathetic IF you can find a drone to open a freakin’ case. Any gun sales are many miles from me. I hate to go there unarmed too…eat me Wal-Mart.
Go there unarmed? I’ve never gone there unarmed. I’ve never seen a “no firearms” sign at any of our Walmart’s.
Amazon will bury them in a shallow grave and a different WalMart type store will rise. Gotta get some of THAT stock.
You must live in a big city if you think that is going to happen.
Well, you can buy cloudbusters on Amazon, but not Walmart. Maybe Joe is right.
I can hear the champagne popping at every local gun store in the US.
Myopia. What can’t it do?
Since from the posts, anecdotally at least, there is no one buying guns and ammo at walmart, so those not sales at walmart are going to transition to not sales at LGS.
For what it’s worth…
WaPo 2012
“This long investigation by George Zornick tells the tale of how Wal-Mart conquered the U.S. gun market. The company now sells 400 guns in its stores. Sales have been brisk. The FBI received nearly 16.8 million background check requests this year. “Walmart is now the biggest seller of firearms and ammunition in America,” Zornick writes.”
Referenced study:
http://www.thenation.com/article/171808/how-walmart-helped-make-newtown-shooters-ar-15-most-popular-assault-weapon-america
Wellp.. thanks WalMart.. I’ll shop elsewhere.. being a gun owner and ardent supporter of The Constitution is not suppose to be something dirty, something looked down upon by those socially “superior”, it’s not some deviant behavior.
These companies capitulating to “public pressure” still enjoy protections provided by The Constitution, they are free to operate in the GREATEST country the world has ever known. These companies will not show any respect to the founding ideals that props their bottom lines up? Yeah, I’ll get what I need from other shops.
That’s fine CommieMart, drive more business to local gunshops.
One day corporations will learn to stay out of poitics for profits sake.
I can’t buy beer or now buy a rifle or ammo but I can enlist in the military and be handed a fully automatic M-16 and die defending my country. Something doesn’t smell right here.
You have a good and accurate nose Joe.
wal mart blows. Always have, always will. I’d rather do Patty the day time hooker without protection than shop there.
I will no longer shop at walmart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a GUN OWNER.
Use to buy ammo from Wal-Mart but it is far cheaper online. I already quit buying anything from Dicks after their last attempt to pander to the anti-gun left, so I can’t damage them further.
Wal-Mart doesn’t seem to understand who their customers are, this will hurt them more than they know.
I have an 18yr old that returned from Army Combat Eng OSUT Mar 8. When he returns from drill this weekend I think a trip down to Walmart is in order. “Why can’t he purchase a legal product because to his age (of majority)?”
Perhaps can interest the ACLU in a discrimination case. On rare occasion they are the right side of an issue.
Probably should be prepared to actually purchase something then. There’s a good chance that either a) the local near minimum wage help won’t get the memo yet, or b) the memo simply won’t get sent because this is just a corporate hand job for Uncle Mikey’s kids and they aren’t actually changing any policies at all. I would be interested in finding out what happens though.
Well another place to avoid shopping. Funny I bought my first firearm at Wal-Mart. It’s time for us to boycott any company that acts against us.
Wal-Mart. Dead to me. Same with Dick’s. And Alamo. And Delta.
I wonder if they’re going to refuse to sell hunting licenses to 18-20 year olds.
and Walmart gets sued for millions for age discrimination in 3-2-1!!!!
if they can make a baker bake a GAY wedding cake—-they can sue for this
count to infinity, because that’s not how age discrimination is codified in America.
Yep, 18-20 year olds are not a politically favored class in this country. Unless they’re black or gay or residing in the country illegally or something.
Depends on the state and local laws. Many do include age as a protected class in their discrimination in places of public accommodation laws. Look it up. CT does protect age as well as my county
Every single mass shooter has been over 21 except for Sandy Hook (he stole the firearms used), Columbine (purchased illegally through a straw purchaser), and now Parkland (the only one under 21 to purchase the firearm legally). This mad man would have acquired a gun illegally, or done as much carnage with a different method. How will raising the age change anything for a future situation? It’s feel good stuff, but unfortunately won’t save a soul.
Every single one except for those that aren’t. That’s not really a good argument. Next.
I think his point was that there was only one case where someone under 21 bought a rifle legally and used it in a high profile mass shooting. The other examples of under 21 shooters stole their rifles or bought them illegally.
I wonder what we’ll see in terms of public reaction. What the other virtue signaling companies have discovered so far is that these moves are a huge net loss. They pick up maybe ten points on the liberal side, but they drop sixty on the conservative side. Wal-Mart could find itself deep in the hole in terms of how people view it, and maybe for a long time.
Maybe Walmart has realized gun violence is hurting its customer base.
Walmart is literally one of the most dangerous places in America, look at all the statistics for assaults, robbery, etc happen there. And the customers are dicks with the shopping carts.
Just check the fu. https://www.google.com/search?q=walmart+crime&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
There’s no such thing as gun violence. Putz.
Actually, the cities that are most inflicted with ‘gunviolence’ (e.g. Chicago) have done a pretty good job of keeping Wa lmart out. Their customer base is pretty much rural America where ‘gunviolence’ is practically non-existent because everyone owns at least 5.
OK, this is just fucking retarded – you type in W-a-l-m-a-r-t and it links to a Bro wnells ad for black Friday deals. This in a nutshell is what’s wrong with America.
I’m on the fence, bought my wife a marlin 336w from the LGS, paid WAY too much, but had a convenience factor involved for sure, next day I bought my 336w identical in every way minus scope and rings at nearly half the price. I’m in a very small town, and Wal-Mart is one of very few choices within 50 miles, paying for a firearm to be shipped to my preferred FFL is insanely expensive, and ammo everywhere else is double Wal-Mart’s prices, granted all I buy is .22lr, the rest I handload, and all of my supplies are ordered online. I’m well beyond 21, but think the policy is bullshit, just like when I explained to the guy who sold me the rifle, it’s a bullshit policy that a manager has to walk me to the front door with a hunting rifle, but I had a loaded pistol on my hip. probably my last firearms purchase there.
Buy from the interwebz and have it sent to the FFL of your choice.
All your problems are solved.
How many liberals even shop at Walmart, i.e. what is the point of this? Any potential buyers will just go across town to a LGS for their purchase instead. Pointless virtue signaling at its finest. About time we start boycotting these spineless businesses.
‘How many liberals even shop at Walmart…’
Judging from the number of morbidly obese women in yoga pants riding in their complementary scooters with kids in tow, I’m guessing more than you think.
But they’re not buying g uns or a mmo.
Dude, that is a Trump voter, it should be on his new reelection page.
Time to be tossed onto the ash heap of history.
I am not entirely sure that WallyWorld can legally do this. Maybe their is a Lawyer among us that can definitively answer that question. That being said, I’ve never, and never even considered purchasing any firearm from Wal-Mart. Occasionally, I may purchase some 22LR or 12 Guage if the price is right, but never firearms. I have a feeling that few do. In the end, its nothing but virtue signaling to their core patronage…..liberal welfare Rats.
Yes, they can legally do this 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Perfectly legal.
Since I have seen you make the same false statement of fact several times, I will just leave this here….
Here in Palm Beach County, FL we have this Ordinance that was expanded in 2015 due to Cakegate:
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Sec. 15-57. – Unlawful discriminatory practice in public accommodations.
It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice for any person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent or employee of any place of public accommodation, because of the race, sex, color, religion, national origin, disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status, or gender identity or expression of any person directly or indirectly to refuse, withhold from or deny to such person any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities or privileges thereof that are afforded the other customers, directly or indirectly; to publish, circulate, issue, display, post or mail any written or printed communication, notice or advertisement, to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any such place shall be refused, withheld from or denied to any person on account of race, sex, color, religion, national origin disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status, or gender identity or expression, or that the patronage of any person belonging to any particular race, sex, color, religion, national origin, disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status or gender identity or expression is unwelcome, objectionable or not acceptable, desired or solicited.
And in 2015 the county has expanded the definition of public accommodation to include a broad range of businesses, including retail outlets and places of transportation.
Section 15-37 Definitions.
( 4) Place of public accommodation shall include the following establishments:
e. A bakery, grocery store, clothing store, hardware store, shopping center, or other sales or retail establishment
I think these billionaire CEOs shouldn’t use their billion dollar businesses to force political agendas. Please consider taking your business elsewhere from now on rather than going to Dick’s or Walmart. I certainly will be doing that.
https://reason.com/volokh/2018/02/28/can-gun-stores-refuse-to-sell-rifles-and
His points 4 and 5 are purely wrong, on a constitutional level, federal supremacy applies, hence we get gay cake lawsuits in state where local ordnance says its OK.
At the end of the day, does Walmart even care, or is this a press release policy, or an actual policy.
Wal-Mart parking lots are one of the highest crime areas in every community.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-walmart-crime/
You had better be carrying if shop there. Wal-Mart has enabled the Chi-Com economy to boom and threaten us.
By the way, here are same demographics on “mass shooters” which contradict all the propaganda. If you do some math, there are more “mass shooters between 40-49 years old than 21 years and under.
From 1976 to 2011 (the latest that demographic have been figured in) here is the breakdown: Gender: Male 506 95.8%, Female 22 4.2%; Race White 321 62.0%, Black 171 33.0%, Other/Unknown 26 5.0% [During this period of time all “Hispanics” were counted as “White”). Age: Under 20 years 63 12.2%, 20-29 years 196 38.1%, 30-39 years 127 24.7%, 40-49 years 95 18.4%, 50 years and above 34 6.6%. Note: 2010 Census, the United States was 73% White, 13% Black, 9% Hispanic (this is a self-identified number as many Hispanics chose to identify as White). 5% Asian.
I CANNOT
Drink alcohol
Defend my 2nd Amendment Rights.
I CAN
Vote.
Smoke.
American logic
In germany an benjamin airbow crossbow is an children toy but any company sell it only to adults at 18.
It s companiy right
This one is so easy, just commit to no wal mart. If everybody on the side of the second would do it, which is half of america, this stupid shit would stop.
I refuse to shop at Walmart and I haven’t been in one in years. This is just one more reason to stay out of those shitholes.
I wish FFL was never made available to big box retailers in the first place.
Lawsuit 10000% coming on the bases of age discrimination
Free market / a business and or entity has the right to refuse services
However NOT on the bases of race,sex, ethnicity nor AGE
Many moons ago, I worked at Walmart’s Sporting Goods and Automotive section the summer before college. We still sold handguns, and I remember a stainless Colt Commander there. However, I think we sold less than a gun a week, and the selection is much less now. It can’t generate that much business for them, and I can see them abandoning all gun sales (except in AK) in the next 5 years. If PoTG boycott, who will buy their guns? It won’t be worth the cost to stock them or maintain the FFL. That’s not too uncommon. Sears, Target, and Osco Drugs no longer sell firearms or ammo, and their decisions weren’t made when antis were pressuring.
Blah, blah, blah, violating the 2A, blah….
I ain’t shoppin’ in your crappy store again…blah, blah.
Many States and even more local municipalities have age as a protected class in their discrimination in places of public accommodation laws.
Here in Palm Beach County, FL we have this Ordinance that was expanded in 2015 due to Cakegate:
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Sec. 15-57. – Unlawful discriminatory practice in public accommodations.
It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice for any person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent or employee of any place of public accommodation, because of the race, sex, color, religion, national origin, disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status, or gender identity or expression of any person directly or indirectly to refuse, withhold from or deny to such person any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities or privileges thereof that are afforded the other customers, directly or indirectly; to publish, circulate, issue, display, post or mail any written or printed communication, notice or advertisement, to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any such place shall be refused, withheld from or denied to any person on account of race, sex, color, religion, national origin disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status, or gender identity or expression, or that the patronage of any person belonging to any particular race, sex, color, religion, national origin, disability, familial status, sexual orientation, age, marital status or gender identity or expression is unwelcome, objectionable or not acceptable, desired or solicited.
And in 2015 the county has expanded the definition of public accommodation to include a broad range of businesses, including retail outlets and places of transportation.
Section 15-37 Definitions.
( 4) Place of public accommodation shall include the following establishments:
e. A bakery, grocery store, clothing store, hardware store, shopping center, or other sales or retail establishment
This policy violates Oregon state law that prohibits age discrimination of those ages 18 and older. It probably violates other state laws. Walmart publicly admitted that they will commit discriminate on the basis of age so not only will they get sued but attorney generals may take legal action if they violate state laws in the process. They may also end up violating ordinances by enforcing this policy.
Oregon Law clearly prohibits discrimination based on age.
that is checkmate
659A.406 Aiding or abetting certain discrimination prohibited. Except as otherwise authorized by ORS 659A.403, it is an unlawful practice for any person to aid or abet any place of public accommodation, as defined in ORS 659A.400, or any employee or person acting on behalf of the place of public accommodation to make any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is 18 years of age or older.
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