By Brandon via concealednation.org
Many of us look forward to settling down after a long day at work. Itβs natural, to just unbuckle the belt, unclip the holster and put the gun away. Especially for those folks looking forward to the embrace of their children or significant other β home is the place we can relax. Itβs where we settle down for the evening.Β Unfortunately, thereβs plenty of people hoping thatβs theΒ exactly what you do . . .
According to one study funded by the City of Houston, Texas, the majority of home burglaries and invasions occur duringΒ daytimeΒ hours. Specifically,Β 7 am β 2 pm.Β Time of day (TOD) analysis by several other police departments for major metropolitan areas have also been conducted but unfortunately, the FBI does not publish specific statistics on reported TOD β just numbers of incidences, location, etc.
A lot of Americans arenβt home during those hours. Weβre out working and our kids are normally in school. So, for a burglar, who’s characterized broadly as aΒ male,Β 25 years or less, and statistically living within two miles of the place he intends to rob, that’s the time of least resistance.
Another significantΒ statistic is that most of the burglars live in close proximity and are evenΒ familiar with the target residence prior to committing the home invasion.Β So, unfortunately, the person robbing your house is statistically likely to be at least somewhat familiar with your daily routines and patterns.
WhatΒ conclusion should you draw from this? Just because youβre home doesnβt mean you should stop carrying your concealed firearm.
Commitment To Everyday Carry Whenever Possible
Weβve covered a number of home invasion stories in the course of trying to educate the 2A community on the merits of carrying both inside and outside the house. Home is where we are most vulnerable because when we get there, we relax. Relaxation is good! Human beings need to be able to let their guard down and put their feet up.
Thatβs why having a concealed carry firearm while youβre at home is potentially one of the best defenses you can have.
Letβs take three recent examples from stories we covered to illustrate how the home can quickly β an unpredictably β turn into a combat environment.
- Recently, a man wasΒ hacked to death by a macheteΒ when a guy barged into his house.Β He, too, like many of us, was relaxing and not at all expecting some guy to run in and start hacking away at him.Β Unfortunately for him, he didnβt have access to a firearm to stop his attacker.
- An elderly womanΒ stopped two home invaders from raping herΒ because she was able to get to her firearm in time.Β These two home invaders snuck in completely unbeknownst to her and would have likely had their way with her if she hadnβt been able to defend herself.Β Home defense with a firearm isΒ crucialΒ for those often targeted for home invasion.
- A man who had previously been burglarized,Β armed himselfΒ and ended up using that firearm to save himself from another armed burglary attempt.Β He was likely targeted a second time after the first time went so well.Β The worst thing we can do is underestimate our foes.Β And like predators who see a meal easy for the pickings, criminals will often target the same spot twice if they hadnβt received any resistance from it.
Our job, as protectors of our home and family, is to keep that place safe. Home defense is an all-hands-on-deck affair. Everyone has to be prepared to act if necessary. Your significant other can be your greatest asset β as we found out earlier this year when an elderly man was able to stop his wife from being beaten by home invaders byΒ faking sickness to get to his pistol.
For those living alone, itβs even more crucial that youβre willing and able to defend yourself at all times. Outside birth, death and taxes, nothing in this life is guaranteed. The rest, my friends, is up to us β carry your pistol in the home as well as outside of it.
Carry 7×24 if at all possible. I’m mostly at home during daytime hours nowadays and come and go at random and we have a barking dog. Closest neighbors are also around during the day and we keep eyes out for each other all the time. We’re also a hundred yards behind the town hall and a mile down the road from the county sheriff. Which means nothing much, of course, if some burly hooded goblin is kicking in our back door. Thus, EDC, all day long and at bedside. Said goblin/s will rue the day.
Are we going to get a new variation of this article by a new person every week?
I hope so. The firearms community gains new members every day. Some of them discover TTAG every day. Such articles may be yesterday’s (yesteryear’s?) news for many of us. For others, it’s brand new and potentially lifesaving information.
Agreed. The fact that the firearms community gains members every day is often overlooked. Just one example are the cries of any new firearm being “too late to the party”. Not just too late to the party for them, too late period. Maybe they consider new shooters too late to this party as well.
In any case and back on topic I prefer basic gun safety and self defense to be covered repeated and often.
“. . . basics gun safety and self defense to be covered repeated and often.” I agree.
Granted, most of it will be redundant. Nevertheless, with each author’s exposition, some nuance will be covered that wasn’t presented before. Plagiarism is the heart of building an encyclopedia. The next author will preserve the most important new material and the best expression of old material.
The best coverage of any topic (safety, CC, OC, etc) will converge on the state of the art. TTAG is the ideal vehicle to collect this wisdom.
@ GusMac:
Agreed!!! This is the proper response to all the Debbie downers who poo poo’d the G42 & 43. I read a lot of nonsense like “Glock’s too late to the party, no one cares about their new products!” Etc. nevermind new shooters, both in terms of young people coming of age and new more mature shooters. The Internet is full of people who think their single, if loud, opinions should dictate what the firearms industry should do.
I think a lot of folks think it’s to much trouble to carry around another pound or two. Best option then would be to carry a small 380, or an NAA mini revolver in your pocket. I do, 24/7
24/7? Seems like that would be uncomfortable in bed, especially at certain times. How do you secure the holster if you aren’t wearing any clothes? Or do you use “in-body” carry?
As Smithers would say “Release the hounds!”
I keep weird hours, so the folks scouting out my house know that. I have a combat mindset from my time in the Corps and from the altercations I’ve had at work over the years. My wife is only partway there, but the fact that some A-hole tried to steal her 4Runner out of our driveway definitely left an impression. Grandma would be harmless in a fight – I hope that never happens.
We’ve got pistols in speed safes, dogs, motion lights, Tasers, loaded guns in safes, and decent neighbors. I doubt anyone will try the inside of our home but they will find me prepared if they do.
Mr. Burns said “Smithers, release the hound!”, Smithers was the butler.
I always liked it that he had an actual red button labeled “The Hounds.”
Mr. Burns releases the hounds on every charity that comes to the door. “Feed The Children”, “Save The Whales”, even “Release The Hounds.”
Shooting that guy with a .380 would just piss him off!
Yeah, I was thinking the shotgun with 00 Buck alternating with slugs. Maybe a bazooka.
If 90 grains of lead in your brain, heart or lungs is how you define “pissing him off”, then yeah, a 380 will just piss him off.
Nevertheless, punching a .380 through layers of flubber or layers of flubber and winter clothing in that season to hit a vital organ and shut that guy down immediately would be chancy. A split-second accurate shot to the face or multiple shots, maybe. Why not a Shield-type 9mm? How much bigger or heavier is it than a .380?
I carry a .380 Colt Mustang Pocket-Lite. I also have a 9 mm Sig that is a little bit heavier. I tried carrying the 9 mm; but, decided it was just a little too heavy to be perfectly comfortable. The .380 is just light enough to be comfortable. It’s really a subjective thing; a few more oz. makes the difference between being inclined to not inclined to put it in my pocket.
It is a broadly accepted axiom that any gun that is carried is vastly more powerful than any gun you decide to leave behind. Each person needs to decide for himself just how much weight (and what shape) he really IS going to carry.
The data – poor quality that it is – I’ve seen seems to support the argument that most stoppage is apt to be psychological rather than physical. Most BGs the average person is apt to confront doesn’t really want to be shot at and will flee in the face of the first couple of rounds fired no matter how little injury he might sustain.
This foregoing analysis is strictly applicable to the amateur carrier. If you are a soldier, cop, bouncer, bodyguard then the average BG you should expect to encounter must be presumed to be much more committed to his short-term objective. Having chosen your profession you need to accept the discomfort of carrying a full-sized gun with an adequate capacity magazine.
The question I have for folks who like to carry little pocket guns is:
How often do you actually practice with it? Is it fun to shoot? How well do you actually shoot with it?
Never talked to anyone who really liked shooting the little things… And you will fight as you train. If you don’t train with your carry gun, you might as well buy a whistle. Much lighter.
Valid questions. I don’t practice enough. You are right. My groups aren’t tight. I’m not a marksman by any means.
These points conceded, I placed 2’nd in my stress-fire course with a score of 294/300. My SC qualification was 100. This tells me little about how I might actually acquit myself in a gun-fight. I’m trying to keep my eye out for a course that really attempts to simulate a real gunfight with shot/don’t-shoot scenarios. Haven’t seen one near-by.
Working in our (i.e., those of us who are lazy and uncommitted) is that most amateur gunfights are at close range and involve an attacker who probably places a higher priority on his own survival than the short-term goal of completing his attack.
Therefore, my conclusion is that the gun I carry is infinitely more powerful than the one I leave at home.
One’s lifestyle is also important. I avoid stupid: people; places; times; games. So, my risk-profile is about as low as anyone’s might be. If I had to suffer any one of those risks (e.g., I lived in the inner-city) I’d rebalance my EDC decisions accordingly.
Good points, thanks.
Ex-soldier, ex-cop. Our main threats in this area are the local yokel miscreants and felons who seem to be smash-and-grab types so far, plus a fair amount of dope activities in the town and the “city” (8,000) up the road, primarily heroin, pills and meth.
I have the Shield on my person as EDC everywhere and larger stuff around the house, with no kids at home (they’re grown and gone). If I’m expecting to travel through questionable areas at questionable times I carry the Shield plus a CZ-P09, both w/extra mags.
The missus wants to get up to speed ASAP so things are good on that score. Just a matter of having the time at home for her to do it (job is all over the country; she’s in Georgia this week and Colorado next, typical).
If you think a 9mm shot will put someone down instantly, I’m afraid you’re disqualified from commenting on the topic of caliber effectiveness. Not even a 12 gauge or a 30.06 is guaranteed to put someone down instantly. Real life isn’t a movie or your favorite teeeeveeeee show. And what the hell is “flubber” supposed to mean? Are you trying to write “blubber” and you think it’s cute to say “flubber” instead? Jesus.
Nowhere did I say a 9 would drop a perp instantly, and your rush to “disqualify” me from commenting on caliber or whatever is laughable.
I probably saw more real life before you were born, sonny, and flubber is flab/blubber, simple as that.
@davidx I thought ‘flubber’ was for ‘flying rubber’ from that Disney movie from 45-50 years ago with Fred McMurray.
The ballistic difference between a 380 and a 9mm in a Shield sized firearm is negligible. The barrel in those small, pocket sized guns is too short to actually get the bullet up to higher speeds.
No need to aim at the flubber, double tap to the ‘nads usually takes the steam out of them.
Yeah, I know, or the eyes or throat, etc. Not always easy to have such precision during stressful conditions when Godzilla Junior is caving in yer back door, though. Spray and pray time for most folks, probably.
Yep, and shooting a guy with a 7.62 Nagant will just annoy him–unless it makes him turn around and run away to keep from getting shot again. I carry a 9×18 caliber pistol, just marginally more powerful than a .380. Anyone here want to stand 10 feet away from me and let me shoot them with it? I promise not to be offended if you get pissed off. Heck, I even load it with FMJ, how bad can it hurt?
One of the best things about me losing 20 pounds is now that my pants and shirts are loose I can comfortably carry and conceal my Glock 17 and 22.
In the summer months and as a back up gun at work I carry a Rugrr Lcr .357 with Speer short barrel gold dots in it.
Caliber and manufacturer debates aside, having any gun is better than no gun at all, even a .22 if that’s all someone feels comfortable carrying.
I’ve carried a CC pistol for ten years and an OC pistol for almost eight years now.
The idea that some how I can’t relax if I don’t take my pistol off when I got to the house never made any sense to me.
I’ve carried so long now, it doesn’t feel right on my waist if I take the pistol off before I go to bed.
That photo cannot be correct. ADT home security commercials have assured me that all thieves/home invaders/burglars are white males with three-day beard growth who wear black stocking caps and sweat suits.
I agree. I pocket-carry a mouse-gun (.380). It goes from bedside to pocket in the morning and pocket to bedside in the evening. Therefore, it’s always handy. I don’t have to maintain an inventory of a half-dozen guns throughout the house; nor do I have to collect them when my grand-daughter comes to visit. Nor are they available to a burglar when I’m not home.
I don’t want to carry a gun that’s heavy or large enough to be a nuisance. My little friend is just under the nuisance level so I DO carry it just about all the time that I could.
Home-carry is probably a good way to transition a new-bee who is squeamish about carrying. She can be urged to carry a blue-gun or a toy-gun until she becomes comfortable that nothing happens to her inert rig. (e.g., it doesn’t fall out of her holster.) Then, carry her real gun. She will find a comfortable carry position and become psychologically immune to the fact that a gun is now a part of her every-day accessorizing. Thereafter, she will be comfortable stepping-out into public confident that she’s not exposing her butt.
You know, I’m just not going to carry inside my home. I accept the risks and try to mitigate them by keeping doors locked and keeping a firearm within easy reach (I live in very small place), but it’s still a bit uncomfortable which is not an issue outside the home, but I’d like to be free of wearing it at home.
“You know, Iβm just not going to carry inside my home.”
Where you feel most safe…
Is where you are most vulnerable.
I guess I must be lucky. I don’t have this burning desire to get out of my work clothes when I get home and lounge around in sweats or something like that. My work clothes are comfortable and I donβt have that attitude many seem to have that they (my work clohtes) are some sort of mark of slavery. So I can just keep the gun on.
I’m more at hazard between waking up and getting dressed, and of course while at my job (gun stays in car, corporate policy).
Sorry was midway through editing this sentence when I got distracted and forgot…then I posted.
I donβt have that attitude many seem to have that they (my work clohtes) are some sort of mark of slavery.</em.
I always home carry. It’s so effortless and easy that I can’t believe that people won’t do it. To each his own. But to me, carrying at home is as “natural” as changing my underwear. YMMV.
Is that a six pack of tallboys as in previous thread or …….?
At home, it’s strictly refrigerator storage for the tall boys. Just not for long.
Some folks rely on their dog to settle home invasions. They are a fine warning device, but will probably take the first bullet!
Unless you are pretty isolated, burglars do not, even if armed, want to shoot anything. It makes too much noise and alerts the neighbors. Barking dogs, even ankle biters, are a clear deterrent to anyone who has cased your house prior to the attempted entry, particularly for teenagers.
Room clearing is a whole lot easier with a dog, and I know my dogs are on my side. If my dogs get hurt I’ll do my best to save them. Worst case scenario there are a lot of wonderful pup in this world that need a loving home. I’d rather lose my dogs than a human member of my family.
I took in a Scot “Terror”. Neighbor had turned him out to fend for himself. Put food and water out, and that was it. The dog would come over and sit on porch with gf and I in the evening, watching for the guy to come home. Always faithful, when the man’s truck came down the road the little fella would trot off to meet him. One day, note was on front door, I could have the dog, or the man was going to take him to the pound. I was on the phone and across the street in minutes. First time the Scot Terrier alerted in the wee hours, I was out of bed, glasses on, pistol in hand, the animal cleared the house ahead of me like someone had trained him to do it. He’s got a home, and family. He still recognizes his previous owner, but, he stays by me.
What is this obsession with “concealed?” Who are you concealing the gun from at home? Anyway, the need and the risks are exactly the same if you CC or OC. It’s tiresome when so many people assume that “concealed” is the only option.
The main reason, I would suspect, for carrying concealed at home would be the same reason I would, and do, carry concealed when I’m out and around. Even more so at home, simply because if you have an intruder burst into your home, and he notices you have a gun on your hip, before you can draw and fire said gun, your going to be his first target!
You have every right to choose how you carry, etc. Your answer does not address the question. Why are so many articles worded to EXCLUDE OC completely, and use the word “concealed” repeatedly, as if it is somehow permanently attached to the word “carry.”
It is not. I’ve successfully carried openly for more than 10 years, and I have zero worries about being “shot first” in any encounter. That’s a myth that just won’t seem to die – and is especially silly when considering being attacked in my home. Any intruder is going to have to overcome several serious barriers and make a lot of noise to gain entry. And my gun will be out and in operation long before he has any chance to harm me. And boy, won’t he be surprised. LOL
Actually, most people don’t even notice the gun that is highly visible on my belt. Since the advent of the cell phone, I wonder if most people would identify an elephant or a gorilla unless it grabbed them.
Mamma, I agree whole-heartedly.
In the home, it seems to me that a busy mother with little children might be marginally better off OC such that she could be sure to get to her gun even if she happened to be holding an infant in her left arm or be otherwise engaged and not be able to pull-aside a cover garment.
If a carrier planned to CC outside the home then she might CC inside the home as a means of becoming familiar with her CC arrangement before hitting-the-streets.
The topic under discussion is home-carry. We ought to wake-up to the fact that one is free to do just about anything one wishes to do while in the privacy of one’s own home. OC in DC/NYC/NJ/MD/. . . ? In the home Masseurs Heller and McDonald says it’s your right! OC-in-the-home-in-the-buff? Be my guest!! One who is warming-up to the idea of OC on the streets might want to OC in the home to warm-up to the idea first.
OC outside the home is some combination of what the laws and mores of the local jurisdiction will tolerate. In PA I’m at liberty to OC. I would do so at an OC event where the act of OC would be construed to be a demonstration.
I’m hesitant to do so individually – but I’m honest about it. I’m not going to claim that I don’t OC as an individual because of a tactical pretext. Is that what we are seeing on these boards? I.e., are those “who duth protest too much” lacking in the courage of their commitment to advertise their support of the right to bear arms?
Maybe it’s both: a lack of courage of commitment; plus, some doubts about tactics. Perhaps the answer is group therapy. Maybe the more intrepid among us could organize group-therapy sessions disguised as RKBA demonstrations at appropriate public venues. We get together at the appointed hour for a 1-hour stroll around the public square all OCing. Any BG willing to rush a dozen OC to grab a gun needs to be lured out and be overtaken so that he can be locked-up in an asylum where professionals can work on his impulse control.
The group demonstrations will serve as public education consistent with our grand tradition of political parades/demonstrations/protests. The more squeamish among us will get the group-therapy we need. In a few years we will accumulate the courage to OC out on our own.
“Who are you concealing the gun from at home?”
– Small children (mine and the neighbors’).
Do you think the kids will die somehow if they see it on your belt? Good grief.
Somewhere a washing machine is missing an agitator.
@anomad,
The issues she has raised in this topic are real. Insults and snark won’t change that.
Shouldn’t you consider inoculating children from the dreaded disease Hoplophobia?
My wife. She hates guns, and won’t even touch one. She knows I have them, but it is “out of sight, out of mind.”
That’s a personal choice, yours and hers. Does not answer the question of why so many people seem to insist the words gun or carry must have “concealed” as an automatic part of the phrase.
Ah, yes, managing one’s manager. My wife is not altogether comfortable about guns either. Nevertheless, it seems that her tolerance has grown by recognizing that that there are risks out there in the world. She comments when we go for a walk that she feels more comfortable with me along. I point out that there is nothing I could do to protect us; it’s only Mr. Colt in my pocket that makes a difference. Instead of leaving my gun on top of the nightstand I leave it underneath the nightstand. Thereby, she doesn’t see it usually; she notices it only occasionally.
I leave her with not the slightest shred of doubt that my guns are there; they just aren’t “in her face”. Over the years, her expressions of opposition have faded nearly completely.
I don’t home carry all that often but there is always a handgun or rifle within arms reach.
The benefit of an assault while you’re at home is you’ll have warning. Somebody will come up the driveway, the dogs will bark or perk up, flood lights click on, steps are heard on the stairs, etc… Obviously your home, surroundings, sounds, windows, lights and all may vary.
By the time that foot makes contact with your door you’ll have been ready for a while unless you’re drunk, blasting music or are otherwise oblivious.
If I’m out in the yard I carry. Not sure if that qualifies as home carry. I’m at home but I’m outside.
Shire-man,
Many homes are easy for a home invader to approach undetected on foot … I would dare say 50% of homes in the United States. Once at the door, the home invader could potentially kick the door open with one kick and be on you (depending on your exact location in your home) within two to four seconds. That isn’t enough time to process the event, move to your home-defense firearm, grab it, and engage the home invader.
And how about those times when someone forgets to lock the door and a home invader can slip inside your home undetected? Unless your floor creaks and gives them away, they could literally be on top of you before you realize what is happening.
If you are not going to have a handgun in a holster on your hip inside your home, at least double check that all doors are locked.
An elderly lady living less than 400 yards from my home was recently victimized for the second time by a home invasion while she was there. Happened during the day on a Saturday. I carry at home and so does my wife. I wish I was closer to my poor neighbor, but she is just far enough away that I can’t see anything suspicious happening at her place.
Elderly folks can shoot too, Why isn’t she armed? Scared of guns, maybe not so much now, as before.
majority of home burglaries and invasions occur during daytime hours. Specifically, 7 am β 2 pm.
I find the time of day surprising. Rather early in the day for the lazy thieving POS. Is the logic – wakes up and realizes out of pot for the day, no cash, runs to make a with drawl at the neighbors house so can meet the local dealer when he is gets up a 2pm?
Pot not so much.Meth and heroin more like, around here anyway, and I suspect elsewhere. Meth is a scourge on the west coast, and heroin is fast catching on for the Oxycontin crowd. The most common crime in my small town is burglaries, whether by amateurs or ex-cons, who need to score hard drugs. They usually don’t get up and moving until noon or so, so the early afternoon is a very popular time for break-ins.
Same in this area, with the resulting fallout in stupid and violent incidents at night and in the wee hours. We’re seeing an increase in the smack use out in the rural villages east of here, which really sucks. And the meth production is almost always the one-pot method in somebody’s disgusting kitchen.
We’ve had two B&E’s in the immediate ‘hood this past summer; local kids kicked in the front glass doors of the gas station/store around the corner and made off with ciggies and beer, dropping a pack of Marlboros in our back yard as they fled one night. They also tried to bust in across the street at my fellow ‘Nam vet’s house while he and his wife were asleep; they woke up and chased ’em off, no weapons involved. Since then I’ve put in solar motion-detector floods and fencing. Next step, with wife on board, are steel doors and reinforced frames with deadbolts.
One would think there’d be a strong market for steel-framed residential doors. Immune to kick ins.
Indeed, one would think. Even the missus is on board with steel doors now, having seen enough local stories about our own regional dope creeps, mostly smash and grab.
And I just got a WP error mss. that I was posting too fast and to slow down. Geez. Never saw that before.
Then, having just posted, another error that it was too late to edit (fix a typo). Yikes.
No, the time of day is because in many homes no one is home during those hours, and the likelihood of getting caught is smaller. Most people that break into homes aren’t looking for violent confrontation, they are looking for items to steal
Okay, question for those who prefer concealed carry; how do you CC while [push]mowing the lawn without printing or your shirt riding up? Do you use your standard EDC, switch to a pocket pistol, or what? Do you only wear egregiously large, dark colored t-shirts? Obviously open carry would negate this concern, but I’m not currently interested in openly carrying.
Pocket carry prevents chaffing and printing (and having your gun and holster soaked in sweat). My pocket carry is 7+1 in 9mm.
I appreciate the response. That’s another reason I need to go out and buy a G43 or XD-S.
My property, I can carry as I wish or not. I don’t live in a socialist compound.
EZ-fanny pack. Mowing the lawn doesn’t require a high fashion choice. MAN that dude is LARGE…
This is where a risk analysis comes into play. Everyone has to look at their situation and determine for themselves what is reasonable. I thought this out a long time ago. I have a 10 foot wall that surrounds my house and a fairly good safe room. A determined criminal can get in, but not without giving me more than enough time to retreat to the safe room and arm up to repel your average gang of thugs. Now, if it is a crack team of Navy Seals or Army Delta Force who just HAHO’d from 30k feet, I may need to home carry, but in that case, I will probably just invite them in and let them take all my beer. π
Your thinking is correct; I have long thought in these terms. The first thing to do is to raise the barrier of your perimeter as high as you can. Alas, the best I think most of us can do is to harden our doors quite a bit and put bars or plexiglas over our windows. This would cost a thousand dollars or so.
But, where does some such investment get you? It’s probably enough to deter 7/8’ths of intruders; but, not the final 1/8’th. And, if you don’t have the money or inclination to raise your barriers that high, you might deter only 3/4 or 1/2 or 1/3 of the potential intruder community.
My conclusion is that – for most people – it’s necessary to raise these barriers as high as you can afford and then include Masseurs. Smith & Wesson in your welcoming committee.
Good summary of the potential situation.
We’ve got entangling shrubs and trees on one side, fencing on two sides, and currently, a wide-open front, as this house, being nearly 200 years old, was built very close to the 200-year-old road. I’m working on that situation. And truth be told, the lights and fencing are no serious deterrent to hardcore invaders, merely delaying, if that. So it’s a work in progress and…
I’ve got a nice welcoming committee here, thanks to the aforementioned Mssrs. Smith & Wesson, Mr. Charlie Zulu, Mr. Ruger, Mr. Remington, and Mr. Mossberg.
It’s Charlie AND Zulu. π
“Well we’re not gonna let you get away with it.”
“Who’s we?”
“Me, Charlie, and Zulu. Don’t let the name fool you, Zulu is European.”
Hah, good one!
I really like the P09 a LOT. Knew jack about it until I got on this site a while back.
I’m more old school, Moravian Steel framed CZ-75s. OK, the RAMI is aluminum. I wish it were steel, a bit more weight to me is a good thing in a subcompact. I’d buy a tungsten frame if I could.
(The P-09/07 feels wrong in my hands; but obviously everyone is different and from eveyrthing I’ve heard, they’re damn good guns, especially for that price.)
I’d prefer steel, too, but got used to the 09 and it fits my hands very well. Kinda hard to find after-market stuff for it, but that’s OK.
“home invaders snuck in completely unbeknownst to her…”
One dog, any breed, would have prevented that.
From the looks of the guy kicking that door, I need a bigger gun.
Agreed. Put down the .380 and pick up the .40 cal.
Or maybe a 40mm Bofors would be a better choice!
Although I hip carry a 1911 in .38 Super i am never without my pocket .380. Check out the attached vid.
.380 with Blackhills ammo starts at 3:57 on vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_i3-ee110&feature=youtu.be
It’s a posed photo. The guy kicking the door spends too much time in the gym to be involved in crime.
The perps I see in my area are sucked up tweakers. They turn sideways and stick their tongues out they look like zippers. You can shoot thru them with a pellet gun. As to why I carry concealed at home. Bay area California. Answer a door displaying a gun here and you risk being swatted.
“The perps I see in my area are sucked up tweakers. They turn sideways and stick their tongues out they look like zippers”
Yep. They busted a meth lab a block from my house, the perps looked like famine victims. Pretty sure I could just throw a couple cartridges at them and knock them over.
Just yesterday my neighbor was telling me how his wife caught someone trying to break into the house between his and mine. I guess I have a reputation in the neighborhood because he said “yeah, I’d like to see him try and break into the house just one more down”. I am fortunate because I work nights, and am home all day during the peak home invasion hours.
But in regards to home carry, the first thing I do after waking up in putting my EDC in it’s holster.
Thanks to the urgings on this website, I have started carrying at home at all times. I have an old .380. Yes it is old style and yes it is a bit heavy. But I can wear it easily. It goes bang everytime. It hits where I point it. It might not drop that guy at the door but it will change the fight odds immediately.
After I am elected I will be wearing a sidearm on my thigh. Thanks for your vote, pass the word. mrpresident2016.com
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